Flyers beat Islanders but lose Danny Briere again

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Red Wings25 wrote:

I knew they brought Briere back too soon. Yea he scored today and the other game, but when you have an abdominal tear, and you're supposed to be out 3-4 weeks, you stay out that long. You don't come after 2 weeks, no matter how good you feel. Now he has a groin injury, though they didn't say how severe it is. The Flyers better handle this better and give him enough time to heal, since the Flyers have enough depth at center to make up for it.

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dmc wrote:

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Geez, seems like the injury bug really likes to hit the Flyers star players. Last year Gagne and this year Brier (although not as bad).
Sometimes it's a little hard to tell how well a player has healed up. I know that some players heal quickly.
P.S. when you play us soon, watch out for Grabovski and Schenn. Not household names but have been performing well. Hey, I heard you traded Downie to Tampa Bay, what do you think of that deal?

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Red Wings25 wrote:

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yea, you're telling me...I've been a Flyers fan all my life...for some reason or another, the Flyers always seem to get hit the hardest with injuries, although, the Pens have gotten hit hard this year and are missing Gonchar and Whitney. The reason why I called the Flyers medical staff out is because they are notorious for not handling injuries well (see: Eric Lindros, Keith Primeau, and Jeremy Roenick). Primeau and Lindros' careers ended because the Flyers medical staff didn't handle their injuries right and rushed them back too quickly.
As for Downie, I don't mind the trade because I never really was a big fan of him. I appreciated his hard-nosed attitude and his will to impress the coaches, but he's just a knucklehead right now making knucklehead mistakes with the puck. I feel, though, that he'll become a really good player with Tampa, given the fact that they don't have as much offensive depth as the Flyers do, and he'll eventually have a position there. Besides, the player got in return, along with pick, makes us the winner in this draft. We're getting a defenseman who put up 11 goals and 31 assists in his rookie year with the Sharks and who won the award for the best college player in 2006. Another trade I'm calling for is Scott Hartnell, Randy Jones, our prospect Andreas Nodl, and a pick for Jay Bouwmeester(Florida). I know that sounds like alot but I didn't agree with Jones getting a 2.75 cap hit over the summer for two years, Hartnell is making too much money(4.2MM cap hit) for his kind of production, and James VanRiemsdyke will be ready to step up next year and make an impact. Andreas Nodl will develop into a pretty good player, but we also have Claude Giroux to use in place of him (when Giroux comes up).
Right now, I'm all about bolstering the defense, because that's what the flyers lack there, is depth. They have Timonen and Coburn on the same line, but after that it gets shakey with Vaananen, Alberts, Kukkonen, Sbisa. Parent and Jones are on LTIR, and the Flyers just got Carle (who in my opinion, could turn out to be another Braydon Coburn). If it means giving up some offense to really shore up the defense, I'll accept it.

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What about goaltending? I hear Biron has been inconsistant. As for Downie, maybe in Tampa he can cool off a bit cause he can go overboard with his antics at times (suspension last year for brutal hit).

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everytime we think we have a goaltender we are very quickly proven wrong. they either were supposed to be good and really really weren't,(vanbeisbruck, pelletier, hackett, etc.), got it done in regular season but couldn't handle the playoffs (cechmanek, esche) or fooled with an outstanding post season only to come back the next year and look awful (boucher, biron). it's ridiculous. i don't think we'll ever have a good goaltender. haha so yea, biron isn't making me feel too confident right now, and nittymaki certainly isn't the answer

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Red Wings25 wrote:

I knew they brought Briere back too soon. Yea he scored today and the other game, but when you have an abdominal tear, and you're supposed to be out 3-4 weeks, you stay out that long. You don't come after 2 weeks, no matter how good you feel. Now he has a groin injury, though they didn't say how severe it is. The Flyers better handle this better and give him enough time to heal, since the Flyers have enough depth at center to make up for it.

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dmc wrote:

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Geez, seems like the injury bug really likes to hit the Flyers star players. Last year Gagne and this year Brier (although not as bad).
Sometimes it's a little hard to tell how well a player has healed up. I know that some players heal quickly.
P.S. when you play us soon, watch out for Grabovski and Schenn. Not household names but have been performing well. Hey, I heard you traded Downie to Tampa Bay, what do you think of that deal?

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temple2008 wrote:

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everytime we think we have a goaltender we are very quickly proven wrong. they either were supposed to be good and really really weren't,(vanbeisbruck, pelletier, hackett, etc.), got it done in regular season but couldn't handle the playoffs (cechmanek, esche) or fooled with an outstanding post season only to come back the next year and look awful (boucher, biron). it's ridiculous. i don't think we'll ever have a good goaltender. haha so yea, biron isn't making me feel too confident right now, and nittymaki certainly isn't the answer

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dmc wrote:

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What about goaltending? I hear Biron has been inconsistant. As for Downie, maybe in Tampa he can cool off a bit cause he can go overboard with his antics at times (suspension last year for brutal hit).

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Red Wings25 wrote:

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For now, we're going to have to stick with what we got, unfortunately. However, I've heard rumors that our GM Holmgren was interested in getting Atlanta prospect Ondrej Pavelec. I, however, wouldn't mind seeing them go after Manny Fernandez from Boston, since Tim Thomas is their backup...but, I don't if he'll be the answer.

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Kevin_A wrote:

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He was OK, nothing more. Stevens hated him and wanted to get rid of him. I think he made to many dumb mistakes anyway and usually let his anger cluod his better judgement which hurt the team.

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Red Wings25 wrote:

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For now, we're going to have to stick with what we got, unfortunately. However, I've heard rumors that our GM Holmgren was interested in getting Atlanta prospect Ondrej Pavelec. I, however, wouldn't mind seeing them go after Manny Fernandez from Boston, since Tim Thomas is their backup...but, I don't if he'll be the answer.

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dmc wrote:

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Don't forget you can also get Nikoli Khabibulen. I think he's on waivers right now.

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dmc wrote:

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Don't forget you can also get Nikoli Khabibulen. I think he's on waivers right now.

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Dos Equis wrote:

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Hello Red, Jury is still out on Fernandez here in Boston. He had what was probably his best game as a Bruin in Buffalo a couple games ago but hasn't played enough to show any consistency. Thomas isn't the back-up anymore as he's shown for a few years now that he's the real deal, no matter how unsettling his style of play appears.
I'm not sure if the B's are going to showcase Manny and trade him at the deadline or if they'll keep him for the rest of the season. Rask is good but I still think he's another year away from being ready gor the big show.
So, what do you think of Metro thus far? Has he lived up to my predictions?

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Red Wings25 wrote:

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Khabibulin is way better than Biron but he also has a 6.75MM cap hit and in order for the Flyers to get that they would have to dump Hartnell and Jones (who still isn't back from LTIR). I think Nikolai is 35 now, too. He's not the as durable as Brodeur, so it makes me wonder if he's capable of putting up the numbers he put up in Tampa. I don't know...for now I'd rather upgrade the Defense by getting Bouwmeester and then have Stevens fired.
To Dos Equis: I've been really impressed with the B's play so far. They really man handled Montreal tonight. Congratulations on finally beating those guys.

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Kevin_A wrote:

TAKE HARTNELL NOW - DOD YOU SHE THAT SHIT IN THE SHOOTOUT LAST NIGHT???? I literally could have done better than that last night. That was just pathetic.