Indonesia on the cusp of greatness?

bureaucracy in Indonesia has made it difficult to do bussiness there. On top of that, corruption has been a high hurdle as well.

I had a couple of friends in sabah who had terrible experience when dealing with indon to start a business..one of my friends told me that he did not mind paying kickbacks several over thousands so long the business could proceed but the money had gone anywhere without a trace..and every level you dealing with, they are corrupt to the core..and surely others who were interested to do business with indon had similar nightmare...

sontoloyo wrote:

I had a couple of friends in sabah who had terrible experience when dealing with indon to start a business..one of my friends told me that he did not mind paying kickbacks several over thousands so long the business could proceed but the money had gone anywhere without a trace..and every level you dealing with, they are corrupt to the core..and surely others who were interested to do business with indon had similar nightmare...

...yeah I too have friends who have had similar experience in Indo. I know some of them as personal friends. So those who don't want to part with their money, better don't invest it in Indo. From Topix, we know how some of the indones behave...( only very few may be good) hihi

Guntur_ wrote:

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...yeah I too have friends who have had similar experience in Indo. I know some of them as personal friends. So those who don't want to part with their money, better don't invest it in Indo. From Topix, we know how some of the indones behave...( only very few may be good) hihi

time and time again, you're rite bro...just like you crushed and smashed indons' head into pieces...hehehehe

look at the mirror,ye all malons,you're just jealeous..hehehehehehehehe,mal gaysial no longer interest place to do business,what u choose?a market with less than 28 millions or a big market with 240 millions people...ooo..come on,at least 2000 new cars emerge in Jakarta everyday,not count it yet in surabaya,bandung,makassar,sema rang,medan, and all great cities of Indonesia,10.000 new laptop&60.000 cellphone sold out everyday ...fyuw, what a great market :D
what abaout malgaysial?you can only sell nasi lemak..wakakakakakakakaka

If Malon don't like to invest in Indonesia....just go away......next please....

foo kee mach cow malon wrote:

look at the mirror,ye all malons,you're just jealeous..hehehehehehehehe,mal gaysial no longer interest place to do business,what u choose?a market with less than 28 millions or a big market with 240 millions people...ooo..come on,at least 2000 new cars emerge in Jakarta everyday,not count it yet in surabaya,bandung,makassar,sema rang,medan, and all great cities of Indonesia,10.000 new laptop&60.000 cellphone sold out everyday ...fyuw, what a great market :D
what abaout malgaysial?you can only sell nasi lemak..wakakakakakakakaka

You have the number of population, but do you have the buying power? hihihi

"Ini Budi" : If Malon don't like to invest in Indonesia....just go away......next please....

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- I don't know about "Malon", but Malaysians can and and do invest in Indonesia, whether you like it or not, as your government is seeking investments from overseas to sustain and expand Indonesia's economy.

Nafi Sahgem wrote:

"Ini Budi" : If Malon don't like to invest in Indonesia....just go away......next please....
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- I don't know about "Malon", but Malaysians can and and do invest in Indonesia, whether you like it or not, as your government is seeking investments from overseas to sustain and expand Indonesia's economy.

We may say that Malaysia has indirectly "invested" alot of $$ in PINDAD, Indo, by buying their products. Otherwise, the weapon maker would have become bankrupt.

Guntur_ wrote:

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We may say that Malaysia has indirectly "invested" alot of $$ in PINDAD, Indo, by buying their products. Otherwise, the weapon maker would have become bankrupt.

heheheheheheh..without u,bangladesh,nepal,vietnam are planing to buy our panser,with our own arm force alone we can provide lot profits 4 pindad.hehehehehehe...dont forget,singapore bought millions munition from us and resell it to other countries as singapore products...hihihihi,wake up lon,our buy capability good enough,i've told u more than 2000 new cars/ a day are flooding road in jakarta only,not count it yet in medan,surabaya,semarang,bandun g,makassar,denpasar and other cities.like i said a good investor always choose big market such our 240 millions population,not a tiny country with less than 28 million..kehkehkhekhekekekekek e...malgaysial gitu loch,kasiaaan :D

foo kee mach cow malon wrote:

<quoted text>heheheheheheh..without u,bangladesh,nepal,vietnam are planing to buy our panser,with our own arm force alone we can provide lot profits 4 pindad.hehehehehehe...dont forget,singapore bought millions munition from us and resell it to other countries as singapore products...hihihihi,wake up lon,our buy capability good enough,i've told u more than 2000 new cars/ a day are flooding road in jakarta only,not count it yet in medan,surabaya,semarang,bandun g,makassar,denpasar and other cities.like i said a good investor always choose big market such
our 240 millions population,not a tiny country with less than 28 million..kehkehkhekhekekekekek e...malgaysial gitu loch,kasiaaan :D

out of the 240 mil people how many can afford to buy new cars? kekekekeke....kek

Guntur_ wrote:

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out of the 240 mil people how many can afford to buy new cars? kekekekeke....kek

I'm not statistic agent,but seeing is believing...cars just example,I'm not talking yet about property,real estate and how fast many mega mall built spreadwide.hehehehehehe..just admitt it you get jealeous,talked that u, malonistas are rich,but forget who still live in "rumah panjang"..hehehehehehehe, how could tiny kedai win against megamall like us?jiakakakakakakakakaak,plase don't buy our weapon...wakakakakakakakaka

foo kee mach cow malon wrote:

<quoted text>I'm not statistic agent,but seeing is believing...cars just example,I'm not talking yet about property,real estate and how fast many mega mall built spreadwide.hehehehehehe..just admitt it you get jealeous,talked that u, malonistas are rich,but forget who still live in "rumah panjang"..hehehehehehehe, how could tiny kedai win against megamall like us?jiakakakakakakakakaak,plase don't buy our weapon...wakakakakakakakaka

terrace houses are modern rumah panjang. Wow...condominiums are rumah panjang constructed upwards due to space constrian. Don't belittle the modern rumah panjang. hihihi
Come and see 1Borneo mall in KKinabalu and discover that you megamalls are only babymalls....hihihi
No, we did'nt buy your weapon. We only gave you money and kept the goods in the storeyard.

Guntur_ wrote:

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terrace houses are modern rumah panjang. Wow...condominiums are rumah panjang constructed upwards due to space constrian. Don't belittle the modern rumah panjang. hihihi
Come and see 1Borneo mall in KKinabalu and discover that you megamalls are only babymalls....hihihi
No, we did'nt buy your weapon. We only gave you money and kept the goods in the storeyard.

kekekekekekekekekekekek...the truth sometimes bitter,if "rumah panjang" in sarawak u call it "a mall" i'm not surprise...kakakakakakakakakaa k,u didnt buy our weapon?ish...ish..ish..truly malonista,juts come to u r nearest AFB,see how much CN.235 TUDM in service and still awaiting more cn-235 MPA finishing in PTDI.how much ur PDRM marine unit bought fast boat from PT.Lundin?jiakakakakakaka...on ce again about our buy capability:we are the biggest users of blackberry and iphone in asia and we should indent to buy ipad bcoz stock less than demand,hihihihihihihihi..just see the world lon,world not as big as KL...wakakakakakakaka

foo kee mach cow malon wrote:

<quoted text>kekekekekekekekekekeke k...the truth sometimes bitter,if "rumah panjang" in sarawak u call it "a mall" i'm not surprise...kakakakakakakakakaa k,u didnt buy our weapon?ish...ish..ish..truly malonista,juts come to u r nearest AFB,see how much CN.235 TUDM in service and still awaiting more cn-235 MPA finishing in PTDI.how much ur PDRM marine unit bought fast boat from PT.Lundin?jiakakakakakaka...on ce again about our buy capability:we are the biggest users of blackberry and iphone in asia and we should indent to buy ipad bcoz stock less than demand,hihihihihihihihi..just see the world lon,world not as big as KL...wakakakakakakaka

Yeah, the truth is sometimes bitter. The fast boats from indon are used to comb indones illegal immigrants and smugllers from entering malaysian territories, that's a truth.
Many indones bought iphones bcoz they could'nt afford to buy laptops, that's another truth.
I believe I have seen the world more than you have. I hope that's also a truth...kekekekek

"Guntur_" : We may say that Malaysia has indirectly "invested" alot of $$ in PINDAD, Indo, by buying their products. Otherwise, the weapon maker would have become bankrupt.

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- And Malaysian firms have already invested quite a bit in the Indonesian oil palm sector too. Not to mention in the ICT sector as well.

Nafi Sahgem wrote:

"Guntur_" : We may say that Malaysia has indirectly "invested" alot of $$ in PINDAD, Indo, by buying their products. Otherwise, the weapon maker would have become bankrupt.
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- And Malaysian firms have already invested quite a bit in the Indonesian oil palm sector too. Not to mention in the ICT sector as well.

yup, and in the rice industry in sulawesi...hihi

For all of you who is trying to belittle Indonesia in this forum, i think you're all just jealous. Indonesia is already an investment grade country for Japan, and Goldman Sachs even group Indonesia as a "buy " country. In ASEAN alone, Indonesia gain the biggest investment of all its members. This prove that Indonesia is once again back on the radar and will be one of the economic powerhouse in the world, considering the fact that Indonesia is already become the 16th biggest economic in the world and still growing faster than all of its ASEAN neighbour. Of course there are still obstacle as it happens too in another developing countries, and even in developing countries as well. So dont trust those hypocrite malaysian who is too afraid to face the fact of the rising of Indonesian economy. They're just envy and too scared. Indonesia economy is alreday the biggest in SEA and it is growing and growing that in 2016 , analyst predict Indonesian economy will surpass South Korea. Beside, Indonesia is already in G-20 countries.... i dont see malaysia in the g-20.

FYI, in malaysia there are also a lot of corruption going on there, but the media dont have the ball to expose the problem, as the government still control the media. Once the media expose some truth, the racist malaysian government would do anything to shut the media...and it's the truth. There is no freedom there, all people are subject to bow to UMNO regulation. Once u have the courage to tell the slightest truth, the Racist Malaysian Govt will immediately shut you in any possible way. Just look at Anwar Ibrahim, Altantuya, and ,many more. They even kill Altantuya..what a barbaric country. But strangely, no malaysian is brave enough to change the situation, they only accept thing as the way umno spoonfed to their mouth. And not to mention, the Malaysia is the only country in the planet that still applying Apartheid. No wonder so many smart chinese went abroad to seek better environment.

For all of you malaysian, you can reply this post anyway you want, but the world already know the truth about your country even when your govt is trying hard to conceal it. Enough said

ps : the malaysian are some of the most hypocrite people in the world ever. They cover their head, as well as they covered their heart with so many prejudice.

We Indonesia dont need malaysia, as our economy is already much much bigger than malaysia. malaysians are just too chicken to face the fact that Indonesian is becoming the major economic player in the world..... they build their national car...andwhat happens now? it's on the brink of destruction ...hehehehehe so much for proton....the ugliest car ever,,,,

rebirth888 wrote:

We Indonesia dont need malaysia, as our economy is already much much bigger than malaysia. malaysians are just too chicken to face the fact that Indonesian is becoming the major economic player in the world..... they build their national car...andwhat happens now? it's on the brink of destruction ...hehehehehe so much for proton....the ugliest car ever,,,,

Beri bukti dong.... Kalau ekonomi kalian lebih baik, mana buktinya??? Ngak nampak bukti ne sebabnya kenapa rakyat kalian masih lebih 1 juta orang masih bekerja disini??? Saya pun keturunan Indon juga jadi, usah tipu sih. saya tahu, yang maju hanya Pulau Jawa aja, cuba pergi ke sulawesi & Kalimantan, aduh rakyatnya masih ramai yg miskin benaran.. Ini fakta dong, Mahu cari kerja aja perlu wang 5 juta rupiah, sini ndak perlu. hanya bawa sijil uda boleh diterima kerja. Kalau di indon macam mana keadaannya????? Jadi, lebih baik kita usah repot2 mau fikir perang segala, lebih baik kita majukan negara sendiri dong... Betul ngak... Kan baik kalau 2 negara terus jadi sahabat..