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3 There are no guarantees in life - particularly from oil exploration. However, it seems like mining for oil shale in the Rockies is a slam dunk particularly with the success that the Canadians have had in Alberta. BTW, Canada is the U.S.'s largest energy trading partner. Also, the positive economic impact for Colorado and the surrounding states would be enormous if oil shale could be extracted efficiently. I guess treehuggers, like Senator Salazar, rather see Americans freeze during the winter and be unemployed. As for the next election, ignore party labels and vote for conservative candidates. Drill here, Drill now, Save money. |
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1 Typical response from your ilk. When not in agreement, when no intelligent argument can be made, insult. I sincerely hope you do not use heating oil for your abode, but if you do I advise you to take advantage of $5 oil now. With our friends the Dems stonewalling in Congress on the drilling question $5 will look awful cheap in November. Sure, it will be fun to blame the big, bad, greedy, corrupt oil companies & the 2 oil men in the White House, but it won't put oil in your tank. On the bright side all the New England kids are going to be thankful this Christmas when their presents consist of sweaters, blankets & long underwear. To wear in the house. Just like the good old days. |
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2 Yeah thats right its the dems fault for high oil prices. You belong to the bottom 20% of this country. Noone but you silly few believe that this has nothing to do with Bush and the oil companies. The higer the prices go the more profit they make. Even you can do simple math....Right? Morons |
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2 they play the "transfer the blame" game knowing full well it's our war policies that have caused this spike. The weak dollar plays a role also and you can chalk that up to wild spending for oil wars. The proxy war on Iran has the oil speculators salivating while we pay the price. |
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1 Once again, I will correct your bad information. The oil shale in America's West has nothing in common geologically with the oilsands of Alberta. Shale contains kerogen, a precurser to oil, with far less BTU content than the bitumen in oilsands. As the article points out, many attempts have been made to extract the kerogen from the rock, none successful to date. Alberta also has shale, but it is not currently economic to develop. What they are developing, and exporting to us, is oil from oilsands, a bitumen, with far more energy value than kerogen. Go look into EROEI. It is at the core of the problem. It might help you understand this better, and not speak glibly of 'slam dunks'. Don't we have enough sports analogies already?? The only real solutions offered so far come from Al Gore and T Boone Pickens. And it's the Republicans who express defeatism about their solutions. You are grasping at straws, straws you have very little understanding of. "A nod is as good as a wink, to a blind horse." |
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3 Aside from destroying the economy so nobody needs oil, what are algores solutions? None of his suggestions (not solutions) are economically viable, even with oil at it's current state, nor are most of his ideas technically feasible. If he's so great, why is he only able to produce about 4% of his electric needs at his home with his roof covered in solar panels? Very few people have the kind of money to make that capital investment, either. |
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1 Democrats, generally: Don't drill anywhere other than in the small percentage of "approved" areas, invest in alternative energy technologies, and tax Big Oil's profits. Which approach is more likely to put cheaper gasoline in your tank? Like it or not, we're a petroleum-based economy and will be for many years to come. Yes, we should be investing in non-carbon emitting power sources, but to stifle attempts to increase domestic oil production capacity is irresponsible and extremely unrealistic. |
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1 I find this dichotomy only partially true and the "generally" does not do it justice. Who wants to drill off shore? The vase swath of red states in the middle of the country that see the ocean maybe once a decade. Who doesn't? The people on the coast (including our conservative brethen in FLA). Putting party labels on these issues does nothing and just causes a string of worthless broadsides (on both sides) |
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There is an excellent interview from NPR's On Point that provides some good solutions for global energy
http://www.onpointradio.org/shows/2008/07/200... |
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Oh goody, let's make Al Gore's personal energy footprint the 'straw man' and throw our hands up and say we can't possibly develop and deploy new technologies to reduce our dependence on oil. All because Al Gore's an energy hog. Instad of attacking the messenger, consider the message: If we don't start moving in the direction of clean energy, things are going to get very bleak on the energy front. After all, even Bush realized the benefits of clean power. He practices it, but doesn't preach it. Odd. You and I agree on the need for nuclear power plants. Hundreds of them. You and I will be dead before the transition to non-fossil fuel based energy is complete, but we need a major committment, as a nation, to move in that direction. That's Gore's message. Stop the foot dragging. Follow Pickens ideas for wind power through the 'wind tunnel' that is the American West. Bush feeds the illusion that all we need to do is drill for more oil. I think you know better than to believe that. I don't see why you are against a major committment towards clean energy. You are generally savvy about this area. It's true it's an expensive technology for the average household, but it's like everything else, if it becomes mass marketed, with tax breaks, the costs would drop rapidly. Only took a short vacation, hiking in VT. Thanks for asking. |
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Or conversely, you could say gas and heating oil is now "JUST AS EXPENSIVE" as solar and wind. So why not start switching over to clean, inexhaustible resources now? At least we'll use it here, unlike the stuff we drill for, which just goes on the global market. |
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So help me out here. Do all these guys sit in a back room somewhere and say "Alright, it's that time again, where someone in this room has to make a stupid statement, pass the hat and take a number, sorry Ken, you lost. Go on up there and say something stupid for the team, you go Ken. No Ken it's not Nancy's turn. Man up Ken. Do us proud."
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I agree that shale oil could be a mirage. It is for that reason that we must open the 80% of the outer continental shelf that Democratic leaders refuse to consider for public leasing. Pelosi, Reid and other starry-eyed idiots seem to think that starving the nation of oil and gas will result in some miraculous transformation through which the country will run on solar panels and windmills within a few years. Their views personify economic illiteracy and a complete disdain for anyone who doesn't share their radical agenda. The Republicans screwed up badly over the past 8 years. We now pay the price by having another bunch of arrogant elitists make ridiculous decisions at our expense.
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1 It also seems all you drill now types always neglect to mention the millions of acres that are approved for drilling already, and not being used. |
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I do not disagree about clean, renewable energy sources being a good idea by any means. I do disagree with how the leftists in this country want to pursue it, by taxing the sh!t out of us working people, and with spurious claims of stuff like anthropogenic global warming, etc. If it's going to work, it should work through private industry. Aside from waging war, there is NOTHING the government can do more efficiently than private industry. |
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You really believe india and china are under contract to buy oil at prices higher than we pay? Where do you get your info? Demonrat underground or or MoveOn.org asm? Seriously, dude, if you are tring to make a point, at least use correct facts. Also, it won't take 10 years to help out. Look what Bush's annnouncement did last week, and your argument is blown out of the water. |
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