Could George Zimmerman walk free after 'stand your ground' hearing?

Aug 9, 2012 Full story: www.csmonitor.com 49
The trial of neighborhood watchman George Zimmerman for the murder of Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black teenager, could be over before it even starts.

According to Mr. Zimmerman’s lawyer, his client will seek a “stand your ground” hearing – a “mini-trial” where evidence is introduced to a judge, there is no jury, and the burden of proof is on the defense to prove the claim. Florida’s controversial 2005 stand your ground law – the first such law in the United States – made it legal for people to use deadly force if they feared for their life during an attack in a public place.

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“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#1 Aug 9, 2012
But it was Martin who 'stood his ground' against vigilante Zimmerman.

Zimmerman assaulted Martin, who first avoided Zimmermann, and then stood his ground.

Is this law a recipe for mayhem?
Robert

Hollywood, FL

#2 Aug 9, 2012
I guess you are a surprise witness cause I did not read any of that in any of the statements. Martin stand his ground against what, nothing but mr bill story telling.

If the judge does not chicken out it is game over, simple case of self defense. Thug Martin attacked Zimmerman because he was mad at him, he just did not know Zimmerman was carrying a weapon.
fightback

Danville, KY

#3 Aug 9, 2012
comments after the article:

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Black witnesses on the scene have stated they saw Martin atop Zimmerman, giving him the MMA beat-down, seconds before Zimmerman shot him.

If Zimmerman was intending to kill Trayvon right off, why let him get to the point of bashing his head against the sidewalk?

Forensics, not emotions.

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the autopsy show Trayvon was shot UPWARDS (not shot DOWN) while he was above Zimmerman who was laying in the ground having his head beat against concrete supported by several witnesses.

Also, Zimmerman did not shoot him until he grabbed for Zimmerman's gun.

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I want the truth; after that let the chimps fall where they may.

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Charles B

Naugatuck, CT

#4 Aug 9, 2012
hopefully justice will prevail and Zimmerman will be freed
blaster

Charlottesville, VA

#5 Aug 9, 2012
why do people cry foul when a thug gets shot
yeayAmerica

Georgetown, KY

#6 Aug 10, 2012
fightback wrote:
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I want the truth; after that let the chimps fall where they may.
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i am so reposting this everywhere when racist pieces of sht think they'll intimidate anyone by creating a riot.

imo - please do, we'd love to have lots of legal incidents of removing from peaceful society - a hoarde of violent pieces of sht.

the PROBLEM with society today is: we don't do enough of removing violent pieces of sht.

the world is unsafe - because we had been failing to remove violent pieces of sht.

but that's changing,

so please help us - i'm talking to you, the violent pieces of sht. please help us make a better world, by continuing to act out with your violence.

if i were competing in the Miss America contest, i would say:

i want world peace... by identifying by their actions, and removing by us the good lawabiding people, all the violent pieces of sht. thank you!*kisses*

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#7 Aug 10, 2012
Robert wrote:
I guess you are a surprise witness cause I did not read any of that in any of the statements. Martin stand his ground against what, nothing but mr bill story telling.
If the judge does not chicken out it is game over, simple case of self defense. Thug Martin attacked Zimmerman because he was mad at him, he just did not know Zimmerman was carrying a weapon.
Talk about surprise witness. YOU were there? You saw Martin attack Zimmerman?

Problem with this case is it's one man's word against a dead person's word. Not exactly a fair argument. Zimmerman is not only a cocky cop-wannabe; he's also a liar and child molester. I sincerely hope the allegations that young woman brought against him are investigated further. Zimmerman's a troublemaker. He's gotten away with too much in his life. He thinks he's immune to wrongdoing, even murder.

Since: May 11

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#8 Aug 10, 2012
yeayAmerica wrote:
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i am so reposting this everywhere when racist pieces of sht think they'll intimidate anyone by creating a riot.
imo - please do, we'd love to have lots of legal incidents of removing from peaceful society - a hoarde of violent pieces of sht.
the PROBLEM with society today is: we don't do enough of removing violent pieces of sht.
the world is unsafe - because we had been failing to remove violent pieces of sht.
but that's changing,
so please help us - i'm talking to you, the violent pieces of sht. please help us make a better world, by continuing to act out with your violence.
if i were competing in the Miss America contest, i would say:
i want world peace... by identifying by their actions, and removing by us the good lawabiding people, all the violent pieces of sht. thank you!*kisses*
From the sounds of this ranting diatribe, I sincerely hope no one's considered giving you a gun license.

Since: Sep 09

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#9 Aug 10, 2012
Mr_Bill wrote:
But it was Martin who 'stood his ground' against vigilante Zimmerman.
Zimmerman assaulted Martin, who first avoided Zimmermann, and then stood his ground.
Is this law a recipe for mayhem?
Zimmerman did not assault Martin,.....it is not "assault" when someone follows you and then asks you a question. It IS ASSAULT when you punch someone who was asking you a question in the face and knock them to the ground and start pounding their head into the sidewalk......If someone did that to me, and I had the means to stop the pounding of the head into the ground, yes...I would have shot the attacker also....

There were several unfortunate things that happened that night...and Zimmerman, may have caused this outcome by acting as any concerned citizen by asking a unknown person in his neighborhood what he was up to....I would have done the same....
And Martin, was obviously trying to act all "gansta" for his ew girlfriend on the phone...he was going to show her " he wuz da man"...So he jumped Zimmerman, why not...Martin was taller and younger....so he "knew" he had some advantage....he did not count on Zimmerman being unable to defend himself and using a gun to end the confrontation....
But legally...Zimmerman was afraid for his life as his head was being pounded into the ground...and he legally use deadly force to stop it.....not what we want to hear...but legal..

Since: Sep 09

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#10 Aug 10, 2012
PayThat CEO wrote:
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From the sounds of this ranting diatribe, I sincerely hope no one's considered giving you a gun license.
know this, there are some rifles that can be purchased without a license....just a legal ID....

Since: Sep 09

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#11 Aug 10, 2012
PayThat CEO wrote:
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Talk about surprise witness. YOU were there? You saw Martin attack Zimmerman?
Problem with this case is it's one man's word against a dead person's word. Not exactly a fair argument. Zimmerman is not only a cocky cop-wannabe; he's also a liar and child molester. I sincerely hope the allegations that young woman brought against him are investigated further. Zimmerman's a troublemaker. He's gotten away with too much in his life. He thinks he's immune to wrongdoing, even murder.
Oh so you KNOW the legal outcome of the case already??? As far as I kno there has been no convictions as of yet....so Mr. Zimmerma isnot anything except an ACCUSED murder suspect....The "molester thing" is not even being investigated, so far that is just an allegation by a family member that has REFUSED to take a lie detector....that is just "hearsay" and not even a part of this trial...becareful of online, topix allegations...

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#13 Aug 10, 2012
Mi_nina wrote:
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know this, there are some rifles that can be purchased without a license....just a legal ID....
Yeah. Lucky for James Holmes.

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#14 Aug 10, 2012
blaster wrote:
why do people cry foul when a thug gets shot
Did you know this kid personally?

Since: May 11

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#15 Aug 10, 2012
Mr_Bill wrote:
But it was Martin who 'stood his ground' against vigilante Zimmerman.
Zimmerman assaulted Martin, who first avoided Zimmermann, and then stood his ground.
Is this law a recipe for mayhem?
In time America will become a shoot or be shot society. Sad for your mother or child or grandmother or wife or grandchild if they are caught in the crossfire.

As I've said before, Zimmerman went looking for trouble and he found it. He was irresponsible in leaving his car before the police arrived. Had the bullet he fired missed Martin and gone through the window of a neighboring house, he could have killed a child or someone not even involved in the situation.

Zimmerman did not think through the possibilities of his actions. He wanted to be a hero. When I look at situations like this I ask myself what could someone have done differently so that the outcome would not have resulted in tragedy? Zimmerman had many choices that night, more rational choices. Had he simply remained in his car like the 911 operator asked him to do...followed a simple instruction....none of this would have happened.

Maybe Martin and Zimmerman both made bad choices that night, but Zimmerman is the one who is alive.

“The haters hate me”

Since: Aug 12

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#16 Aug 10, 2012
Mr_Bill wrote:
But it was Martin who 'stood his ground' against vigilante Zimmerman.
Zimmerman assaulted Martin, who first avoided Zimmermann, and then stood his ground.
Is this law a recipe for mayhem?
You have the lenses in your glasses backward.

Innocent until proven guilty.

This law is a recipe to stop the mayhem.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#17 Aug 10, 2012
PayThat CEO wrote:
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Talk about surprise witness. YOU were there? You saw Martin attack Zimmerman?
Problem with this case is it's one man's word against a dead person's word. Not exactly a fair argument. Zimmerman is not only a cocky cop-wannabe; he's also a liar and child molester. I sincerely hope the allegations that young woman brought against him are investigated further. Zimmerman's a troublemaker. He's gotten away with too much in his life. He thinks he's immune to wrongdoing, even murder.
We know that "phony cop" Zimmermann called the police, and they warned him off stalking Martin, yet he continued.

“The haters hate me”

Since: Aug 12

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#18 Aug 10, 2012
PayThat CEO wrote:
<quoted text>
Talk about surprise witness. YOU were there? You saw Martin attack Zimmerman?
Problem with this case is it's one man's word against a dead person's word. Not exactly a fair argument. Zimmerman is not only a cocky cop-wannabe; he's also a liar and child molester. I sincerely hope the allegations that young woman brought against him are investigated further. Zimmerman's a troublemaker. He's gotten away with too much in his life. He thinks he's immune to wrongdoing, even murder.
“Problem with this case is it's one man's word against a dead person's word.”. That is the prosecutions problem and certainly not proof of quilt of Zimmerman.

“Zimmerman's a troublemaker. He's gotten away with too much in his life.”. So you suggest we convict him of murder ‘cuz he “got away” with some other stuff?

You are black aren’t you?

“The haters hate me”

Since: Aug 12

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#19 Aug 10, 2012
Mr_Bill wrote:
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We know that "phony cop" Zimmermann called the police, and they warned him off stalking Martin, yet he continued.
The police didn't "warn him off stalking". You lie terrible. They simply said they did need him to keep following him, they didn't even tell him not to follow him.Pff! You are a light-weight.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#20 Aug 10, 2012
centerline wrote:
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The police didn't "warn him off stalking". You lie terrible. They simply said they did need him to keep following him, they didn't even tell him not to follow him.Pff! You are a light-weight.
Same difference.

In any case, the call established that Zimmermann was stalking Martin with a gun.

Don't I wish I were a lightweight.

“The haters hate me”

Since: Aug 12

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#21 Aug 10, 2012
Mr_Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
Same difference.
In any case, the call established that Zimmermann was stalking Martin with a gun.
Don't I wish I were a lightweight.
It estblished nothing of the sort and made no reference to a gun. You're a dipshyt.

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