Obama bypasses Congress on DREAM Act, stops deporting young illegals

Do you clean houses? Do you do landscaping? Do you babysitter? Construction work? Any other work that nobody wants to do? So immigrants do not take your job. Even though I believe good employees are always employed, only mediocre ones are complaining about positions.

Jenny wrote:

Do you clean houses? Do you do landscaping? Do you babysitter? Construction work? Any other work that nobody wants to do? So immigrants do not take your job. Even though I believe good employees are always employed, only mediocre ones are complaining about positions.

So, you are saying that the jobs on your list are beneath you? You are a good employee which give you protection?

Go pet the Unicorn, you are naive.

Prep-for-Dep wrote:

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So how is it that when Louisiana was one of the last holdouts on the drinking age, the Federal Government told the State they would forfeit their tax dollars for their roads if they didn't raise the drinking age to 21 from 18?

Huh? The Federal Highway Trust Fund is derived entirely from federal gas taxes and distributed to all states

frank wrote:

<quoted text>Huh? The Federal Highway Trust Fund is derived entirely from federal gas taxes and distributed to all states

Ok, that still doesn't answer my question.
That money was under threat of withdrawal if Louisiana didn't raise it's drinking age.

Silly Logic wrote:

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Somebody has to do those jobs and clearly you or the majority of Americans are not willing to do those jobs so they end up in the hands of immigrants who're likely illegal.
Then people like you who are unemployed rant & rave that these people are stealing your jobs.
Talk about stupid logic!

When did I state that I was unemployed? Talk about stupid. When did I rant and rave? You are now saying that "A Majority of Americans" refuse to do manual or trades labor?

You live a sheltered life. MANY "Americans" work at trades and even low skilled jobs.

Everyone does not have an advanced degree and sit in front of a computer.

You cannot apply your delusions to every American, such action is very bigoted.

You should not use the word logic you do not comprehend its meaning.

Silly Logic wrote:

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Somebody has to do those jobs and clearly you or the majority of Americans are not willing to do those jobs so they end up in the hands of immigrants who're likely illegal.
Then people like you who are unemployed rant & rave that these people are stealing your jobs.
Talk about stupid logic!

That just about sums up, here in the farming country of the San Joaquin Valley farmers have been forced to plow-under their fruits and vegetables because farm labor is getting scarce as a result of myopic republican anti Mexican worker action. Not only is it devastating the farming community but it drives up food prices! These kneejerk t-bagger wingnuz have not a clue what it means to govern in the real world!

Prep-for-Dep wrote:

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Ok, that still doesn't answer my question.
That money was under threat of withdrawal if Louisiana didn't raise it's drinking age.

Hey Forrest would you like a box of chocolates? Perhaps you ought to do your own research why it's good idea to keep young people sober behind the steering wheel?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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That just about sums up, here in the farming country of the San Joaquin Valley farmers have been forced to plow-under their fruits and vegetables because farm labor is getting scarce as a result of myopic republican anti Mexican worker action. Not only is it devastating the farming community but it drives up food prices! These kneejerk t-bagger wingnuz have not a clue what it means to govern in the real world!

Drought having zero effect on the farming? Thought it was nation wide?

What about the legal migrant workers from the UFW none of them left?

So, you are saying without Illegal workers the farmers (corporate farms) cannot operate and each and every one of them are plowing under their veg and fruit crops?

frank wrote:

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That just about sums up, here in the farming country of the San Joaquin Valley farmers have been forced to plow-under their fruits and vegetables because farm labor is getting scarce as a result of myopic republican anti Mexican worker action. Not only is it devastating the farming community but it drives up food prices! These kneejerk t-bagger wingnuz have not a clue what it means to govern in the real world!

http://www.acwa.com/content/water-supply/cali...

Seems drought conditions are impacting california farming

frank wrote:

<quoted text>Hey Forrest would you like a box of chocolates? Perhaps you ought to do your own research why it's good idea to keep young people sober behind the steering wheel?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Yep that's what I thought smart guy.
Your answer is a clip from a Forrest Gump trailer?
Maybe you're politician material after all.

pug wrote:

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Drought having zero effect on the farming? Thought it was nation wide?
What about the legal migrant workers from the UFW none of them left?
So, you are saying without Illegal workers the farmers (corporate farms) cannot operate and each and every one of them are plowing under their veg and fruit crops?

No you said that smartass!

pug wrote:

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http://www.acwa.com/content/water-supply/cali...
Seems drought conditions are impacting california farming

You figure that out all by yourself Einstein - farming requires water - what a friggen moron!

frank wrote:

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That just about sums up, here in the farming country of the San Joaquin Valley farmers have been forced to plow-under their fruits and vegetables because farm labor is getting scarce as a result of myopic republican anti Mexican worker action. Not only is it devastating the farming community but it drives up food prices! These kneejerk t-bagger wingnuz have not a clue what it means to govern in the real world!

Odd thought you posted this scare piece

pug wrote:

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When did I state that I was unemployed? Talk about stupid. When did I rant and rave? You are now saying that "A Majority of Americans" refuse to do manual or trades labor?
You live a sheltered life. MANY "Americans" work at trades and even low skilled jobs.
Everyone does not have an advanced degree and sit in front of a computer.
You cannot apply your delusions to every American, such action is very bigoted.
You should not use the word logic you do not comprehend its meaning.

Statistically speaking the jobs in question are by a majority done by illegal aliens which means those are jobs that many many Americans are not willing to do.

I tell you what, I would not want to do those jobs.

frank wrote:

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That just about sums up, here in the farming country of the San Joaquin Valley farmers have been forced to plow-under their fruits and vegetables because farm labor is getting scarce as a result of myopic republican anti Mexican worker action. Not only is it devastating the farming community but it drives up food prices! These kneejerk t-bagger wingnuz have not a clue what it means to govern in the real world!

The problem is, the farmers are too cheap and too lazy to use H2 visas to bring in foreign workers. There is a government approved visa to do that.

racer42 wrote:

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The problem is, the farmers are too cheap and too lazy to use H2 visas to bring in foreign workers. There is a government approved visa to do that.

That’s a cheep shot, inform yourself before making a blanket statement like that. Do you have any idea how long it takes to process a migrant worker’s visa in Mexico City? The American Consulate is so seriously understaffed; no Mexican worker serious about a job in America would even bother trying the legal channels, it takes years. Farmers, on the other hand, are so desperate for workers all they check is a social security number to collect the taxes. Farmers have not seen an American citizen applying for a job in the field in the past fifty years -- not a single one.

frank wrote:

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That’s a cheep shot, inform yourself before making a blanket statement like that. Do you have any idea how long it takes to process a migrant worker’s visa in Mexico City? The American Consulate is so seriously understaffed; no Mexican worker serious about a job in America would even bother trying the legal channels, it takes years. Farmers, on the other hand, are so desperate for workers all they check is a social security number to collect the taxes. Farmers have not seen an American citizen applying for a job in the field in the past fifty years -- not a single one.

Fine, if you've got an issue with the protocols, form a lobbying group and go to the government with a streamlined plan that will allow you to bring in temporary workers from outside the country to pick your crops. The only thing the politicians respond to is voters and money. If you have a big enough group, you'll get their attention. Of course, you'll (the biblical you, not you specifically) have to pay them a decent wage and provide transportation and housing and medical care for them. Not treat them like slave labor so that they die in the fields of heat prostration, which has occurred.

frank wrote:

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That just about sums up, here in the farming country of the San Joaquin Valley farmers have been forced to plow-under their fruits and vegetables because farm labor is getting scarce as a result of myopic republican anti Mexican worker action. Not only is it devastating the farming community but it drives up food prices! These kneejerk t-bagger wingnuz have not a clue what it means to govern in the real world!

For years in the Central Valley, crops died and fruit and nut trees withered because the democratic congress wouldn't intervene to release water due to a non indigenous fish being harmed. At present, California asparagus farmers are laying off workers because they don't think the crop price is high enough. The strawberry farmers, will plow under a crop rather than allow UFW in. Aliens aren't the answer, inmates is. Give any of our 200k state and county inmates the ability to work in the fields, Pay them. Have them pay taxes, SSI and WCI, and the cost of their supervision, then let them save the rest for their needs upon release. The biggest get is the work ethic they learn.

Why folks get stuck in a mind box is beyond me.

Apparently our President does now know what ILLEGAL means or abide by the laws that are in place. What a disappointment.

There are ways to get in America legally, why not do it the right way.

racer42 wrote:

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The problem is, the farmers are too cheap and too lazy to use H2 visas to bring in foreign workers. There is a government approved visa to do that.

Obama: AK-47s 'belong on the battlefield'

The president takes his boldest step into the gun control debate since the mass shooting in Colorado.

and so the anti 2nd ammendment nuts begin

Fight back in NOV, Give the Obama a send off