Analysis: US is now winning Iraq war that seemed lost; focus fi...

Alz wrote:

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Well, that's all wrong. Some facts are right, but the conclusions are all wrong.
The war is going far better than the Modern Liberals/Democrats would like it to be.....
Bush said after 9/11 that this was a war that that was like no other.....
Bush also said he was going after terrorism. He didn't claim that 9/11 came from Iraq; that was a fabrication from the Modern Liberals/Democrats so they could attack Bush..... Party.

PART 1 OF 2:3.) from the March 14, 2003 edition - http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0314/p02s01-woi...
The impact of Bush linking 9/11 and Iraq
American attitudes about a connection have changed, firming up the case for war.
By Linda Feldmann | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor
WASHINGTON - In his prime-time press conference last week, which focused almost solely on Iraq, President Bush mentioned Sept. 11 eight times. He referred to Saddam Hussein many more times than that, often in the same breath with Sept. 11.
Bush never pinned blame for the attacks directly on the Iraqi president. Still, the overall effect was to reinforce an impression that persists among much of the American public: that the Iraqi dictator did play a direct role in the attacks. A New York Times/CBS poll this week shows that 45 percent of Americans believe Mr. Hussein was "personally involved" in Sept. 11, about the same figure as a month ago.
Sources knowledgeable about US intelligence say there is no evidence that Hussein played a role in the Sept. 11 attacks, nor that he has been or is currently aiding Al Qaeda. Yet the White House appears to be encouraging this false impression, as it seeks to maintain American support for a possible war against Iraq and demonstrate seriousness of purpose to Hussein's regime…..
4.) 9/11 Linked To Iraq, In Politics if Not in Fact
By Peter Baker
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, September 12, 2007; A01
The television commercial is grim and gripping: A soldier who lost both legs in an explosion near Fallujah explains why he thinks U.S. forces need to stay in Iraq.
"They attacked us," he says as the screen turns to an image of the second hijacked airplane heading toward the smoking World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. "And they will again. They won't stop in Iraq."
Every investigation has shown that Iraq did not, in fact, have anything to do with the Sept. 11 attacks. But the ad, part of a new $15 million media blitz launched by an advocacy group allied with the White House, may be the most overt attempt during the current debate in Congress over the war to link the attacks with Iraq….
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
And no -- the war is not going "far better" than many of us would like; it has ALREADY gone far worse. Those numbers you object to are credible numbers. If numbers were the only criterion, we already have suffered humiliating defeat.
In a war that should never have started, in a war we should not be in, in a war fought for oil (according to Alan Greenspan and other credible insiders), NONE of these numbers are signs of "victory."
Who can "win" a war that should never have been?

This is wonderful news. For Iraq, for America and for our troops. Why argue about it?

Sheesh David K, you seem upset our troops are winning. What kind of American are you or are you from some other nation who wants America to fail?

Wars are never easy to win. We had setbacks in WW2 but we perserved and went on to win a huge victory.

Iraq may not be on the same scale as defeating Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan but a madman was removed from power, al Qaeda in Iraq was crushed and the people of Iraq now have the opportunity to live as the other Gulf
Arabs do in peace and prosperity. What is wrong with that?

Scott wrote:

Sheesh David K, you seem upset our troops are winning. What kind of American are you or are you from some other nation who wants America to fail?
Wars are never easy to win. We had setbacks in WW2 but we perserved and went on to win a huge victory.
Iraq may not be on the same scale as defeating Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan but a madman was removed from power, al Qaeda in Iraq was crushed and the people of Iraq now have the opportunity to live as the other Gulf
Arabs do in peace and prosperity. What is wrong with that?

What's wrong with it is the 4000+ promising American lives that were lost and the 10's of thousands more that were (and are still being) maimed and ruined. AND the billions of dollars that have and are being spent to basically police a civil war THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH US. Quite with "the troops are winning" cr*p. They're being used and abused and as an American I find it offensive. You like seeing our service people die? You like watching your country go bankrupt and borrowing from a communist country to prop itself up. What kind of freakin' American is that?

And, my braintrust friend, can you at LEAST remember that Al Qaeda WASN'T in Iraq till we came in and turned everything upside down? That mad dictator kept them out. Saddam isn't missed, but we went in with no plan and George HW Bush's predictions proved correct.

But remember in November before you vote, there is still time to surrender. Obama was just in France, and I'm sure they gave him pointers.

Okay, if this is true, they owe us about 4,000 lives and about $3.5 trillion bucks. We'll take the latter in oil trade, quick, fast, and in a hurry.

TheRockofAges wrote:

Okay, if this is true, they owe us about 4,000 lives and about $3.5 trillion bucks. We'll take the latter in oil trade, quick, fast, and in a hurry.

How about all of the civilians who lost their lives because of Bush's piece of sh-- baby killer troops. People like you make me sick. We go into THEIR country & push THEIR civilians around & innocent people lose their lives but it's all good as long as you get reperations you selfish American sh--. Maybe someday somebody will do to your family or friends what Bush did to the Iraqi & Afghan people.

It was all sweetness and light under Mr. Hussein? Ahh,for the good old days!!

Loony libs cry and moan and spin, but I'll bet the American people can see the reality

Sounds like President Bush won again. Poor media...it must have been painful to write this article.

Tread, Art and the other sewer mud who have done absolutely nothing for our country or this Earth...even if you continue to take up free oxygen and spout meaningless political rhetoric...have the decency of respecting those whose sacrifice protect you from your useless ignorance.

At least take off your hat before you make a stupid statement. That way, we'll know who you are.

OK We've won.
Now can we go home please???

Obama will stop the war with one wave of his mighty hand !! LOL

WE have not won anything, because we never knew why we went over there, and after we got there, there was nothing worth fighting for.
Iraq is about as screwed up now as it was when Saddam was running the show.
Billions of dollars flushed down the toilet drain hole called Iraq. That is Bush legacy

Nose Puede wrote:

Tread, Art and the other sewer mud who have done absolutely nothing for our country or this Earth...even if you continue to take up free oxygen and spout meaningless political rhetoric...have the decency of respecting those whose sacrifice protect you from your useless ignorance.
At least take off your hat before you make a stupid statement. That way, we'll know who you are.

So, you think that 4000 dead soldiers are "meaningless political rhetoric"? Who made you almighty dictator to judge who has done what for this country? You provide no argument, debate, links, or cognitive thought to this article. He who can only bad mouth, call names and spout insults has only ignorance to guide him.

Joey K wrote:

What have we...... "won"?

when was the last terrorist attack on U.S soil?

Anonymous wrote:

<quoted text> How about all of the civilians who lost their lives because of Bush's piece of sh-- baby killer troops. People like you make me sick. We go into THEIR country & push THEIR civilians around & innocent people lose their lives but it's all good as long as you get reperations you selfish American sh--. Maybe someday somebody will do to your family or friends what Bush did to the Iraqi & Afghan people.

Baby killers?you my friend are the piece of ****

Jake wrote:

Wow. It's good to hear about progress in Iraq by the people who are actually in Iraq. The surge strategy, which John McCain backed and opposed by Obama, actually works. John McCain has proven to have a foresight and judgement to lead this country. He'll have my vote in November.

the surge strategy consists of handing large sums of money to al sadr and the other tribal warmongers. in return, they keep their insurgents on hiatus. we stop handing out money and watch what happens. that's not victory, that's extortion from the pockets of american taxpayers!! i guess next we'll be paying street gangs in the u.s. to stop shooting and terrorizing, too.!

Tough Love wrote:

"They [the Sunni insurgents] now are either sidelined or have switched sides to cooperate with the Americans IN RETURN FOR MONEY AND POLITICAL SUPPORT [caps are mine]."
This is a telling statement. How can we claim this as winning when all we're doing is buying them off? And how is this OUR war? With Saddam removed and the 'threat' of WMD's over, this is all mop up...the results of sticking our foot in a really big and old hornet's nest. And it happened just as little Georgie's dad said it would. All we are doing is draining our country's resources, military, reputation and tax dollars to fight another country's civil war. When the money stops flowing to these groups, the killings will start all over again.
Then you have all the little cheerleaders who are playing happily with their GI Joe dolls (combating imaginary 'liberals', of course) and want this on the front page. The headline is definitely misleading if you really read the article. Thanks for spelling it out, Art, though the bubblehead cheerleaders could care less.

Liberals scream at Bush about the Iraq war but ignore the 5.5 million abortions deaths since the war's start. Where is the moral outrage over this slaughter?

finnius wrote:

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the surge strategy consists of handing large sums of money to al sadr and the other tribal warmongers. in return, they keep their insurgents on hiatus. we stop handing out money and watch what happens. that's not victory, that's extortion from the pockets of american taxpayers!! i guess next we'll be paying street gangs in the u.s. to stop shooting and terrorizing, too.!

YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT!! Bush's term is closing..

and the money ..is going to stop..!!

WE WILL BE LEAVING IRAQ SOON>>>

AS A FAILED NATION!!