Tongan Queen Mother absent from royal wedding

Jul 12, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Stuff.co.nz

Two prominent members of the Tongan royal family were reportedly absent from the wedding ceremony of the Crown Prince and his second cousin in the capital Nuku'alofa today.

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capt-ntf

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Are there infighting among the royal family?
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Like all families, there's always going to be "disagreements".
Can you check with the palace office? I'm in Tonga and I know there's no fighting, just disagreements with the wedding.... but you know what? It has nothing to do with us because I still get paid for my job and my family are still enjoying their lives.
Have a great week-end Captain.
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Like all families, there's always going to be "disagreements".
Can you check with the palace office? I'm in Tonga and I know there's no fighting, just disagreements with the wedding.... but you know what? It has nothing to do with us because I still get paid for my job and my family are still enjoying their lives.
Have a great week-end Captain.
Malo lelei "Niu" I have a great respect for the royal household and for the Tongan people, have a beautiful week end with your family.
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Malo lelei "Niu" I have a great respect for the royal household and for the Tongan people, have a beautiful week end with your family.
Aye aye captain
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Niu 'oku 'iai pe totonu 'a e Queen mother ke tala hono loto he 'oku ne kei mo'ui pea kapau na'e fakaongoongo e kau teke mui ko'ena he mali pea 'e toe fakamafana ange.... KUo 'ikai 'ilo 'ehe kuini 'e a'u ki ha 'aho pehe kuo takoto fakataha pe hono fanga mokopuna pea ko hai ia 'e ta'e loto mamahi... Oku ou tui ne mei fakamafana ange kapau ne nau fai e loto 'oe kuini he 'oku ne kei laumalie lelei pe....
Kaekehe ko e lelei taha pe 'ena a Tupou 6 mo hono hoa moe famili ka kuo 'ikai ke fakamafana he 'ikai ke kakato kiai e fale 'o e Tu'i pea moe fonua foki...Kuo mavae 2 a Ha'avakatolo he ko e fanau tama 'a "Ahome'e kuo 'ikai toe lau e vei tapui... Fefe kapau ne kei laumalie 'a Tupou 4 mo e Tu'i Pelehake???? Hei'ilo?????

Faka'apa'apa lahi ki he ta'ahine KUini fehuhu he tu'uaki 'e ne fakakaukau ki he ma'uma'u luta hono famili mo hono fanga mokopuna....
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Niu 'oku 'iai pe totonu 'a e Queen mother ke tala hono loto he 'oku ne kei mo'ui pea kapau na'e fakaongoongo e kau teke mui ko'ena he mali pea 'e toe fakamafana ange.... KUo 'ikai 'ilo 'ehe kuini 'e a'u ki ha 'aho pehe kuo takoto fakataha pe hono fanga mokopuna pea ko hai ia 'e ta'e loto mamahi... Oku ou tui ne mei fakamafana ange kapau ne nau fai e loto 'oe kuini he 'oku ne kei laumalie lelei pe....
Kaekehe ko e lelei taha pe 'ena a Tupou 6 mo hono hoa moe famili ka kuo 'ikai ke fakamafana he 'ikai ke kakato kiai e fale 'o e Tu'i pea moe fonua foki...Kuo mavae 2 a Ha'avakatolo he ko e fanau tama 'a "Ahome'e kuo 'ikai toe lau e vei tapui... Fefe kapau ne kei laumalie 'a Tupou 4 mo e Tu'i Pelehake???? Hei'ilo?????
Faka'apa'apa lahi ki he ta'ahine KUini fehuhu he tu'uaki 'e ne fakakaukau ki he ma'uma'u luta hono famili mo hono fanga mokopuna....
What I meant was everyone has the right to the way they feel, but we don't have anything to do with it.
Ko e me'a pe ia 'a e famili ko ia.
Of course the Queen Mother has every right to the way she feels, ka ko e me'a pe ia 'anautolu.
i don't think we have the right to judge them.
That's all.
Great week-end everyone!
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well oku fuu Hippocratic aupito e kuini fehuhu he me'a koia he naa ne allow pe ene son ke mali mo hono second cousin, koe ha e ongo a kuini salote mo hono tuonga'ane he mali koia....why is she disagreeing with it now??? koe'uhi pe koe hoko ki hono lotofale.....i think she should of opposed her son's marriage to the present queen at the time as a parent....right now its her son and daughter inlaw(king and queen)decision it's their child......thats my view but at the same time i do not think its any of my business but as this is a public forum im just freely voicing my opinion
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**hypocritical not hippo hoi
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Oku mahino pe 'a e talanoa ia 'o Nanasi pea mo Ata he neongo koe tuonga'ane 'o Kuini ka na'a na tamai taha pe.. Na'e fa'ee kehe 'a Vilai pea ko hai na'a ne 'ilo na'a 'oku tamai kehe pe koaa moia ...

KO 'eni ne mahino mata'a'aa 'aupito pe koe mokopuna 'eni 'o Kalo pea Halaevalu e taha... Mokopuna 'o Taufa'ahau Tupou 4 pea taha 'o Tu'i Pelehake... Koe vaofi ia koee 'o 'ena tu'u ne hange ai 'oku mahei e fonua pe tenau kau ki fe... Hange koe fakaoli 'oku takai holo koe mali pe 'eni ia 'a Houma m Ma'ufanga...

Lolotonga e kei laumalie 'a e Kuini ne tonu ke 'oange hano faingamalie ke tali 'ene fakakaukau he ko hono toto... Tuku 'a Nanasi ia ki he tafa'aki kae fai e kole 'a e kuini he ko hono mokopuna 'oku teu mali...

Kataki 'oku 'ikai ko ha mamahi noa gutu 'o fuiva ka 'oku lavea e Tonga he 'otu katoanga ni...malie e
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pe koe tuu mei fe ka koe end of the day its second cousins....'a ata mo nanasi. mooni oku kei laumalie kuini fehuhu pea ko hono "mokopuna" oku ikai ko 'ene "tama" tuku matu'a fai honau fatongia me'a pe taahine kuini fehhuhu he me'a'anga koe "kui". kapau oku ikai sai'ia ai let it be oku toe fk'ofa ange mo mahuhu kihe loto e fonua he tau sio atu oku oatu 'ene kole 'o to kelekelea he kuo tukupa 'a nanasi ia ke 'oua tu'u mai fkkau2 e kuini fehuhu mo pilolevu hene fanau

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well oku fuu Hippocratic aupito e kuini fehuhu he me'a koia he naa ne allow pe ene son ke mali mo hono second cousin, koe ha e ongo a kuini salote mo hono tuonga'ane he mali koia....why is she disagreeing with it now??? koe'uhi pe koe hoko ki hono lotofale.....i think she should of opposed her son's marriage to the present queen at the time as a parent....right now its her son and daughter inlaw(king and queen)decision it's their child......thats my view but at the same time i do not think its any of my business but as this is a public forum im just freely voicing my opinion
Koleange !!
Ke mo'oni 'aupito !!! Koe ha ku toe hola ai e kuini fehuhu ????
Kuo tonu ke tuku 'aupito e tauhi tu'i 'a Tonga moe palaku !
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Koleange !!
Ke mo'oni 'aupito !!! Koe ha ku toe hola ai e kuini fehuhu ????
Kuo tonu ke tuku 'aupito e tauhi tu'i 'a Tonga moe palaku !
kuo si'i 'a hono mata 'o sio ki he palaku kae pango he 'oku 'ikai toe lava ia ke tuku, ko e mahaki ia 'oku malohi 'aupito 'oku ui ko e genetic disorder of severe mental retardation.

Kuo 'elo 'aupito 'a Tonga pea sio atu ki he fanga 'ulukovi he omai ke poupou'i e kovi, ko e lau ai pe e lotu loi'elo ka ko hono fua ena koe fai fakafamili.
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well oku fuu Hippocratic aupito e kuini fehuhu he me'a koia he naa ne allow pe ene son ke mali mo hono second cousin, koe ha e ongo a kuini salote mo hono tuonga'ane he mali koia....why is she disagreeing with it now??? koe'uhi pe koe hoko ki hono lotofale.....i think she should of opposed her son's marriage to the present queen at the time as a parent....right now its her son and daughter inlaw(king and queen)decision it's their child......thats my view but at the same time i do not think its any of my business but as this is a public forum im just freely voicing my opinion
Hala ho'o ma'u 'au koia.'Oku 'ikai ha fu'u vaofi fefe fau ia 'o e mali 'a Nanasi mo 'Aho'eitu he ko e fa'ele vao 'a Vilai ia (fa'ele'i tu'utamaki)'o tamai taha mo Kuini Salote. Pea 'oku fehu'ia leva pe na'e DNA e fo'i fa'ele ia koia ke mahino 'oku tamai taha mo Kuini. Ko e tamai taha fa'e taha 'oku e'a pea mahinoo 'a Taufa'ahau mo Ftafehi pea ko e tamai taha fa'e taha 'a Mata'aho mo Kalo Fakafanua. Ko honau ongo mokopuna 'ena 'oku na mali. First cousin 'a 'Ofeina mo Tupou VI (parternal line), first cousin 'a Tupou VI mo Tasi Fakafanua (maternal line).'Ikai ke mou ma hono tufaki he'e media fakamamani lahi 'a e mali 'a e ongo cousin? Pea toe palaku atu kohono tuku mai 'e Barbara Treavor faiongoongo 'a e TV One 'a NZ,'a e 'ikai ha lea Tonga ia ki he cousin he 'oku tau ui pe hotau cousin ko hotau tokoua, tuofefine pe tuonga'ane. Pea 'i he'ene pehee leva, ko e mali eni 'a e tuofefine mo e tuonga'ane (palaku fau atu).

Koleange, ko e ki'i ta'ahine ia ko e laulotaha mo'oni pea to e mahulu mo hono naunau 'oku taau ai ki he taloni. Ko hono pangoo pe ko e fu'u vaofi fau 'a e toto pea mahalo kapau na'e mali mo ha Nopele pea mali leva ha'ane tama ki he talonii,'e ki'i oli ange ia. Manatu ko e fale 'o e Tupou IV mo e fale 'o e Tu'ipelehakee ko e Royal House ia 'o Tonga, pea kuo nau tau ki he langi,'Ikai ha toe sitepu ia kenau kaka kiai ka ko 'enau hifo ki mamani 'o mali ki he fanau 'a e kau Nopele, pe ko e kakai 'o e fonua, pea nau toki kaka mei ai. Kaikehe ko e disagreement koeni hangee ko e lau 'a Niu ko e me'a fakalotofale pe ia 'a e fale 'o Ha'a Moheofo. Ka ko hono pangoo he 'oku totonu kenau hoko ko e taki mo e ta sipinga lelei ki he fonua (role model). He'ikai ha'aku fakaanga ki he ongo 'a e Kuini Fehuhu he 'oku ne kei mo'ui 'o sio ki he toe mali hono mokopuna mo e mokopuna hono tehina. Fua tautau pe au kia au,'eku tutupu hake mo haku ta'okete tamai taha fa'e taha pea toe mali homa ongo mokopuna, talatu 'e tali aipe hoku ui 'oku. Mahalo kapau na'a kuo mole atu 'a e Kuini Fehuhu fakataha mo hono tehina 'o hange ko e mole atu 'a Taufa'ahau mo Fatafehi,'e ki'i ongo ma'ama'a ange.

Kapau na koha mali 'a e Pilinisi Kalauini mo Leanahola 'a Pilinisesi Fusipala, kou tui 'e ki'i fakalumalie ange ia he ko e fo'i laini pe 'e taha 'oku vaofi ai hona famili. Ko 'ene tu'u leva he taimi ni 'e femali'aki pe fanga mokopuna 'o Tupou VI mo e fanga mokopuna 'o Pilolevu mo e fanga mokopuna 'o Ma'atu pea ko e tatau ia 'o e mali na'e toki fai. Ko e ha nai e lau 'a e Lotu faka-kalisitiane pe ko e tapu 'o e nofo faka-famili pe ko e ma'u 'a e saienisi ki he fo'i 'aliaki 'o e mali ko eni?

Tau lotua 'a Tonga mo e fale 'o Tupou ke fakatonua 'enau takii he ko 'ene kele pe 'a e matavai ko 'ene kele ia 'a e vai kotoa.'Ofa atu pea ke mou ma'u ha weekend fiefia mo malu foki.
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<quoted text>Hala ho'o ma'u 'au koia.'Oku 'ikai ha fu'u vaofi fefe fau ia 'o e mali 'a Nanasi mo 'Aho'eitu he ko e fa'ele vao 'a Vilai ia (fa'ele'i tu'utamaki)'o tamai taha mo Kuini Salote. Pea 'oku fehu'ia leva pe na'e DNA e fo'i fa'ele ia koia ke mahino 'oku tamai taha mo Kuini. Ko e tamai taha fa'e taha 'oku e'a pea mahinoo 'a Taufa'ahau mo Ftafehi pea ko e tamai taha fa'e taha 'a Mata'aho mo Kalo Fakafanua. Ko honau ongo mokopuna 'ena 'oku na mali. First cousin 'a 'Ofeina mo Tupou VI (parternal line), first cousin 'a Tupou VI mo Tasi Fakafanua (maternal line).'Ikai ke mou ma hono tufaki he'e media fakamamani lahi 'a e mali 'a e ongo cousin? Pea toe palaku atu kohono tuku mai 'e Barbara Treavor faiongoongo 'a e TV One 'a NZ,'a e 'ikai ha lea Tonga ia ki he cousin he 'oku tau ui pe hotau cousin ko hotau tokoua, tuofefine pe tuonga'ane. Pea 'i he'ene pehee leva, ko e mali eni 'a e tuofefine mo e tuonga'ane (palaku fau atu).
Mo'oni lahi ko e he 'oku palaku ta'e toe 'i ai hano tatau, pea kuo totonu ke tuku a e lotu loi'elo 'a Tonga ka nau fai famili katoa ke nau a'u pea mo tatau mo e tu'i ko ho nau taki.
Koleange, ko e ki'i ta'ahine ia ko e laulotaha mo'oni pea to e mahulu mo hono naunau 'oku taau ai ki he taloni. Ko hono pangoo pe ko e fu'u vaofi fau 'a e toto pea mahalo kapau na'e mali mo ha Nopele pea mali leva ha'ane tama ki he talonii,'e ki'i oli ange ia. Manatu ko e fale 'o e Tupou IV mo e fale 'o e Tu'ipelehakee ko e Royal House ia 'o Tonga, pea kuo nau tau ki he langi,'Ikai ha toe sitepu ia kenau kaka kiai ka ko 'enau hifo ki mamani 'o mali ki he fanau 'a e kau Nopele, pe ko e kakai 'o e fonua, pea nau toki kaka mei ai. Kaikehe ko e disagreement koeni hangee ko e lau 'a Niu ko e me'a fakalotofale pe ia 'a e fale 'o Ha'a Moheofo. Ka ko hono pangoo he 'oku totonu kenau hoko ko e taki mo e ta sipinga lelei ki he fonua (role model). He'ikai ha'aku fakaanga ki he ongo 'a e Kuini Fehuhu he 'oku ne kei mo'ui 'o sio ki he toe mali hono mokopuna mo e mokopuna hono tehina. Fua tautau pe au kia au,'eku tutupu hake mo haku ta'okete tamai taha fa'e taha pea toe mali homa ongo mokopuna, talatu 'e tali aipe hoku ui 'oku. Mahalo kapau na'a kuo mole atu 'a e Kuini Fehuhu fakataha mo hono tehina 'o hange ko e mole atu 'a Taufa'ahau mo Fatafehi,'e ki'i ongo ma'ama'a ange.
Mou sio atu aa ki Pilitania, mo 'Iulope, ko 'enau kuo tuku pea tapui e mali famili he 'oku kovi 'aupito. Ko Dianna ena mo Kate mo hai fua kuo kumi mo'ui ki ai e British Monarchy,'oku lahi e famili British monarchy 'oku fakasesele 'aupito ko e tupu mei he genetic recessive mutation.
Kapau na koha mali 'a e Pilinisi Kalauini mo Leanahola 'a Pilinisesi Fusipala, kou tui 'e ki'i fakalumalie ange ia he ko e fo'i laini pe 'e taha 'oku vaofi ai hona famili. Ko 'ene tu'u leva he taimi ni 'e femali'aki pe fanga mokopuna 'o Tupou VI mo e fanga mokopuna 'o Pilolevu mo e fanga mokopuna 'o Ma'atu pea ko e tatau ia 'o e mali na'e toki fai. Ko e ha nai e lau 'a e Lotu faka-kalisitiane pe ko e tapu 'o e nofo faka-famili pe ko e ma'u 'a e saienisi ki he fo'i 'aliaki 'o e mali ko eni?
Tau lotua 'a Tonga mo e fale 'o Tupou ke fakatonua 'enau takii he ko 'ene kele pe 'a e matavai ko 'ene kele ia 'a e vai kotoa.'Ofa atu pea ke mou ma'u ha weekend fiefia mo malu foki.
'oku 'ikai toe hela hano 'ekea 'a e kovi pea moe palaku e me'a koe Incest Inbreed he kuo lahi e ngaahi fakatotolo kuo 'osi fai.

Ko e ha e 'aonga 'oo e lotu 'oku fai???

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Niu wrote:
Like all families, there's always going to be "disagreements".
Can you check with the palace office? I'm in Tonga and I know there's no fighting, just disagreements with the wedding.... but you know what? It has nothing to do with us because I still get paid for my job and my family are still enjoying their lives.
Have a great week-end Captain.
Malie mu'a toko pea 'oku ou tatau pe mo koe,he ngaue ke ma'u tola 'ikai tokanga koe ha 'enau lau mai..hihihi.Don't worry about who else's telling u off but just stick to what ever u believe(deal ?)Good on you and have a wonderful week end bro.
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malo taahine luseane e lavelave mai he me'ani....i hoo lau pehee koe fa'ele vao e o ma'u ai e kui a nanasi kou pehee pe nae fa'ele fefe pe oku na'e dna pe ikai but were raised knowing they are brother and sister's so nena fai e fetapui'aki fk sibling as such oku tau fai ihe anga fktonga. pe oku second cousin laini taha pe fktouma'u ongo laini ka oku nau kei second cousin pe....oku ikai keu tui kihe mali oku fai ka ko 'eku tuu aku 'o pehee koe kuini fehuhu ne 'iai hono taimi to make decision for her children koe taimini ko'ene fanau mo honau gaahi mali oku nau fai e tu'utu'uni kiheenau fanau he taimini.

oku ongo e mamahi e kuini fehuhu ka 'ihe taimi tatau koene fanau nau fai e aofangatuku ki heenau fanau....i hope she may find peace in time but i know its gonna be a long long road for that.

may our God almighty, with power to grant inner peace bestow it upon her.
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malo taahine luseane e lavelave mai he me'ani....i hoo lau pehee koe fa'ele vao e o ma'u ai e kui a nanasi kou pehee pe nae fa'ele fefe pe oku na'e dna pe ikai but were raised knowing they are brother and sister's so nena fai e fetapui'aki fk sibling as such oku tau fai ihe anga fktonga. pe oku second cousin laini taha pe fktouma'u ongo laini ka oku nau kei second cousin pe....oku ikai keu tui kihe mali oku fai ka ko 'eku tuu aku 'o pehee koe kuini fehuhu ne 'iai hono taimi to make decision for her children koe taimini ko'ene fanau mo honau gaahi mali oku nau fai e tu'utu'uni kiheenau fanau he taimini.
oku ongo e mamahi e kuini fehuhu ka 'ihe taimi tatau koene fanau nau fai e aofangatuku ki heenau fanau....i hope she may find peace in time but i know its gonna be a long long road for that.
may our God almighty, with power to grant inner peace bestow it upon her.
Point taken Koleange! tau lotu pe ke lahi he ko e kuonga kovi eni. As we all know ko e halanga tu'utu'uni ki he ngaahi me'a ni 'oku fou hifo ia mei he Tu'i 'o e 'aho koia. Na'e 'iai 'a e fokotu'utu'u ia 'a Kuini Salote kohai 'e mali mo e fanau 'a Fatafehi pea kohai 'e mali mo e fanau 'a Taufa'ahau? Na'e ongo ngofua pe 'a e me'a ni ia 'i he kuonga koia. Ko 'ene a'u mai ki he 2012, kuo mata'a'a 'a e palaku ia 'o e me'a ni ki Tonga pea 'oku taau mo e fale 'o e Tu'i ke nau lalaka mo e me'a 'oku lelei ki hono kakai fakalukufua. Pea 'oku ou kau fakataha au mo Koe hono ongo'i mo faka'amua ke hoifua hifo 'a e nonga 'a e 'Otua 'o fakafiemalie ki he Kuini Fehuhu.'Ofa atu pea malo e talanga.
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getting crossed-eye with the world headlines - crown prince weds his cousin. Mahu'inga ke tau ki'i faile 'atamai 'i he ngaahi me'a 'oku hoko hotau kuonga, pea lave tonu au kitautolu ko e Tonga 'oku fokoutua 'i he ngaahi fonua muli. 'Oku mahino mai pe 'a e si'isi'i 'a e fonua ko Tonga, si'isi'i mo e fakakaukau lelei, pea toe si'isi'i atu foki mo e lotu lelei. Ko e mahino ki he kakai 'o mamani 'oku 'ikai totonu ke tau mali mo hotau brothers, cousins (first and second), uncles etc koe'uhi kuo'osi fakamo'oni'i fakasaienisi 'e 'iai hono anga hange ko honou offstrings may inherit the weak genes of both parents etc. 'Ikai ngata ai ka kuo'osi legislate in every country that these unholy unions are unlawful. Some said this marriage is acceptable because the royal family of Tonga have done it for centuries. Wake up please, ko e kuonga lotu eni mo maama, pea tau feinga ke tulitulifua ki he lalaka 'o taimi. Personally I don't believe this should happen at all in 2012 and we really should pray hard for this royal family. Tuku a mu'a 'a e ngaahi lotu mo e malanga fuoloa, ka e fakakaukau'i ha ngaahi semina ke huluhulu 'a e ngaahi 'atamai ke mafao atu mei he piliote ki mamani. I am beginning to feel that Tonga is isolating itself from mainstream christianity and the rest of humanity. Malo
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