Anger in Croatia over Gotovina, Markac ruling

Apr 17, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Balkan Times

The UN war crimes tribunal's verdict in the case of two former Croatian generals has drawn angry protests in their home country.

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truth

Australia

#1 Apr 18, 2011
Jel nas cujete Vi ste

Belgrade, Serbia

#2 Apr 18, 2011
šljivančanin na slobodi ;)
truth

Australia

#3 Apr 18, 2011
nobody care in his soul he is killer its just for hell according real God justice!
Only killer like him can be very proud on genocide killing and systematic destroying..
&fe ature=related
no sense about justice which lead supporters of genocide Serbian friends who give green light and help for 1000 years created genocide over Croatia as well claim Croatian CROWN which is not belong to poor thief nema ich
yes Jesus say ''odlazi sotono nepoznajem te''

jes program nazi serboklanje 4 and 5 coming again
very soon 13' like never before
all prophets describe ''devil from Balkan''
then suddenly will be happened ''real god intervention on last day'' against your killers!
Jel nas cujete Vi ste

Belgrade, Serbia

#4 Apr 18, 2011
ljute seljacine
John

Australia

#5 Apr 18, 2011
Ante Gotovina should be free! Because his innocent!
He defended his own country as any other man would in war.
buzz

Lane Cove, Australia

#6 Apr 18, 2011
Robert English, Professor and Deputy Director, School of International Relations, University of Southern California

1. Croatia will “cope” with the verdict/sentence because it has no choice. It has (and will continue) to provoke anger, outrage, etc. at the ICTY for its judgment on what most Croatians view as a legitimate war to defend/liberate their territory, and on an individual (Gotovina) whom most see as a hero of that war.

Croatians, and those who sympathize with them in other countries, are understandably furious at the apparent injustice of such a stiff sentence (24 years) for an operation that resulted in the loss of a few hundred civilian lives to liberate territory that had been taken earlier at the cost of many thousands of civilian Croatian lives by Serb armies/paramilitaries whose leaders received much shorter (less than 10 years) sentences. In other words, the original aggressors killed many times more Croats, but the defenders are much more harshly judged/punished.

It is not only the apparent double standard in punishment, it is the apparent lack of understanding of the judges that Croatia’s was an essentially defensive–not offensive–war.

2. Croatia is well along in the process of joining the EU, for which many sacrifices have been made and which promises significant benefits to the country in the future. So, as I say, Croatia will ultimately “cope” with this verdict but it will leave a very sour taste for years to come. Still, if part of the anger is not only at an excessive sentence on Gotovina but also at the unjust equating of the Croatian and Serbian campaigns/wars, the best way to show that Croatia is “better” than Serbia and truly part of Europe (and not the Balkans) is to join Europe and leave Serbia behind. And that means the EU.

So I do not expect this to derail Croatia’s accession to the EU, but will certainly lower still further many Croats’ view of European justice. It does not seem impartial, balanced, fair, but rather biased, cynical, and ultimately “political.” Croatians will get over it, and like other states that have joined the EU (from Poland to Romania) popular disillusion will continue to grow.
Jel nas cujete Vi ste

Belgrade, Serbia

#7 Apr 19, 2011
ljute seljacine
kreso

Geelong, Australia

#8 Apr 19, 2011
people always expected an unfair result because the eu masterminds want one big happy family, so to appease the serbs, some Croatians had to do major time.
The result from the hague did not surprise me one bit - what the people are mad about is the Croatian communists who sold the generals down the river for their false idol: eu membership.

anyone who thinks eu is some sort of magic bullet that will fix all of Croatias problems is sadly mistaken.

Croatias fortunes can only improve once all communists are purged once and for all, starting with kosor and josipovic. We've just had one of the worst setbacks in Croatian history and a few days later they are at jasenovac spreading their lies about NDH again - everytime something looks bad for the communists, first thing is to try and deflect attention and carp on about NDH. Guilty conscience is really eating away at these opportunistic scum.
buzz wrote:
Robert English, Professor and Deputy Director, School of International Relations, University of Southern California
1. Croatia will “cope” with the verdict/sentence because it has no choice. It has (and will continue) to provoke anger, outrage, etc. at the ICTY for its judgment on what most Croatians view as a legitimate war to defend/liberate their territory, and on an individual (Gotovina) whom most see as a hero of that war.
Croatians, and those who sympathize with them in other countries, are understandably furious at the apparent injustice of such a stiff sentence (24 years) for an operation that resulted in the loss of a few hundred civilian lives to liberate territory that had been taken earlier at the cost of many thousands of civilian Croatian lives by Serb armies/paramilitaries whose leaders received much shorter (less than 10 years) sentences. In other words, the original aggressors killed many times more Croats, but the defenders are much more harshly judged/punished.
It is not only the apparent double standard in punishment, it is the apparent lack of understanding of the judges that Croatia’s was an essentially defensive–not offensive–war.
2. Croatia is well along in the process of joining the EU, for which many sacrifices have been made and which promises significant benefits to the country in the future. So, as I say, Croatia will ultimately “cope” with this verdict but it will leave a very sour taste for years to come. Still, if part of the anger is not only at an excessive sentence on Gotovina but also at the unjust equating of the Croatian and Serbian campaigns/wars, the best way to show that Croatia is “better” than Serbia and truly part of Europe (and not the Balkans) is to join Europe and leave Serbia behind. And that means the EU.
So I do not expect this to derail Croatia’s accession to the EU, but will certainly lower still further many Croats’ view of European justice. It does not seem impartial, balanced, fair, but rather biased, cynical, and ultimately “political.” Croatians will get over it, and like other states that have joined the EU (from Poland to Romania) popular disillusion will continue to grow.
melb hrvat

Laverton, Australia

#10 Apr 22, 2011
gotovina will remain a croatian hero forever for defending croatia from jugo/serb occupiers and then liberating the occupied ereas
melb hrvat

Laverton, Australia

#11 Apr 22, 2011
as for you serbs dont worry you will still be living in that rubbish dump of a country called serbia croatia kosova montenegro macedonia and bosnia are gone forever
truth

Australia

#12 Apr 23, 2011
&fe ature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
justice for rights not yet exist brother Croats..its political gulag set up..
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
melb hrvat

Laverton, Australia

#13 Apr 23, 2011
albert einstein wrote in the new york times before world war two that croats were living in a serb run yugolslav prison after the serbs created a dictatorship and killed croat leader radic in 1928 this is a fact all serbs have is lies and propaganda
truth

Australia

#14 Apr 23, 2011
http://www.croatians.com/EINSTEIN%20AND%20CRO...
''n''
en
Einstein
yes you need think as Einstein
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13127145
coat of arm Kate
its look as zir=Hrast or Dub on my language
according
CROWN CRO W ''N''

poor explanation
first start as child evry child have soul as innocent
innocent=joy
whan you say with joy joke=comic
we say ''glup si kao tocak''
slovenian brothers ''glup si kao bukva=hrast=dub''
transform into meaning now
letters and numbers
hrast=strah some leter
zir pir as peoem pir = celebrity marriage
Jesus say''primaj uvrede razborito'' in this case have meaning hide btween letters because cro language transform Crown Cro w n
Hrast=strah
http://www.google.com.au/search...
strah=scare
glup=stupid
glup =as some transform= hrast

gulp= must in family hereditary line
find
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Welf
i always don't have sjova=letters
but does meter have meaning
find
words ''tocak''=''wheel''= vili=william proper pronounce words
still does meter have symbol meaning
meaning is not called others nonsense name
find
behind secret
because of that i asked forgiveness
i can't find deference calculation without right on spot that can be great advocacy for secure something..
i wrote that last knight when i read
bbc news coat of arm
calculated on my language words crown cro w n
according what i can see on photo
not be there
i find and wrote last night on papers
ah my memory
meaning of dub dub dub dub its mean deference somebody follow or listen must be or can be some org. to
which one
i don't know
wheel..what a about wheel
and dub
http://www.google.com.au/search...
tocak=vil=will
http://www.google.com.au/search...
truth

Australia

#15 Apr 23, 2011
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13127145
http://www.google.com.au/search...
bbc make me sick last night
dub dub dub daba daba kuma Mare
tocak=wilwheel wil
zir=pir
pir= celebrity
beter check then happened
and phone numbers connected for what?
i don't know
must be something
http://aintitspiffy.com/images/nokiae712/spif...
gulp or glup
number g as 71220
or simular ah kako je ovo izaslo ni u snu se nisam nadala
davli sve pripremili vidis li ti to
http://aintitspiffy.com/images/nokiae712/spif...
if not now
but kate is target future
as assasin from whom
protect her beter then mother vili
ja nemogu racunat ah
navindalo me zanos danas na srbe a zasto vidis li ti to e pa bas
bolje sprijecit nego lijecit
a kako ces kad si daleko
i savremena tehnologija da te dragi bog sacuva opasna..
truth

Australia

#16 Apr 23, 2011
sad se zbog ovog osjecam 42 temperature ah
mrak mi udara u glavu don't be afraid
just chexck
evry light where are you traveling desconect green yellow red..not work light trafic at all..decconected evry semafor where are you goping with car..check tocak..not used phone personaly not kate vili..not phone numbers letters not very close
http://aintitspiffy.com/images/nokiae712/spif...
kruzi mi u stomaku od nervoze i u glavi ah
its so easy evry building lights to ah satelite evry building antena ah evrything magnet
don't be afraid check prople
Jel nas cujete Vi ste

Belgrade, Serbia

#17 Apr 23, 2011
...ljute seljacine
ivan

Croatia

#18 Apr 23, 2011
LJUDI KOMENTIRAJU DOGADAJ ALI JE ZANIMLJIVO DA IH IMA PUNO KOJI NEMAJU POJMA O STVARNIM DOGADAJIMA KOJI SU SE DOGODILI .I SAM SAM BIO SUDIONIK OLUJE ,VIDIO DOSTA I SRPSKE I NASE DJUBRADI KOJA NEBI SMJELA UOPCE HODATI PO ZEMLJI A KAMOLI BITI PRIPADNIK CASNE VOJSKE ILI SLICNO,A SADA ZBOG TIH"BORACA S PRIKOLICOM"OSUDJUJU NEVINE LJUDE .POSTAVLJAM PITANJE ZASTO SE NE POKRECE INDIVIDUALNA ODGOVORNOST POJEDINACA ?
truth

Australia

#19 Apr 23, 2011
very naiv
another program exist very well prepare as they prepare before!
Now way you think that that poor few individual is wrong or ordinary solders which according rule have to go as young adolst in army does meter which one!
Still program 4 and 5 exist
revelation
EU=7 glava i 10 rogova plus one king which they call UN

now neludi niti ..di
rekle bi stare bake
dok te mami secerom te hrani a kad te primami i kruha ti zabrani..which new law find out and which program come then lac then change mind leaders too and so on..now
don't be very naiv
find secrets how they are prepare on front

dictators don't want go peacefully
say what

Beograd, Serbia

#20 Apr 23, 2011
very ..in july for bosnia
truth

Australia

#21 Apr 23, 2011

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