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Long overdue. I-4 street racers that now get tickets will have to get their cars out of an impound lot if the bill passes.

Why did the Sentinel decide to make an issue of ethnicity in this article? It is especially surprising given the scrupulous avoidance of race in virtually all reports of crime in this paper. At least in crime articles an accurate description of the at large suspect could be useful to the citizenry. In this case I suppose I should be on the lookout for young PR males when I am driving or riding my bike?(Actually, I am.....also, women of all ages on cell phones and 'mascara-ing' while driving).

I agree that street racing should be stopped. But its not just hispanic youths that are out there racing, its anybody. I also like how they reference the F&F franchise.... Just how they reference the mafia when politicians go left field. Organized what?

ajnock wrote:

Why did the Sentinel decide to make an issue of ethnicity in this article?

Because they're the one's whose mostly commit this crime. Besides street racing, every day I see some "rice burner" whizzing by me, cutting in and out of traffic. While it is not always a hispanic male, it most often is.

The Original Sam wrote:

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Because they're the one's whose mostly commit this crime. Besides street racing, every day I see some "rice burner" whizzing by me, cutting in and out of traffic. While it is not always a hispanic male, it most often is.

You missed my point. It isn't the facts, it's that the exquisitely PC El Slantinel decided to report it when it involves PR's. This same paper never describes the ethnicity of black criminals even when violent suspects are at large and the police are searching.

Inceasing the penalties won't do any good if the police don't actually try to enforce the law. The cops in this area are more concerned with setting up speed traps to catch someone going five miles over the limit in the middle of the day than they are with doing anything worthwhile. Handing out tickets increases local revenue and it's easy. Stopping the drag racers would entail them actually having to work hard, and they sure as hell won't do THAT.

Go to South Florida and it has become an area of full gas or full brake. For Hispanics, that is the way it is, no middle ground. Now maybe if they lost their "manhood" in place of a fine....

A racer that is not deterred by the risk of death would not be deterred by additional legal consequences. The only way to stop him is to take away his ability to race by locking him up or taking away the car.

We support Linda Stewart on this issue! She is trying to save lives. Take the handcuffs off the police! They can't chase speeding cars - Please? I believe there are 7 rules or more that an officer has to jump over to have permission to chase a speeding car. That's nuts! Kids want to race? Pay money and go to a track. Want to race on our (yours and mine) streets, Go to jail, car motor is seperated from car, and car only is avail for pickup from owner. Kill someone while racing, other than yourself, you get a oneway ticket to old sparky. It's not hard to find the race clubs in this town. Roll down your window and listen for them.

How about attention and respect for bicyclists too? Sometimes it doesn't matter how safe you are on a bike if there is a car on the road too.

My community has suffered from illegal street racing. You may all be interested in visiting Http://www.EvoStreetRacers.com as they represent the largest motorsports association in the world that is creating solutions to illegal street racing.

Hey, if there was a decent track or drag strip around here, people wouldn't need to do this on the street to get their kicks.

ajnock wrote:

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You missed my point. It isn't the facts, it's that the exquisitely PC El Slantinel decided to report it when it involves PR's. This same paper never describes the ethnicity of black criminals even when violent suspects are at large and the police are searching.

This is because Orlando has a black police chief and orange county has a black sheriff. Both are Dyer cronies. You'll notice nothing bad ever reported about Dyer.

If this is mainly Hispanics killing other Hispanics, what's the problem?

Let them race. It thins the herd.

We had a problem like this in California 25 years ago.

We offered sanctioned street races overseen by police and safety officials every weekend at local drag strips and speedways. We made it affordable, safe and comfortable for spectators.

Kids will race. You probably did it when you were young. It is our responsibility as adults to educate children, and ensure that the choices they make have the least harmful effect on society that we can. We need to partner with youth, not chastise and belittle them.

Education and factual information is always the basis for real change in behavior. "First do no harm" should be principal in our decisions as a society. There should be solid, strict rules for people that break these laws, but we should offer outlets for our youth. Give them safer alternatives, because all the harsh sentences in the world will not stop this from taking place. Children just do not think like that, until its too late.

The Original Sam wrote:

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Because they're the one's whose mostly commit this crime. Besides street racing, every day I see some "rice burner" whizzing by me, cutting in and out of traffic. While it is not always a hispanic male, it most often is.

ughhrr.. bull sh..

Glen wrote:

\There should be solid, strict rules for people that break these laws, but we should offer outlets for our youth. Give them safer alternatives, because all the harsh sentences in the world will not stop this from taking place. Children just do not think like that, until its too late.

The problem is that it's frequently not a planned activity - it's spur of the moment when they see another car, or when that mutual recognition happens in traffic. It's bad enough that they take over some backroad, with onlookers, spotters, and an agreed upon route. But when it happens with daily traffic around them, it's worse. I don't think some commercialized racetrack can hope to provide or replace that thrill of the spontaneous race. To an extent, racetracks are the opposite of what they seem to be looking for. They represent rules, society, conformity, regularity. These aren't people who typically love to follow the rules.

DriveBy Poster wrote:

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The problem is that it's frequently not a planned activity - it's spur of the moment when they see another car, or when that mutual recognition happens in traffic. It's bad enough that they take over some backroad, with onlookers, spotters, and an agreed upon route. But when it happens with daily traffic around them, it's worse. I don't think some commercialized racetrack can hope to provide or replace that thrill of the spontaneous race. To an extent, racetracks are the opposite of what they seem to be looking for. They represent rules, society, conformity, regularity. These aren't people who typically love to follow the rules.

The good news is that you can "Think" it doesn't work all you want.

Fact is, it lowers the urge, raises education on the dangers of racing in an uncontrolled environment, and tells kids that adults are here to help, and that we have some understanding of what it is like to grow up.

There is something special about being honest with kids, it gets results.

Glen wrote:

Fact is, it lowers the urge, raises education on the dangers of racing in an uncontrolled environment, and tells kids that adults are here to help, and that we have some understanding of what it is like to grow up.
There is something special about being honest with kids, it gets results.

For some, I'm sure that's true.
There have always been local and safe alternatives, but the obvious reality is, kids are still street-racing. For others, turning it into a sanctioned, city-approved sport destroys some of the key appeal and doesn't replace the spontaneity with which it happens.