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Jul 8, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger

Call to ban smoking from shopping spots

Full story: Dominion Post

SMOKE ZONE: Researchers found an average 70 per cent more dangerous fine particles in the air when standing at an average distance of 2.6 metres from the smoker.

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Since: Jun 12

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More B.S. .........anything to get your attention fake.

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My God there is bloody dufus in the air another HUH needs a transfusion.
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One more step on New Zealand's path to being smoke-free by 2025. The science is in place, so all they need do is bring the public perception in line with fact.

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I cant wait till theres a nationwide ban. Bring it on.

I don't want my kids smoking, and I think it will save a HELL of a lot of part Maori's lives more than most too.

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Please tell me why it would take that long to become a smokefree country? When all it takes really is passing a bill for prohibition.(and yes the complicated processes involved)
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Job well done guys, quality information.
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Hugh Jass

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Erana Monika wrote:
Please tell me why it would take that long to become a smokefree country? When all it takes really is passing a bill for prohibition.(and yes the complicated processes involved)
An abrupt and immediate ouster of the industry would win my personal applause, but I believe these are some of the reasons for the long-range plan.

Taxes are likely one element. While I believe that a tobacco-free society would be cheaper to run, budgets and bureaucracies probably need restructured to adjust for where the money comes in and goes out.

Another element is the plight of the addicted if tobacco suddenly became inaccessible.

Addicts also impact decision-making more directly, as members of the deliberative assembly and/or as people close to those members.

Reducing nicotine addiction in the country is sort of analogous to the individual's "tapering off" approach to quitting. The more people who quite before the industry gets the heave-ho, the less problem addiction will cause. Each of the small steps between now and 2025 will/should help with that reduction.

If people know that smoking will not be permitted a decade from now, there is one more reason to avoid acquiring the addiction as well, which should help to reduce the prevalence even more.
Hugh Jass Jr

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Hugh Jass wrote:
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An abrupt and immediate ouster of the industry would win my personal applause, but I believe these are some of the reasons for the long-range plan.
Taxes are likely one element. While I believe that a tobacco-free society would be cheaper to run, budgets and bureaucracies probably need restructured to adjust for where the money comes in and goes out.
Another element is the plight of the addicted if tobacco suddenly became inaccessible.
Addicts also impact decision-making more directly, as members of the deliberative assembly and/or as people close to those members.
Reducing nicotine addiction in the country is sort of analogous to the individual's "tapering off" approach to quitting. The more people who quite before the industry gets the heave-ho, the less problem addiction will cause. Each of the small steps between now and 2025 will/should help with that reduction.
If people know that smoking will not be permitted a decade from now, there is one more reason to avoid acquiring the addiction as well, which should help to reduce the prevalence even more.
Sounds a lot like the movements overall plan in 1990 "Reduce smoking rate to 10% by 2000" then in 2000 when the rate was still 24%- the goal became "reduce the rate to 10% by 2010" then in 2010 when the rate was still 22%- "The best laid plans of mice and men"

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Yes In my "opinion" that gives far too much time for the tobbacco industry to formulate a plan; to possibly liaise with "lawmakers". To come up with another 12 1/2 years to save their industry...
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Erana Monika wrote:
Yes In my "opinion" that gives far too much time for the tobbacco industry to formulate a plan; to possibly liaise with "lawmakers". To come up with another 12 1/2 years to save their industry...
MYOFB.

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<quoted text>MYOFB.
MYOFB! You're in mine! Don't ever talk to me again you will be ignored. Goodbye.
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Yeah wrote:
<quoted text> i'm Ken the Kweer and i eat nothing but stool samples. i'm gay and lash out indiscriminately.
Now those are certainly facts.
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Hugh Jass says: "Another element is the plight of the addicted if tobacco suddenly became inaccessible."

They would just Grow their own, in hidden fields and hydroponicly in homes - just like most of the "Weed" in the US is grown now.- don't try to delude yourself - it would just become a HUGE "Black Market" commodity - and smoking would continue.

Hugh Jass says: "Reducing nicotine addiction in the country is sort of analogous to the individual's "tapering off" approach to quitting."

NOT EVEN CLOSE - HUGE - you are comparing "coersion" with an indivuals "personal decision"

If the anti-smokers had stuck with the TRUTH and PERSUADED smokers to quit , it would have been a GOOD thing - but instead you had to resort to outright LIES, and "extremely questionable" legal maneuvers, to try to FORCE your view of how the world should look.

It WILL come back to haunt you.
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Hugh Jass says: "Another element is the plight of the addicted if tobacco suddenly became inaccessible."
They would just Grow their own, in hidden fields and hydroponicly in homes - just like most of the "Weed" in the US is grown now.- don't try to delude yourself - it would just become a HUGE "Black Market" commodity - and smoking would continue.
Hugh Jass says: "Reducing nicotine addiction in the country is sort of analogous to the individual's "tapering off" approach to quitting."
NOT EVEN CLOSE - HUGE - you are comparing "coersion" with an indivuals "personal decision"
If the anti-smokers had stuck with the TRUTH and PERSUADED smokers to quit , it would have been a GOOD thing - but instead you had to resort to outright LIES, and "extremely questionable" legal maneuvers, to try to FORCE your view of how the world should look.
It WILL come back to haunt you.
Do you really have a Hugh Jass?
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No - But Dad does!!
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No - But Dad does!!
The original Hugh Jass is your father?
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The original Hugh Jass is your father?
--DUH!!

You guys ARE getting dimmer by the moment!

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Is you Dad providing a good life for you seeling his new game smoke smoke smoke smoke smoke smoke smoke !
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Hugh Jass Jr wrote:
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Sounds a lot like the movements overall plan in 1990 "Reduce smoking rate to 10% by 2000" then in 2000 when the rate was still 24%- the goal became "reduce the rate to 10% by 2010" then in 2010 when the rate was still 22%- "The best laid plans of mice and men"
I believe you will find that--if there is any foundation for that at all--"the movement" would be a US group, right? The thing is, here we are talking about a national government committed to making smoking ILLEGAL by a set year. Partisan politics might derail that, but it is an entirely different goal.
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Hugh Jass says: "Another element is the plight of the addicted if tobacco suddenly became inaccessible."
They would just Grow their own, in hidden fields and hydroponicly in homes - just like most of the "Weed" in the US is grown now.- don't try to delude yourself - it would just become a HUGE "Black Market" commodity - and smoking would continue.
Sure they would. In droves they would be clandestinely torching up home-grown ciggies twenty-to-fifty times a day, for five to twenty minutes at a shot, and NO ONE WOULD NOTICE!
Right. HUGE black market potential in cigarettes and smoking.
By the way, if you are in the market for a good bridge, I can get you one wholesale...

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