Black churchgoers break with leading Democrats on marriage amendment

DNF wrote:

<quoted text>Maybe he should test his faith with a rattlesnake like that Pastor in NC did. The snake won!

Praiz!

Abdurratln wrote:

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And, I have no "gay friends". As soon as person shiows me his sexuality be he "gay" trisexual or whatever, I get away from them as far as possible. Nobody wants to be bother with sexulaity issues 25-7, except obvious perverts, be they "gay" or whatever.

Bullshiite. You smother women and deny them humanity because MEN cannot stop assaulting, raping and persecuting women in the trash dumps of the world that allow Religion the same weight as Law. You're all about sexuality and your obscene obsession with controlling it in others.

I Hate Syracuse wrote:

<quoted text>Are my 3 gay sisters acquaintances too? One of them agrees with my position...

I love myself and my wife of 12 years. I just know a frosted dog turd is still a dog turd. You can mouth all the softeners you like but you and your ilk believe Gays and Lesbians are going to hell.

I hardly trust you to deliver the full truth of a Lesbian opinion.

If the black population knew the truth about how most people feel about them they wouldn't have a tie to the Democrats anymore. They are used by the Dem Party and respected as individuals by the Repub Party.

lndychick wrote:

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I love myself and my wife of 12 years. I just know a frosted dog turd is still a dog turd. You can mouth all the softeners you like but you and your ilk believe Gays and Lesbians are going to hell.
I hardly trust you to deliver the full truth of a Lesbian opinion.

Again, I do not need you to speak for me! I never said gays were going to hell. Ever. Clearly, you are still self-hating... Wife? sure....

Carolyn wrote:

If the black population knew the truth about how most people feel about them they wouldn't have a tie to the Democrats anymore. They are used by the Dem Party and respected as individuals by the Repub Party.

Amen! As long as the democrats use government programs as bribes, you will continue to have liberals, poor, and un-educated people as their flock. Make them self reliant would not be in the best interest of the democratic party.

Abdurratln wrote:

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Your aunt must have been a 16 year old h-word. Right?

She was a CHILD, but I guess you wouldn't understand that in context since you're a Muslim.

Brian_G wrote:

<quoted text>Gender segregation marriage law creates new intrusive government regulation around marriage, new wasteful government spending and job killing mandates for entitlements to same sex dependent beneficiaries and higher taxes to pay for it all. Same sex marriage is bigger government intruding into all our families.

Bullsht!

Abdurratln wrote:

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You are an idiot and queer one at that.

I don't take my assessments of self from strangers who act like vomit plugged up a donkey's gaping asshole, so please, don't try to tell me things that only make you look completely stupid, and I mean that. You're trying to troll; I am actually telling you that you come off as stupid, but don't let me stop there: I will explain exactly why.

Abdurratln wrote:

But, I like your abuse of the white man's English.

People online -- with a disturbing and amusing frequency -- attempt to attack the actual *sentence structure* of others. This is a very, very stupid thing to do with me, because I instantaneously know that it is a complete lie. I have no trouble knowing that you are lying through your teeth, which means you failed. But this wasn't your biggest failure. Read on.

Abdurratln wrote:

And I especially like your almost dislike of KKKlinton. Maybe gays ain't all bad afterall.

You somehow magically know my political affiliations and my orientation *via posts on a public message board*? I am a complete stranger to you. Are you out of your goddamn mind? Do *you* think you sound intelligent for making a string of assumptions you've ripped out of your own anus?

Seriously.

Abdurratln wrote:

And what you said can all be applied to the current house slave in the White House. All you need to do is replace "gay" with Black to make it relevant. Obama is just too pussified when it comes to Black/Africn interests. Like KKKlinton, he takes black votes for granted. And you would expect better than that from the historic "first black president". If he does not deliver in 6 months by Election Day, I think it would be fair to kick the hosue slave out of the White House. If we do that much only, I am sure that Mit Romney will not be fool enough to bomb Africa again. Is that too much of a price to pay to keep every idiot and his white mama from killing us? If he brings Qaddafi back to life, I promise y'all, I will vote to re-elect him.

This sounded odd and rambling and I will leave you with it.

Brian_G wrote:

<quoted text>I'm saying neither of those things, if the left had to run on the truth, they'd never get power.
I'm saying all of the vitriol comes from the left, much of it is directed at gays and I'm saying, all the hate should stop. Things could get worse, that's why I like marriage as is.

Everything you have said here is meaningless, and I shrug and move on. You have made no impression except for a single very, very bad one.

"all of the vitriol comes from the left" <-- Your words, above.

Absolutely nothing about what you have said retains the slightest credibility or shows you to have the slightest ability to be trusted if you are sitting there, hoping against hope to convince a stranger on a message board that the "right" are polite angels who never, never, never engage in vitriol while 100.00%(one hundred percent) of the vitriol comes solely from the "left," and from no one else.

This is claptrap so seriously senseless and laughable that I simply shrug and *ignore you*, since you obviously cannot have a discussion on a level above that of the goddamn six-year-old.

What were you thinking when you attempted to tell me that ONE side of the political spectrum is vitriolic while the other supposedly "never" is? I cannot imagine what you hoped to achieve with a lie so mind-boggling that it basically means this conversation is over unless you can grow up fast as hell.

Thanks for reading.

Dr Saiuz wrote:

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The only thing you have proven is that you lack critical thinking abilities

At this point in the conversation, your having conceded *zero* of the points I have made, I am confident in a way that would (probably) infuriate you that you are exceptionally stupid while I am exceptionally intelligent.

There is nothing you can do about this, because you are *behaving like a puppet* who proves my points to me repetitively. You prove them to me as fast as I can make them.

Dr Saiuz wrote:

and basic reading comprehension skills.

See above. You have only *firmly* convinced me that I am speaking to someone genuinely spineless. If I call you stupid and you had to make a statement publicly about your level of intelligence, you would deny your stupidity. That leaves me to presume you're spineless for your inability to admit the points I have made.

Dr Saiuz wrote:

I blame the government schools and teachers unions.
Fact: "As of May 2012, with the passing of North Carolina's gay marriage ban, 12 states prohibit same-sex marriage via statute and 30 via the state's constitution."
30 + 12 = 42
42 is 84% of 50.
Have a gay day!

1. The state votes are based in lies and misinformation. Because you repeatedly champion those state votes, I could conclude *in a court of law* that you possess no moral code. Lying does not bother you if it is in service of abusing a group of people. I wonder why the antigay bristle at being called Nazis; you behave so very like them. They had no moral code and they committed murders I have no doubt some of you would commit if you could: See at least two preachers this week in the national news who have advocated *the literal death* of gay people.

2. There is nothing anyone like you can do about the existence of gay people. The *more* you put them down, the *more* they are going to scream and make themselves very visible. I challenge you, nose to nose, to silence them. I *dare* you to attempt it. Report back to me in one year (365 days) and show me whether you have silenced gay people nationwide, in the United States of America, or have stopped them from a ceaseless drive to attempt to gain rights which are theirs, absolutely, no matter what anyone antigay says. I *dare* you to tell me you would win an attempt to silence them when Lawrence v. Texas will not be reversed and you have *no* recourse to make them silent or invisible by *any* way other than abusing their families and their children.

Then ask yourself if I would listen to an assessment of myself from someone I have just described: namely, you.

In other words, would you trust your children to be looked after by a murderer?

I think that question illustrates (by metaphor; not literally) what I think of you. If I find you stupid, selfish, manipulative, hard-headed, uneducated, stubborn, spineless and hateful, ask yourself which is larger in my mind:

1. concern for what you think; or

2. a conviction that you are little different from a sociopath.

I think I've made myself really, really clear.

Some of these people may be paying lip service. I *actually believe* that people like you are absolute and utter scumbuckets. But please, reply to me again *and feel free to add to* my conviction that you have no worth as a human being.

Quite literally none.

I doubt you're gonna be changing my mind, champ.

Dr Saiuz wrote:

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LMFAO,

So-called "laughter" online is rarely truthful; it is far more often manipulative and false.

Dr Saiuz wrote:

there is not a chance in the world of that happening.

Not to mention you're trying to convince another poster that you are an "oracle" who can predict the future.

Dr Saiuz wrote:

More evidence that progressives live in a Huff Post/Kos fantasy bubble.

Yet you supposedly live in "reality" while you have been in exchanges with me that make you look (literally) like a dumbass and me like someone who manages to bring up every point you *cannot* refute -- and so you *don't* refute them; the record shows that you *do not* refute what I say but attempt to establish a "hegemony" you don't have, because what is the *reality and truth* is something the antigay (like you) can do nothing about.

So "sorry"; was I rubbing it in again? I can't resist.

I cannot resist reiterating what anyone on this board knows you can do *nothing* about -- because it's the *most important* thing the antigay like you WISH you could change.

It's written all over every last lie you ever tell about gay people whom you seem to have a really difficult time shutting up, not to mention the pro-gay. Believe me, I am enjoying that because the right they exercise to infuriate people like you is enshrined *in the very first amendment to the United States constitution*, and was only strengthened with a little ruling known as:

Lawrence

versus

Texas.

Thanks for reading.

In the final analysis, and I can rub this in all day long and all year long, the antigay want to *silence* gay and pro-gay people and to make them *invisible*. It is their greatest wish and it is the one thing that they know would resolve THEIR PROBLEM with gay people, which is now their visibility -- because their visibility is what is making the antigay lose these battles.

It is the one thing no antigay person will ever admit is their #1 goal, aside from rumblings about "recriminalizing" so-called "gay behavior" -- which is not gonna happen, end of discussion, and we all know it.

And it is the one thing they will *never be able* to achieve by any means whatsoever.

I have told the gay and the pro-gay again and again, it is finally time to just start rubbing it in their faces and being as public as possible. It infuriates them to apoplexy and is the best dose of their own medicine you could possibly spit back into their faces.

It's beyond time. And I am loving every minute of it.

-0h-Really - wrote:

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I'll be quoting this,....just so you know.

If you are quoting it in support of the pro-gay, then you understand the context in which I said it. Above, I only JUST realized that that poster was attempting to "rub it in" to the pro-gay about the state votes. It only just struck me forcibly when I last visited this thread.

If you are quoting this in support of antigay sentiment, I know you know for a fact that you are only fanning the flames and further engendering headlong, vicious hatred. In fact, you would have no reason in the world to claim you were quoting *what I had said in the spirit in which I had said it*, since the pro-gay are fighting for the rights of red-blooded Americans and the antigay are not.

Thought I'd make that glaringly and perfectly clear on a public message board so that there could be *no mistake* about what you were attempting to do with my words ...

... just so you know.

Thanks for reading.

emperorjohn wrote:

Bullsht!

Most gender segregation marriage supporters ask, "How does same sex marriage affect you?" and then ignore the answers.

Gender segregation marriage creates new marriage regulation; in Boston it has shut down adoption providers like Catholic Charities, in the UK, civil unions has created new PC speech codes. How doesn't same sex marriage harm society?

Jose - in Miami wrote:

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Having been in the Army and over-seas. IMO Muslims and Christians are the only two who try to impose their ideology on the world .
PHCK both of them . Irony is that both are owned by extremist nuts who never practice what they preach and only use it to spread hate and misery.
Neither group is capable of leaving the world alone.
Southern evangelicals are as far removed from the God they claim to follow as Islamic extremists.
Difference is the evangelical is usually bit more PC and media savy but same mind set.

I urge you to read, "The Fundamentalist Agenda".

"The most famous definition of fundamentalism is H. L. Mencken's: a terrible, pervasive fear that someone, somewhere, is having fun. There's something to this. Fundamentalism is too fearful, too restrictive, too lacking in faith to provide a home for the human spirit to soar or for human societies to blossom."

http://www.uuworld.org/2004/01/feature2.html

From 1988 to 1993, the American Academy of Arts and Sciences sponsored an interdisciplinary study known as The Fundamentalism Project, the largest such study ever done. More than 100 scholars from all over the world took part, reporting on every imaginable kind of fundamentalism. And what they discovered was that the agenda of all fundamentalist movements in the world is virtually identical, regardless of religion or culture.

They identified five characteristics shared by virtually all fundamentalisms.

http://www.uuworld.org/2004/01/feature2.html

DNF wrote:

From 1988 to 1993, the American Academy of Arts and Sciences sponsored an interdisciplinary study known as The Fundamentalism Project, the largest such study ever done. More than 100 scholars from all over the world took part, reporting on every imaginable kind of fundamentalism. And what they discovered was that the agenda of all fundamentalist movements in the world is virtually identical, regardless of religion or culture.
They identified five characteristics shared by virtually all fundamentalisms.
http://www.uuworld.org/2004/01/feature2.html

Yeah; what they say about gay rights is self-referential. Everything they say about gay rights is true about THEM (the "religious" zealots). They are trying to jam and punch and bash their views down others' throats; that is why I bat their views aside on a constant basis. They *hate* your freedom to live as you see fit; you should be jamming it down their throats at every opportunity. It absolutely enrages them and makes them lose faith in humanity. They deserve it all too richly.

I Hate Syracuse wrote:

<quoted text>Again, I do not need you to speak for me! I never said gays were going to hell. Ever. Clearly, you are still self-hating... Wife? sure....

Why are you dancing around your religious truth? God don't like a lukewarm Christian. There's even a verse or two about that.

So either you agree that your bible says that unrepentant same sex lovers are going to hell or you're a lukewarm xstain.

Kip wrote:

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She was a CHILD, but I guess you wouldn't understand that in context since you're a Muslim.

You should teach such children as her not to be h-words such as you described.