Rail critics utilize power of pen

If you notice most of the people at this rally are Haole. They probably live in town and not on the west side of Oahu and don't have to commute to and from work every day.....

Let the rail go on to be built for everyone else who lives on the Leeward side....

Aloha,

Clayton Lum

I am against the Mayor using a veto to circumvent the Council, but I wish the petition was more unbiased, not run by the Hotlane folks. The Mayor is pushing a 4 billion dollar boondoggle that won't make traffic congestion any better. SOMEBODY should stop him. Rail will never pay for itself. It will need huge subsidies to maintain. I'm not for Hotlanes either. I'd rather expand and improve roadways, fix the sewers, put overhead wires underground, build decent bikeways, and improve the Bus so more students, retirees and tourists would ride. If we want to subsidize business, and get people out of cars, we should renovate residential and industrial areas in the dense urban core of Honolulu. We should beef up security and streamline mass transit there, removing eyesores, and building beautiful new commercial and residential areas upwards. Building more suburbs out west and expecting families to take rail to schools and jobs in town is nuts.

I think this will work.

I think this would help with the traffic system it already has. There's too many cars on the road and not enough road. The island is only so big, and there's not much room to expand anything. So this is an alternative.

Rail has promises. But Mufi's route doesn't serve anyone but his cronies and land developers, especially out in Kapolei where they can have a disneyland monorail to Ala Moana.

a) Doesn't go to UH-Manoa which has 20,000 students enrolled and 10,000 employees. Midpac, St. Francis, Punahou and other private schools also nearby in this area which have choke parents driving their kids to school every morning.

b) Doesn't go to the airport. Large work force plus travelers, both tourists and residents, can utilize. Tourists alone would alleviate a ton of traffic off Nimitz and H1 during the late afternoon to early evening when mainland flights arrive and depart.

c) Doesn't go to Pearl Harbor entrance -- Naval shipyard is the largest blue collar work center on the island.

d)(recently) Won't even have a stop at future UH-West Oahu, even though the whole area consists of undeveloped land right now. Can't get any better than this to make the plans right from the beginning. Proves that Mufi doesn't give a damn other than diverting the stations to receive his future kickbacks.

-- Also I'm in Kapolei, not Kailua-Kona.

Although I have some misgivings about the mass transit project as it now is being developed (mainly, I think there is going to be too many stations), I would not like to be associated with the creeps that cooked this petition up or support it.
Such as Dr. Panic, who has not done much in a productive way to mitigate our traffic gridlock and other special interest lobbyists that are behind this misguided plot.

THe wisest decision would be to build a mini-version of the proposed Mass Transit System.. perhaps a modular introduction to serve the most needed part of Oahu.

Do we need it? NO. Can we afford it? NO. Can we maintain it? Definitely NO. Nuff said!

aloha Lum --- you comment that you noticed that most of the people at this rally are Haole.

Lum if you are living on the mainland and you are not Hawaiian --- I would say that you are a loudmouth haole yourself

I think the scariest thing is the story about the transit station at the UH West Oahu campus unfolded.

Seems proof positive to me that the whole thing was slanted to provide Horton with a special incentive and encourage the build out of 10,000 additional houses.

Tis started out as a way to reduce traffic from the west side. Now it's proven it was to enable building 10,000 more houses on that side.

We need a vote.

The last thing we need is a bunch of uniformed voters [and don't kid yourself you don't have to know anything to have an opinion and vote] setting important policy. the shallow understanding and comprehension of the Stop Rail Now [SRN] means the group should be renamed Stupid Ranting [K]now Nothings. That the routes are ill chosen is a reason to change the routes not abandon mass transit. think about it the next time you're on the H1 at 430 and imagine something like BART zipping by while you cook in your car warming the planet with your exhaust and spending $4.40 a gallon doing it.

These are the same old clowns who have been pushing hot lanes for over five years. "Talk about my way or nothing"...these guys are the worst.

Hey, CAT...Utah is NOT going to vote on rail for Honolulu. I can guarantee it. Maybe you can get one of their T shirts for wax your car!

clayton lum wrote:

If you notice most of the people at this rally are Haole. They probably live in town and not on the west side of Oahu and don't have to commute to and from work every day.....
Let the rail go on to be built for everyone else who lives on the Leeward side....
Aloha,
Clayton Lum

A WONDERFULLY prejudice comment. I am haole.. and if I said that about anyone else.. I'd be sued in court. Keep your ignorant prejudice butt in Minnesota. Signed: White boy whose home is Hawaii

khi wrote:

The last thing we need is a bunch of uniformed voters [and don't kid yourself you don't have to know anything to have an opinion and vote] setting important policy. the shallow understanding and comprehension of the Stop Rail Now [SRN] means the group should be renamed Stupid Ranting [K]now Nothings. That the routes are ill chosen is a reason to change the routes not abandon mass transit. think about it the next time you're on the H1 at 430 and imagine something like BART zipping by while you cook in your car warming the planet with your exhaust and spending $4.40 a gallon doing it.

I think they know a whole lot more than you think.

Why not put it to a vote? If you're pro-rail, you ought to be confident that people will see that the rail is a good thing, an vote accordingly.

If rail loses the vote, well....then that means the people were not convinced that the cost benefit ratio was positive.

Hawaii is not alone in the traffic issue. The Dwight D. Eisenhower interstate system was not built to handle the kind of growth America has experienced. All states, and all major cities are experiencing the same problems Honolulu is,, and the simple fact is.. we; like many other metros, have outgrown our infrastructure. If anyone has the perfect solution to this problem, I would love to hear it.. as I am sure the rest of the world would too

Just check the home addresses of these nitwits, in all likelihood they tend to feel there is nothing in it for them, in short it’s a very selfish movement to stop it. These “fundamentalists� although dressed in Aloha shirts have brothers in Afghanistan and polygamist camps in Texas, these groups just cannot stand progress.
I don’t think you’ll see their signs on the cars stuck in traffic on the way home to Waianae or Mililani anytime soon.
Let’s not stand in the way of progress. A secondary cause is Hawaii is heading towards recession; construction of this rail will stimulate the economic situation of every citizen in this State. If Rene Munsho hadn’t stopped it in the early nineties we would not suffered the recession we experienced in the mid nineties.
Rail is good for everybody.

I guess it will be okay not to build the Rail system. No DOE grads in Hawai'i can even pass the trade unions' equivalent of a 7th grade math test to become a journeyman carpenter etc. The unions are recruiting on the mainland. Plus young potential local workers have no work ethic say the trade unions, i.e. they're incredibly lazy.
Jojo

It's always haoles protesting. Asians (AJAs) as part of their culture don't like to display emotion or be different from the norm. That's why they always go with the status quo. They are afraid to "stand out" from the norm. Look at our legislature, state offices and the DOE...nothing ever gets done.
Jojo
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CLAYTON LUM QUOTED:
If you notice most of the people at this rally are Haole. They probably live in town and not on the west side of Oahu and don't have to commute to and from work every day.....

Let the rail go on to be built for everyone else who lives on the Leeward side....

clayton lum wrote:

If you notice most of the people at this rally are Haole. They probably live in town and not on the west side of Oahu and don't have to commute to and from work every day.....
Let the rail go on to be built for everyone else who lives on the Leeward side....
Aloha,
Clayton Lum

Mr Lum -
Why don't you keep your racist comments to yourself. You don't have to deal with any of this.