Police in Gettysburg Investigate Fatal Shooting

Think Andy and Barney can handle this?

Luckily PSP throws their weight around and pushes the Gettysburg PD and Adams County DA out of the way in cases like this. The small town departments aren't equipped to handle the serious crime that is being reported in and around Gettysburg.

Leave it up to these overpaid security guards masquerading as Act 120 officers and defendants with good lawyers will walk. Small towns can't afford to match the pay and benefits that more prestigious departments pay their officers. So the people they do hire all got the job because they knew someone, not because they are good cops.

Laurie wrote:

Luckily PSP throws their weight around and pushes the Gettysburg PD and Adams County DA out of the way in cases like this. The small town departments aren't equipped to handle the serious crime that is being reported in and around Gettysburg.
Leave it up to these overpaid security guards masquerading as Act 120 officers and defendants with good lawyers will walk. Small towns can't afford to match the pay and benefits that more prestigious departments pay their officers. So the people they do hire all got the job because they knew someone, not because they are good cops.

Again, another uninformed opinion expressed.

Yes the PSP do have resources that the local law enforcement don’t have, and they also have some troopers with special training that locals don’t have. But the PSP and locals work together for an efficient operation.

The local police often call upon the state police for assistance when they have a need for those skills, or resources not available in the local police department. It doesn’t make a lot of since for a small department like Gettysburg to send officers for training, or to maintain the resources to investigate a crime that happens once every ten years or so. When such a crime happens the state police willingly assist.

I’m not 100% sure of this statement, so, I could be wrong, but I don’t believe the PSP have the right to, as you say throw their weight around, and move in and take things over from the local authorities.

The fact that this individual walked into the state police and told his story means nothing.

I know for a fact that gaining employment in the Gettysburg Police department is a very competitive process and is a civil service selection process, so knowing someone is of very little help, other than to perhaps let you know there will be a job announcement and that you should apply.

Laurie wrote:

Luckily PSP throws their weight around and pushes the Gettysburg PD and Adams County DA out of the way in cases like this. The small town departments aren't equipped to handle the serious crime that is being reported in and around Gettysburg.
Leave it up to these overpaid security guards masquerading as Act 120 officers and defendants with good lawyers will walk. Small towns can't afford to match the pay and benefits that more prestigious departments pay their officers. So the people they do hire all got the job because they knew someone, not because they are good cops.

Do you personally know each individual on the GPF?
Maybe the conditions you describe are common in New York but please do not paint Gettysburg or Pennsylvania with the same tainted brush.

85th Pennsylvania wrote:

<quoted text>Do you personally know each individual on the GPF?
Maybe the conditions you describe are common in New York but please do not paint Gettysburg or Pennsylvania with the same tainted brush.

Seems to me she's referring to just the Gettysburg area and not PA as a whole.

The requirements for Gettysburg are pretty much the same as anyplace else in Pennsylvania. It is a civil service appointment, involving a written test, background investigation, and reference checks. A probationary period is served, and completion of all training and obtaining all required certifications is required before the position can be permanent.

It has been that way in Gettysburg since at least 1969. The person with the highest test score is offered the position, unless they fail the background or reference checks. The individual must also successfully complete all required training and obtain all of the required professional certifications before they can be considered for permanent appointment.

If you have proof that things are being done otherwise, and not just false claims, please provide it.

Legend in My Own Mind wrote:

The requirements for Gettysburg are pretty much the same as anyplace else in Pennsylvania. It is a civil service appointment, involving a written test, background investigation, and reference checks. A probationary period is served, and completion of all training and obtaining all required certifications is required before the position can be permanent.
It has been that way in Gettysburg since at least 1969. The person with the highest test score is offered the position, unless they fail the background or reference checks. The individual must also successfully complete all required training and obtain all of the required professional certifications before they can be considered for permanent appointment.
If you have proof that things are being done otherwise, and not just false claims, please provide it.

I must disagree with you on one item. I don’t believe Act 120 went into effect until the mid 1980’s or so. Up until that time you still had to pass the written test, and an oral interview with the town officials and the police chief. The local police department provided “on the job training” at that time. I believe the State Police did offer some kind of Municipal Officer training program for local officers, but there were only so many places available for this training so many officers never got to attend it.

Once Act 120 was enacted, there was a period of time when officers could be “grandfathered” if they had been on the job for a certain period of time, and I am sure all of those officers are long since retired.

Legend in My Own Mind wrote:

The requirements for Gettysburg are pretty much the same as anyplace else in Pennsylvania. It is a civil service appointment, involving a written test, background investigation, and reference checks. A probationary period is served, and completion of all training and obtaining all required certifications is required before the position can be permanent.
It has been that way in Gettysburg since at least 1969. The person with the highest test score is offered the position, unless they fail the background or reference checks. The individual must also successfully complete all required training and obtain all of the required professional certifications before they can be considered for permanent appointment.
If you have proof that things are being done otherwise, and not just false claims, please provide it.

You got that all messed up, do you know anything about policing?

You sound like a big dumb stupid bonehead.

Laurie wrote:

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You got that all messed up, do you know anything about policing?
You sound like a big dumb stupid bonehead.

I would dare to say I know more about the law enforcement recruiting and hiring practices here in this area than you do. I believe the things to be accurate. What proof do you have that they are not?

Proof now, not false unproven accusations.

Legend in My Own Mind wrote:

The requirements for Gettysburg are pretty much the same as anyplace else in Pennsylvania. It is a civil service appointment, involving a written test, background investigation, and reference checks. A probationary period is served, and completion of all training and obtaining all required certifications is required before the position can be permanent.
It has been that way in Gettysburg since at least 1969. The person with the highest test score is offered the position, unless they fail the background or reference checks. The individual must also successfully complete all required training and obtain all of the required professional certifications before they can be considered for permanent appointment.
If you have proof that things are being done otherwise, and not just false claims, please provide it.

You forgot the drinking test

Legend in My Own Mind wrote:

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I would dare to say I know more about the law enforcement recruiting and hiring practices here in this area than you do. I believe the things to be accurate. What proof do you have that they are not?
Proof now, not false unproven accusations.

Prove your claims that you would dare say. What a foolhardy person you must be! Its just sickening. Everyone reads about the problems there, and many judge it to as an unsafe place with numerous roaming undesireables. You apparently have a vested interest in keeping things quiet. The bottom line is that you post untrue BS and act like a font of knowledge, which you most clearly are not. There must be people who could better represent the area than you. I bet they wouldn't steer Gettysburg into the toilet like you and your associates. Go find them.

Before Gettysburg can attract new businesses they need to clean up their act and get a police force that's able to handle these unlawful situations.

At this point it doesn't seem like they're able to handle it

Pink Eye wrote:

Before Gettysburg can attract new businesses they need to clean up their act and get a police force that's able to handle these unlawful situations.
At this point it doesn't seem like they're able to handle it

Many of the top law enforcement officers in the area have stated on the record that there is a gang problem and a major crime wave.

Laurie wrote:

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Many of the top law enforcement officers in the area have stated on the record that there is a gang problem and a major crime wave.

Absolutely false.

AC Native wrote:

<quoted text> Absolutely false.

why would we believe you. You're a local who depends on the tourism dollars to run your town. Without it, you have nothing to fall back on. With that in mind why would anyone take your word as being creditable.

Pink Eye wrote:

<quoted text>why would we believe you. You're a local who depends on the tourism dollars to run your town. Without it, you have nothing to fall back on. With that in mind why would anyone take your word as being creditable.

He is mad because he was proven to be a lying apologist.

Either that or the police chiefs and he newspaper are lying trying to
Make Gettysburg sound worse than it is. Lol!

Pink Eye wrote:

<quoted text>why would we believe you. You're a local who depends on the tourism dollars to run your town. Without it, you have nothing to fall back on. With that in mind why would anyone take your word as being creditable.

I'm not asking anyone to believe me, so actually you've got nothing. Keep trying.

Laurie wrote:

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He is mad because he was proven to be a lying apologist.
Either that or the police chiefs and he newspaper are lying trying to
Make Gettysburg sound worse than it is. Lol!

LOL. Floundering!

I thought you were going to just go away?

We are having a frank discussion about the rampant crime and violence that has overwhelmed Gettysburg. Too bad if you don't want to hear it.

Laurie wrote:

I thought you were going to just go away?
We are having a frank discussion about the rampant crime and violence that has overwhelmed Gettysburg. Too bad if you don't want to hear it.

Nope, said I wasn't going to comment anymore on that one thread. Deal with it.