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“Truth, Justice and Freedom” Since: Feb 09
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A short version would be that the Tamils wanted to eat the chicken and the eggs and the hens and the cocks. When they didn't get to do that, they said it was discrimination and they started this terror war. Nobody talks about the vast majourity who were caught in between the maniacs. |
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Melbourne, Australia |
Dont lie the Eastern Tamils were never brought in by the Duth or the British. Sri Lankan Tamil people or Ceylon Tamils, are an ethnic group native to the South Asian island state of Sri Lanka who predominantly speak Tamil. According to anthropological evidence, Sri Lankan Tamils have lived on the island since the 2nd century BCE. Most modern Sri Lankan Tamils descend from the Jaffna Kingdom, a former kingdom in the north of the island and Vannimai chieftaincies from the east. They constitute a majority in the Northern Province, live in significant numbers in the Eastern Province, and are in the minority throughout the rest of the country. Sri Lankan Tamils are culturally and linguistically distinct from the other two Tamil-speaking minorities in Sri Lanka, the Indian Tamils and the Moors. Genetic studies indicate that they are most closely related to the majority Sinhalese people than any other Asian group, with both groups sharing a common gene pool of 55%. The Sri Lankan Tamils are mostly Hindus with a significant Christian population. Sri Lankan Tamil literature on topics including religion and the sciences flourished during the medieval period in the court of the Jaffna Kingdom. Since the 1980s, it is distinguished by an emphasis on themes relating to the Sri Lankan Civil War. Sri Lankan Tamil dialects are noted for their archaism and retention of words not in everyday use in the Tamil Nadu state in India. The two groups of Tamils located in Sri Lanka are the Sri Lankan Tamils and the Indian Tamils. Sri Lankan Tamils (also called Ceylon Tamils) are descendants of the Tamils of the old Jaffna Kingdom and east coast chieftaincies called Vannimais. The Indian Tamils (or Hill Country Tamils) are descendants of bonded laborers sent from Tamil Nadu to Sri Lanka in the 19th century to work on tea plantations.[ A significant Tamil-speaking Muslim population exists in Sri Lanka; however, unlike Tamil Muslims from India, they do not identify as ethnic Tamils and are therefore listed as a separate ethnic group in official statistics Sri Lankan Tamils are categorized into three subgroups based on regional distribution, dialects, and culture: Negombo Tamils from the western part of the island, Eastern Tamils from the eastern part, and Jaffna or Northern Tamils from the north. Negombo Tamils Negombo Tamils, or Puttalam Tamils, are native Sri Lankan Tamils who live in the western Gampaha and Puttalam districts. The term does not apply to Tamil immigrants in these areas.[51] They are distinguished from other Tamils by their dialects, one of which is known as the Negombo Tamil dialect, and by aspects of their culture such as customary laws Most Negombo Tamils have assimilated into the Sinhalese ethnic group through a process known as Sinhalisation. Sinhalisation has been facilitated by caste myths and legends (see Passing (sociology Eastern Tamils inhabit a region that spans the Trincomalee, Batticaloa, and Ampara districts Their history and traditions are inspired by local legends, native literature, In the 1500s the area came under the nominal control of the Kandyan kingdom, but there was considerable local autonomy under native Vannimai chiefs.[62][63] From that time on, Eastern Tamil social development diverged from that of the Northern Tamils. |
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Eastern Tamils are an agrarian-based society. They follow a caste system similar to the South Indian or Dravidian kinship system. The Eastern Tamil caste hierarchy is dominated by the Mukkuvar. The main feature of their society is the kuti system.Although the Tamil word kuti means a house or settlement, in eastern Sri Lanka it is related to matrimonial alliances. It refers to the exogamous matrilineal clans and is found amongst most caste groups; men do not remain members of the kuti of their birth, instead joining the wife's kuti upon marriage. Kuti also collectively own places of worship such as Hindu temples. Each caste contains a number of kutis, with varying names. Aside from castes with an internal kuti system, there are seventeen caste groups, called Ciraikutis, or imprisoned kutis, whose members were considered to be in captivity, confined to specific services such as washing, weaving, and toddy tapping. However, such restrictions no longer apply.
The Tamils of the Trincomalee district have different social customs from their southern neighbors due to the influence of the Jaffna kingdom to the north. The indigenous Veddha people of the east coast also speak Tamil and have become assimilated into the Eastern Tamil caste structure. Most Eastern Tamils follow customary laws called Mukkuva laws codified during the Dutch colonial period. Northern Tamils Jaffna's history of being an independent kingdom lends legitimacy to the political claims of the Sri Lankan Tamils, and has provided a focus for their constitutional demands.Northern Tamil society is generally categorized into two groups: those who are from the Jaffna peninsula in the north, and those who are residents of the Vanni District to the immediate south. The Jaffna society is separated by caste divisions, with social dominance attained by Vellalar by means of myths and legends. Historically, the Vellalar, who form approximately fifty percent of the population, were involved in agriculture, using the services of castes collectively known as Panchamar (Tamil for group of five). The Panchamar consisted of the Nalavar, Pallar, Parayar, Vannar, and Ambattar.[68] Others such as the Karaiyar (fishermen) existed outside the agriculture-based caste system.[69] The caste of temple priests known as Iyers were also held in high esteem People in the Vanni districts considered themselves separate from Tamils of the Jaffna peninsula but the two groups did intermarry. Most of these married couples moved into the Vanni districts where land was available. Vanni consists of a number of highland settlements within forested lands using irrigation tank-based cultivation. An 1890 census listed 711 such tanks in this area. Hunting and raising livestock such as water buffalo and cattle is a necessary adjunct to the agriculture. The Tamil-inhabited Vanni consists of the Vavuniya, Mullaitivu, and Eastern Mannar district. Historically, the Vanni area has been in contact with what is now South India, including during the medieval period (see Vanniar).[68] Northern Tamils follow customary laws called Thesavalamai, codified during the Dutch colonial period. Genetic affinities |
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Melbourne, Australia |
In 1981, about eighty percent of Sri Lankan Tamils were Hindus who followed the Shaiva sect The rest were mostly Roman Catholics who converted after the Portuguese conquest of the Jaffna Kingdom and coastal Sri Lanka. There is also a small minority of Protestants due to missionary efforts in the 18th century by organizations such as the American Ceylon Mission
Language are differentiated by the phonological changes and sound shifts in their evolution from classical or old Tamil (3rd century BCE–7th century CE). The Sri Lankan Tamil dialects form a group that is distinct from the dialects of the modern Tamil Nadu and Kerala states of India. They are classified into three subgroups: the Jaffna Tamil, the Batticaloa Tamil, and the Negombo Tamil dialects. These dialects are also used by ethnic groups other than Tamils such as Muslims, Veddhas, and Sinhalese. Tamil loan words in Sinhala also follow the characteristics of Sri Lankan Tamil dialects. The Negombo Tamil dialect is used by bilingual fishermen in the Negombo area, who otherwise identify themselves as Sinhalese. This dialect has undergone considerable convergence with spoken Sinhala.[52] The Batticaloa Tamil dialect is shared between Tamils, Muslims, Veddhas and Portuguese Burghers in the Eastern Province. Batticaloa Tamil dialect is the most literary of all the spoken dialects of Tamil. It has preserved several ancient features, remaining more consistent with the literary norm, while at the same time developing a few innovations. It also has its own distinctive vocabulary and retains words that are unique to present-day Malayalam, a Dravidian language from Kerala that originated as a dialect of old Tamil around 9th century CE.[80][81] The Tamil dialect used by residents of the Trincomalee District has many similarities with the Jaffna Tamil dialect. The dialect used in Jaffna is the oldest and closest to old Tamil. The long physical isolation of the Tamils of Jaffna has enabled their dialect to preserve ancient features of old Tamil that predate Tolkappiyam,[79] the grammatical treatise on Tamil dated from 3rd century BCE to 10th century CE.[82] Their ordinary speech is closely related to classical Tamil.[79] The Jaffna Tamil dialect and the Indian Tamil dialects are not mutually intelligible,[83] and the former is frequently mistaken for Malayalam by native Indian Tamil speakers.[84] There are also Prakrit loan words that are unique to Jaffna Tamil. So dont lie tamil Sinhala . I do o tliek Sinhalese coming here and lying and spreading flase facts to justify their genocidal agenda. As I have stated earlier there is nothing Tamil about you. |
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“Truth, Justice and Freedom” Since: Feb 09
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Uff, So in short: Jaffna kingdom was established by a violent Tamil invasion in ca. 1250 and then a lot of Tamils came to Sri Lanka. In 1500 the sinhalese took it back? Is that what you are saying? If you are not aware, so the British made these provinces and brought in a lot of Tamils to these areas, as they did to the hill country. |
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Thornhill, Canada |
oh herring cleaner - can you donate some money for your temple in Toronto 30000 bandas cannot raise 60K in 2 years. Maybe they should ask TRO. So refugee why are u begging in Norway when you could be in paradise. |
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“Truth, Justice and Freedom” Since: Feb 09
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You need to take your pills and take a nap. |
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Colombo, Sri Lanka |
Cynaide??? lol |
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Since: Aug 09
Indore, India |
Very honestly spoken, I appreciate that. |
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“"Think Local Beg Global Banda"” Since: Jul 09
Thornhill, Canada |
Windbag have a look - all bandas in the west are herring catchers. http://www.thestar.com/article/687710 http://www.thestar.com/article/692189 |
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Sønderborg, Denmark |
There are people who disrupt every single attempt by those who want things to change, and because of that there are no changes. I'm convienced that people should work with each other to solve the problems and that's the only way to solve all our problems, but it's not possible if you accuse one party and defend the other one. If you really want to see those poor people live in peace, you have to understand that both warring parties are guilty and not defend any of these. |
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“Truth, Justice and Freedom” Since: Feb 09
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I don't know where you stand, Shakti. I don't defend any party. I will never defend any killing. But you have to understand, in a time like this, people tend to be patriotic, even to a state which will kill them eventually. They have no choice. They won't betray their country, no matter who is running it. The more the govt is pushed the harder they will cling to power. So no change will come. Only the Sinhalese can fight the Sinhala chauvinism and racism. If the Tamils in the west fight all Sinhalese, who will be left to fight? Who will win? The ones sitting with power. Do I have to tell who they are? I am trying to convey the causes of the problem. Without going to the root of the problem, we can't solve it. Some say a seperate state will solve this problem. But do you think so? I firmly believe that a seperate state will worsen the situation. Fractions within the Tamil community will fight and kill each other for power. That is already happening in the east. There is only one solution. Supporting the people who are fighting for justice in Sri Lanka. The more we divide and think in ethnic lines, the further we are from a lasting solution. In the future even a seperate state can be negotiated. At present even if Sri Lanka says Yes to a seperate state, India, USA, UK and China will not allow it. |
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Since: Feb 08
Ludlow, UK |
It is all too easy to hate, working for a better tomorrow is always going to be hard, but well worth the battle. I agree with you one hundred percent. |
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“Truth, Justice and Freedom” Since: Feb 09
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I have read some of your posts, and I think you are one of the reasonable people here.
All these Tamil-foreigners in the west don't give a damn about what happens to the people. They want a homeland, so they can go on holidays etc. Look at what they are writing. They don't understand the situation in Sri Lanka and they don't want to understand. Get a book and read the real Tamil history in Sri Lanka. If you don't trust books read old journals, newspapers etc. You will see that the problem is more complex than what the newly rich Tamils in the west say. They don't want to face their own history, because they are ashamed. Instead they blame everything on the Sinhalese and think that will solve everything. |
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Since: Feb 08
Ludlow, UK |
Your take on history does not stand with the facts. We did not make the provinces, they were already there. We just made people who had lived together peacefully for years into enemies. |
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“Truth, Justice and Freedom” Since: Feb 09
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Shakti, I don't know how old you are, or how much you know. My previous 2 posts were also for you.
Read this: http://www.information.dk/191045 The whole issue was handled in the wrong way, by the wrong people for the wrong reasons. |
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East Molesey, UK |
u are absolutly correct. u found a unitary state and u left it as seperate ethnic kingdoms dumb btych better stik to ass fuxing |
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Birmingham, UK |
Hey, only innocent Harini and sweet Puncsy are allowed to speak to Cosmo like that! |
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Sønderborg, Denmark |
I see your points very clear. However, I don't agree with you completely. You say, "in a time like this, people tend to be patriotic...They won't betray their country, no matter who is running it." In a "time like this" people instinctly do and say things which would otherwise be unimaginable. However, this instinctive behaviour is not restricted to the Sinhala people only. Tamils are also controlled by instincts "in a time" when their people are supposedly killed in thousands. You can't expect any logic, it's all instincts. However, I agree with you concerning your point about the Government's behaviour when pushed from all directions. At the end the goverment is the one who decide what is "right" and what is "wrong for it's citizens". And even if 20.000 civilians were killed, the hypocritical UN would forgive the Government as it is pleased by the fact that they were "sacrified" for a "Greater cause". But many people don't understand these dirty politics. |
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Sønderborg, Denmark |
I'm more than happy that you agree with me. |
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