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Martinsville sex offender asks to move home

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indygirl

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#108
Sep 25, 2007
 
Hmmmmf wrote:
"IF" hes a trhreat he'd be a threat anywhere. Chances are highly that he is not a repeat offender, regardless to all the hate mongering, uneducated voices out there. State Rep. Foley is 100% correct, MOST of those on sex offender registry's simply made a mistake with a minor and are not remotely predators or real pedephiles. People do make mistakes, including ones of a sexual nature and only the very smallest of numbers are threats to children and society. America must learn to use common sense, psychological experts and modify laws that permanently are punitive. geesh, manslaughter convicts get far less time and punishment than someone who engaged in sex with a minor (often a very willing minor, altho still illegal).
Unfortunatly I highly doubt the 9 yr old he molested was a WILLING MINOR.
indygirl

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#109
Sep 25, 2007
 
Give me a break Bozo wrote:
Once a SEX OFFENDER/ALWAYS A SEX OFFENDER
END OF STORY. NO MEANS NO BOZO!!!!!!
Damn right! Once a sex offender always a sex offender!
stand and deliver

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#110
Sep 25, 2007
 
hey lafguy60 are you a child molester?
lafguy60

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#111
Sep 25, 2007
 
stand and deliver wrote:
hey lafguy60 are you a child molester?
Not that is is any of your business the answer is no. I have never been arrested or detained. I have recieved one traffic citation in my driving career. Some would say I'm a pretty boring person. Also, I happen to be happily married for over thirty years and the father of 2 and grandfather of 3. I did serve in the armed forces and faced enemy fire to protect your right to be here on these boards. You see I have taken the time to research what constitutional rights really mean. They are what seperate you and me from dictators and despots.
Advocate

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#112
Sep 25, 2007
 
You are way off base. This discussion is not about China, dictators or the Middle East. It's about a convicted child rapist here in Indiana who wants live next to a school.

Besides, posting remarks on a message board doesn't infringe upon anyone's constitutional right of the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness. Raping a 9 year old child does. "John Doe" infringed upon the constitutional rights of the child. Hopefully one day you will be able to comprehend that.

BTW. I didn't slander you. You slandered yourself by defending child molesters.
lafguy60 wrote:
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Yes there is a reason I am defending constitutional rights and that is so you can post remarks that border on slander. It is amazing that many of you think that defending a persons rights is the same as defending the person. How wrong you are. Regardless of what you want to believe the taking of anyones constitutional rights is serious. If you look back through history all despots and dictators started by taking rights little by little until there were none left. In the present day world you only have to look to China and several Middle Eastern countries to see those examples. We would not have the freedom to post to these boards or for that matter would these boards exist under a totalatarian regeime.
John camel

Indianapolis, IN

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#113
Sep 25, 2007
 
Shame on Mr. Foley for helping craft another poor written law.
get a clue

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#114
Sep 25, 2007
 
O M G

this offender should not be given any privileges

who cares if that's the home he grew up in. he shouldn't have committed the crime if he wasn't willing to do the time.

better yet, change the law for sex offenders and send them to jail for life.
INDY

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#115
Sep 25, 2007
 
lafguy60 wrote:
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Not that is is any of your business the answer is no. I have never been arrested or detained. I have recieved one traffic citation in my driving career. Some would say I'm a pretty boring person. Also, I happen to be happily married for over thirty years and the father of 2 and grandfather of 3. I did serve in the armed forces and faced enemy fire to protect your right to be here on these boards. You see I have taken the time to research what constitutional rights really mean. They are what seperate you and me from dictators and despots.
GLAD TO SEE YOU COULD RE-JOIN THE CONVERSATION JOHN DOE!
lafguy60

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#116
Sep 25, 2007
 
Advocate wrote:
You are way off base. This discussion is not about China, dictators or the Middle East. It's about a convicted child rapist here in Indiana who wants live next to a school.
Besides, posting remarks on a message board doesn't infringe upon anyone's constitutional right of the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness. Raping a 9 year old child does. "John Doe" infringed upon the constitutional rights of the child. Hopefully one day you will be able to comprehend that.
BTW. I didn't slander you. You slandered yourself by defending child molesters.
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Oh how I love to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed person. First, he is a child molestor not a rapist and there is a difference both in the commission of the act and the legal definition. Second, no John Doe did NOT infringe on the young victims constitutional rights unless you are going to again bring up the Preamble where it could be argued that each of us has had our right to Pursuit of Happiness infringed on at some time by someone. Perhaps one day you will truly understand constitutional rights. Finally, read or reread the definition of slander. It is impossible to slander one's self.
Advocate

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#117
Sep 25, 2007
 
Regardless of what is said on here ljheidel, "John Doe" is not about to be executed, stoned, boiled in oil, etc. by the government. This is about forbiding a child molester from living next to a school. Now if you want to talk about cruel and unusual punishment, ask the 9 year old boy to describe what was done to him. Afterwards you can explain to him the nuances H.L. Mencken writings and why he should feel more sympathetic of the "John Doe's" plight.
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<quoted text>I feel the same way about armed robbers, they traumatize people, too! Let's execute them. Then how about people who drive recklessly. Off with their heads!
In a free society, we have to be willing to pay for our freedoms. The second we start depriving others of liberty once they have paid their debt to society, or committing them to cruel and unusual punishment, is the second we give up a little freedom ourselves.
There are two quotes we would all be wise to remember:
"The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all." -H.L. Mencken
"hose who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin
goob

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#118
Sep 25, 2007
 
JJJ wrote:
This man has served his sentence. He should not be penalized twice by this law, which is likely unconstitutional. Eventually, the right case come before the right court, which will do its job and strike down this law.
The law is also likely unconstitutional on grounds that if he owns this property, his restriction from living in it may constitute a taking requiring the state to provide him compensation. I don't think it's a far stretch to get to that result.
This law should be repealed. If a sex offender is a danger, then let's go back to the legislature and provide judges with stricter sentencing guidelines. Then, if an offender is convicted and is truly dangerous, that offender may serve a very long time in jail. As the law stands, it punishes an offender twice for one crime - unconstitutional at the federal and state level.
He is not being punished twice. Being on the sex offender registry is a part of sentencing, and part of that is the 1000 feet limit. If he wanted to live where ever he wanted, he shouldn't have molested a child.

Since: Dec 06

Indianapolis, IN

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#119
Sep 25, 2007
 
PEEVED wrote:
Huh? He ONLY SERVED ten yrs?? Geez!! My nephew violated his probation and got 10 yrs for larcery (??) and This man MOLESTED a kid and got only 10 yrs!! Something's wrong with the system!! BURN HIS HOUSE!!!
No, he finished serving his sentence 10 years ago. No more jail time. No more probation.
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Sep 25, 2007
 
lafguy60 wrote:
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This is a law passed within the last 2or 3 years and is now being implemented. This person was sentanced in 1991 and completed his incarceration and probation in 1996. Now he is being froced to move from his home, and you don't see the problem. Let me try to clarify the problem for you - let's say you committed a traffice violation in 2001 and paid a $25 fine. Next year the legislature passed a law that increased the fine for that infraction to $2500 and anyone who has this on their driving record is required to pay the new fine. You get a bill for $2475 and you either pay it or have your license suspended. I suspect you would be more than just a little p*&^%d off. Double jepordy applies regardless of the crime.
You must be an idiot to compare a traffic ticket to child molestation.
CRABBY OLD BROAD

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#121
Sep 25, 2007
 
WHY DOESN'T HE SELL THE HOUSE, BUY ANOTHER ONE THAT IS NOT NEAR A SCHOOL AND EVERY THING WORKS OUT. SOME PEOPLE JUST MAKE MOUNTAINS OUT OF MOLEHILLS.

Since: Dec 06

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#122
Sep 25, 2007
 
goob wrote:
He is not being punished twice. Being on the sex offender registry is a part of sentencing, and part of that is the 1000 feet limit. If he wanted to live where ever he wanted, he shouldn't have molested a child.
I think we should change the law to be 50000 feet--we're 50 times safe that way. And anyoen who moves, well we will know they just like to mess with little boys.
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#123
Sep 25, 2007
 
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I just want the 1000 ft. law to be upheld. He is on the sex offender registry.
The 1000 ft law only applies to sexual predators, not all sex offenders. Sexual predators are a subclass within the people listed on the sex offenders list. Please learn about what you are commenting on. Looping everyone into something when not appropriate makes the situation worse.
lafguy60

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#124
Sep 25, 2007
 
INDY wrote:
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GLAD TO SEE YOU COULD RE-JOIN THE CONVERSATION JOHN DOE!
When one is slandered not once but several times it is time to jump back in. And you are another one that proves that there is not enough evidence to change your narrow closed mind. I have one question for everyone who wants to vilify any of us who voice our concerns that constitutional rights are being at the very least being bent by this law that imposes penalties after full punishment has already been served - have any of you served in the armed forces of this country and faced enemy fire in order to protect our rights and liberties?
lafguy60

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#125
Sep 25, 2007
 
get a clue wrote:
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You must be an idiot to compare a traffic ticket to child molestation.
Oh the simple minds that congregate here. Let me paint you a picture - I was comparing the imposition of penalties post-facto not comparing the two illegal activities. Can you grasp that simple fact?
Advocate

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#126
Sep 25, 2007
 
I see you have really done your research when it comes to defending pedophiles, so let's agree that the word is "molester" and not "molestor". Regarding your second point...man, are you serious? You have a warped mind only a pedophile and a lawyer could understand.

Regarding my use of the word slander, I decided to use some creative license with it. You can slander yourself the same way you can f.... yourself.
lafguy60 wrote:
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Oh how I love to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed person. First, he is a child molestor not a rapist and there is a difference both in the commission of the act and the legal definition. Second, no John Doe did NOT infringe on the young victims constitutional rights unless you are going to again bring up the Preamble where it could be argued that each of us has had our right to Pursuit of Happiness infringed on at some time by someone. Perhaps one day you will truly understand constitutional rights. Finally, read or reread the definition of slander. It is impossible to slander one's self.
Claire Wilson

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#127
Sep 25, 2007
 
I have to say that all men or boy's that are convicted are not guilty, some x - wife's have a vivad past of jealous husband's and make statements that people hear and don't have a clue about that person or his life!!This happened to my son ,whom in turn lost his job, car, and most of all his life!! Because he would not,believe that a jury would believe him, against a childs word, he took a plea bargin, he has to register all the rest of his life as a convicted sex offender.I don't know what has happened to our system but they don't consider all the circumstances, or even listen to the guilty person, or should I say (innocent til proven guilty)All you people that believe all are gulity,have never went thru something so devastating or you would not get involved! Read before you open your big mouth
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