'Moorish revival'

Jul 22, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: BBC Europe Edition

A thousand years ago North African Muslims ruled southern Spain. Now some of their descendants are contributing to a "Moorish revival" that is regenerating parts of Andalucia, says the BBC's Sylvia Smith.

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Jul 24, 2010
 
Very Politically Correct Story!!!

A lot of FACTS missed out there.

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It's good to see that Spaniards are getting in touch with their North African Moorish roots, there's not shame in that.

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Aug 17, 2010
 
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It's good to see that Spaniards are getting in touch with their North African Moorish roots, there's not shame in that.
Right, becuase most Spaniards are of North Africa origins..*rolls eyes. First of all, the moorish muslims were expulsed and many parts of Spain were resettled by Spaniards from the North along with Europeans from other countries. That's not to say there is no moorish blood in the south of Spain. There is. But it does not dominate their ancestry. They are still genetically closest to adajacent European nations. Also the article is misleading beacuse in many areas of Spain there is a lot racism against North Africans and Arabs.

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Garrig wrote:
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Right, becuase most Spaniards are of North Africa origins..*rolls eyes. First of all, the moorish muslims were expulsed and many parts of Spain were resettled by Spaniards from the North along with Europeans from other countries. That's not to say there is no moorish blood in the south of Spain. There is. But it does not dominate their ancestry. They are still genetically closest to adajacent European nations. Also the article is misleading beacuse in many areas of Spain there is a lot racism against North Africans and Arabs.
Okay true many were expelled but not before eternally leaving their genetic signature in the gene pool in the majority of Spaniards.

Also we can't forget that even the Iberians themselves were said to be short, stocky, brown people who most likely originate from North Africa; and these are supposed to be Spains natives, the same natives that give Spain it's Iberian Peninsula name.

Spaniards are some of the most genetically African people of Europe.

There's no distinguishing Southern Spaniards from North Africans.

Only the Northern Galicia region of Spain is pure.

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Okay true many were expelled but not before eternally leaving their genetic signature in the gene pool in the majority of Spaniards.
Also we can't forget that even the Iberians themselves were said to be short, stocky, brown people who most likely originate from North Africa; and these are supposed to be Spains natives, the same natives that give Spain it's Iberian Peninsula name.
Spaniards are some of the most genetically African people of Europe.
There's no distinguishing Southern Spaniards from North Africans.
Only the Northern Galicia region of Spain is pure.
North African genes are not in the majority of the Spanish gene pool. People have alway exagerrated this.

"A number of studies focus on the genetic impact of the centuries of Muslim rule in the Iberian peninsula on the genetic make up of the modern Iberian population. Iberia has (with Sicily) with the greatest presence of the typically Northwest African Y-chromosome haplotype marker E-M81 in Europe.[38][39] and Haplotype Va.[40] A thorough Y-chromosome analysis of the Iberian peninsula reveals that haplotype E-M81 surpasses frequencies of 10% in Southern Iberia.[41] As for Mtdna analysis (Mitochondrial DNA), although present at only low levels, Iberia has much higher frequencies of typically North African Haplogroup U6 than those generally observed in Europe.[42][42][43][43][44][45 ] It is difficult to ascertain that U6's presence is the consequence of Islam's expansion into Europe during the Middle Ages.[44]

A wide ranging study (published 2007) using 6,501 unrelated Y-chromosome samples from 81 populations found that: "Considering both these E-M78 sub-haplogroups (E-V12, E-V22, E-V65) and the E-M81 haplogroup, the contribution of northern African lineages to the entire male gene pool of Iberia is 5.6%."[46]
"Overall, a European wide study including Spaniards states: No significant correlation is apparent between North African admixture and geography. Genetic exchanges across the Mediterranean Sea, and especially in its western-most part where the geographic distance between continents is smallest (Spain), seem to have been limited or very limited, establishing the North African contribution at 2.5% to 3.4%"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_people

I don't know where the Iberians originate from but they eventually spread over much of western Europe and were among the first settlers in Britain. Genetic signatures in the British Isles bear this out. Spain also has the highest concentration of R1b which is predominant over Western Europe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:R1bmap.JPG

Spain was not just settled by Iberians but by Celts and Germanic peoples who STAYED. MOST of the the moors were expelled and not a few settled in France which was also invaded by the Moors to a lesser extent.
Also who were the Moors really? They were mostly Berbers with some Arabs and Blacks and some captured Slavic and Frankish slaves. The Berbers are mostly of European Cro Magnon origin who feld to North Africa during the Ice Age some are even blond with light eyes! Here is a berber couple with their daughter.

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/09_04/n...

And you say only the Galicians are pure? With Spain having seen the settlement of Greeks, Poenicians, Celts, Romans, Visigoths, Suevi, Moors etc. Who the hell is pure?? Do you think the French are pure?? Lol.
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those muslims are illegal inmigrants from marocco, their not spaniards. Spain for spaniards, muslim out of christians lands!!!!
The 90% the crime incidents in the basque country are from muslims please.
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Basque_spaniards wrote:
those muslims are illegal inmigrants from marocco, their not spaniards. Spain for spaniards, muslim out of christians lands!!!!
The 90% the crime incidents in the basque country are from muslims please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Those Latinos are illegal immigrants from Mexico who cross the U.S borders everyday!
98% of the crimes and drugs gangs are from Spanish speakers!
All Spanish speakers get out from USA the land of industry, and go back to your backward country.
Also get out from Andalucia you occupiers. Andalucia is NOT Spain!
Free Andalucia.. Long live Andalucian people all of their ancestries ( Arabs, Berbers, Christians, Muslims, Gypsy..etc)
Spanish out from Al-Andalus. Also get out from Cueta & Melilla (The Moroccoan territories)
You destroyed everything!
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Jan 15, 2014
 
The Andalusians are good people, and their great ancestries built the greatest civilization in Iberia!
God bless you Andalusian Moors, we love you, and we wish you the best!

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