Proposed ordinance outlines controls on Long Beach marijuana co...

Who are we kidding?

$3,000 a month for rent
$7,000 a month for staff

No One can beat your neighborhood pot dealer, on disability, living with his mother, and highway access to Humboldt county.

IF there are 40 of these joker joint shops in Long Beach today, perhaps, 4 will be around a year from now. Where did your dues, and doctor's fees, and membership go? Up In Smoke.

Support your neighborhood dealer. The same one your grand daddy knew.

We do NOT keep names, addresses or phone numbers.

The only thing I find offensive is a government telling its citizens what they may or may not ingest. Not to mention folks sitting in judgement of others. Let's tax and regulate distribution as we do alcohol, cigarettes, and pharmaceuticals. Educate on the TRUE pros and and cons, and give it a rest. Live and let live.

No Dope wrote:

You do NOT need to "Doctor Shop" as Mr. Reality suggested.
The "Best" opperations have an office immediately next door, where the letter of referral (it is NOT a prescription) can be written.
For one week the neighbors have watched the opening of a new marijuna dispensory at 3120 Los Coyotes. A small trickle of folks going in. Next door to US Liquor and below residential appartments, 1,200 yards from Milliken, the "Medical Referral" office now looks complete and the "big opperations" should start this week.
It is a curious business. The locals have boyoted the property owner's quickie-mart next door. Some living across the street have been photographing/videoing customers and vehicles that are entering the "sign of the green cross." There is no rear access so everything is in plain open view.

Thanks for the tip! I live walking distance around the corner, have my recommendation, and didn't even know there was one there. I do now!
It's kinda funny because I get gas at the ARCO next door all the time. I wonder how many times I've been photographed filling up my tank. Now I can gas-up, get my beer, and my medi-marijuana all in one stop!
Thanks again dude, it's people like you that make me muy happy.
(I've been driving cross-town for a year now).

how about we get controls on city and the mayor lets control there spenting we are the people we are supposed to control the goverment

4 the haters and naysayers, marijuana is not a drug. Debate me bitches.

RevRayGreen wrote:

4 the haters and naysayers, marijuana is not a drug. Debate me bitches.

RevRayGreen.

I agree. We should not be drawn into a fruitless debate with the haters. To what good end would such debate lead? The schizophrenia - cannabis link is well established in the literature. Most of the haters are so afflicted. "The voices" only provoke them to become even further detached from reality. In the end, the monetary cost to our already overburdened health care system would only be compounded. We should not be enablers. Instead, we should use the money to better the health of children, not line the pockets of corrupt Long Beach politiocrat druggies who flee in terror from secondhand tobacco smoke, but restrict pot smoking to residential areas where children would be exposed to secondhand pot smoke.

Ronald

No Dope, would you like it if I filmed you going into Rite Aid? How about a liquor store?
Why not just make smoking it illegal again? Because that obiously worked so well in the past...o wait...

THIS is current Medical Research - most of it coming out of Europe.
Dope Users ARE in need of help.

It is expected that the age (from 17 to 15) of "first use of marijuana" will drop in areas where pot dispenseries are opperating.

Experiences in the Netherlands showed a younger age (15) of entrance into use of marijuana when the availability in coffe-house bars was expanded.
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Cannabis is the most frequently used illegal drug in France. In 2007, the average age for a first use was 15.1 years. The lapse between the first use and dependence is brief (approximately 18 months) with an average of 28 months compared to tobacco (3-5 years) and alcohol (5-9 years).
[Inserm U669, 75014 Paris, France]

Severe forms of marijuana use (eg, dependence) were associated with polysubstance use, and greater motivation to use marijuana for multiple reasons.
{Am J Addict. 2009 Sep-Oct;18(5):409-16.}

Addicted individuals found a great effect size in the differences when exploring the dysfunctional type, with higher scores in addicts. Dysfunctional impulsivity was related to dysexecutive symptoms and personality traits such as Novelty Seeking
[Psicothema. 2009 Nov;21(4):585-591.]

Confirmed high comorbidity in community-drawn samples between substance use disorders and anxiety or depression. 98 subjects composed four groups of substance users:
~non consumers (those who did not use any substance during the last month);
~consumers of alcohol only,
~consumers of cannabis (with or without alcohol) and
~consumers of other illicit substances (with or without cannabis or alcohol).
Novelty seeking scores increased linearly and significantly (p<0.001) from the group of non-consumers to the group of the consumers of the most deviant substances.
[Encephale. 2004 Nov-Dec;30(6):564-9].

Considerable attention has been paid to the relationship between Cannabis use and schizophrenia
Any consideration of this issue must take into account the substantial toxicity, impurity, and morbidity associated with marijuana use.

Cannabis and crime: findings from a longitudinal study.
the association between cannabis use during adolescence and young adulthood, and subsequent criminal charges.A Norwegian population-based sample (n = 1353) was followed from 13 to 27 years of age
found robust associations between cannabis use and later registered criminal charges, both in adolescence and in young adulthood. After adjustment,(for social backgrounds) they still found strong associations between cannabis use and later criminal charges.
[University of Oslo, October 15, 2009]

Research has shown that cannabis use contributes to school dropout. This French representative cross-sectional survey (N = 29 393 teenagers aged 17 years) The link with the move to daily cannabis use was more evident when it occurred <14 years of age rather than at >/=15 years. Repeating a grade before beginning to use cannabis increased the dropout rates compared with the opposite sequence. Girls were more affected by early grade repetition and by early and daily cannabis use.
[Eur J Public Health. 2009 Oct 5.]

Reduced response to reward in smokers and cannabis users
Our results suggest that regular cannabis use affects certain aspects of motivation and that both tobacco smoking and cannabis use lead to similar motivational changes. However, the use of cannabis seems to affect motivation in a stronger way than does tobacco smoking alone. MRI studies of the brains of regular marijuana users showed distinct dependent cravings after 72 hours without use.
University Hospital of Zurich, Zurich, Switzerland September 21, 2009

For all of us with medical reasons for the use of medical Marijuana, we hope that the city of long beach will keep us in mind when they decide to "regulate" our caregivers. Without them, alot of us would just be without options and live with our pain and agony with out our meds!

The check cashing place is gone
The guys on the bikes by Winchels left with it
So how do I buy at this new place?
How do you know it is not a police opperation?

Ronald wrote:

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RevRayGreen.
I agree. We should not be drawn into a fruitless debate with the haters. To what good end would such debate lead? The schizophrenia - cannabis link is well established in the literature. Most of the haters are so afflicted. "The voices" only provoke them to become even further detached from reality. In the end, the monetary cost to our already overburdened health care system would only be compounded. We should not be enablers. Instead, we should use the money to better the health of children, not line the pockets of corrupt Long Beach politiocrat druggies who flee in terror from secondhand tobacco smoke, but restrict pot smoking to residential areas where children would be exposed to secondhand pot smoke.
Ronald

The voices, it's the voices again. I can almost hear them. What is it voices? What is it you are saying? Speak louder please, I am in such a thc haze it has affected every fiber of my being.....what voices? Yes, yes, Ronald is a paranoid, uninformed drama king. Thank you voices, things are much more clear now. Time to blow my pot smoke out of the window in the hopes a small child gets caught in its haze...

Robin C wrote:

<quoted text>
The voices, it's the voices again. I can almost hear them. What is it voices? What is it you are saying? Speak louder please, I am in such a thc haze it has affected every fiber of my being.....what voices? Yes, yes, Ronald is a paranoid, uninformed drama king. Thank you voices, things are much more clear now. Time to blow my pot smoke out of the window in the hopes a small child gets caught in its haze...

Robin C.

I agree. Even though we should regard with some suspicion the claims of the pothead element that they "need" to smoke pot for "medical" reasons, we cannot fight their corrupt city hall politician advocates. Overtaxed Long Beach "normals" who own homes or who rent - and who will end up paying in one manner or another - should at least demand such "needs" are met in a compassionate and medically sound manner.

"Normals" must not permit the corrupt politicians to endanger the health of children, and others with secondhand pot smoke by letting them "dump" potheads who are undergoing "treatment" into residential areas. The appropriate setting is the hospital, where these claimed to be ill potheads can be under close competent medical supervision and control while undergoing "treatment".

According to the "news", the cost of Obama's "health" care scheme will cost already overburdened taxpayers an additional amount in excess of $1.3 Government $Dollars over ten years.*(base starting Government "estimate") If Obama's Democrats get their "greatest Government social program since Social Security" passed in the Government's Senate, can't some of that money be used to hospitalize ill potheads who "need" "treatment"?

Lets keep our residential areas free of secondhand pot smoke. Are not our children and our old folks deserving of - including elderly WW2 vets and our few remaining gallant silver hair Rosie the Riveters - of at least that much respect from the corrupt self-serving politicians?

Ronald

*$1.3 Billions Government $Dollars.