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Panthers jettison McLean, Stewart

Full story: South Florida Sun-Sentinel

The Panthers placed forward Brett McLean on waivers Monday and are prepared to buy out his contract if another team doesn't claim him today.

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RED BARON

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Jun 30, 2009
 
Mclean and Stewart should have been jettisoned two years ago. Finally this team makes some moves I can get behind.
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Jun 30, 2009
 
It sounds like Sexton has a plan. I don't want to say that I'm optimistic, but at least it's something other than the usual non-statements from Panthers management.
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Jun 30, 2009
 
RED BARON wrote:
Mclean and Stewart should have been jettisoned two years ago. Finally this team makes some moves I can get behind.
McLean was a perfect example of Jacque Martin's poor player personnel moves. Yes, he should have been gone before. I would have much preferred to see them keep Repik up in the run for a playoff berth. Stewart was a disappointment. He was highly thought of at the time of his draft year, with some scouts placing him on par with Horton. He never developed and I believe his conditioning was also brought into question a few years ago. I met him once and he seemed like a nice guy.

Notice the continued housecleaning of various remnants of the JM era? First assistant coaching changes, now roster moves. DeBoer and Sexton may have been guys hired by Jacques, but they are not following his script anymore. They've got a new script, which I think is based largely on the way DeBoer wants the team to play and the kind of players he needs to execute his system. As for the few remaining bits and pieces, I've said often that I was never a Peltonen fan, but this past season he was a different player. I wouldn't be upset to see him come back for one more year. Dvorak is another guy who at the right price is worthwhile, especially since he can play on the PK and he did produce 15 goals and 21 assists last season. As a 3rd or 4th line guy, he'd be good to keep, plus he already knows DeBoer's system and that is an advantage over bringing in someone new to play on the bottom two lines.

Best move of the offseason? No question it was Jacques Martin leaving to go to the Habs as their coach. If he were still here, this team would be still stuck in the mud. At least we are starting to see some traction and movement towards what appears to be a cohesive plan. A big thanks to Bob Gainey!
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Jun 30, 2009
 
USA Today - Monday June 29, 2009

Page 2, article about Denis Potvin being fired in a cost cutting move.

"Potvin was the color analyst since the team's inception in 1993. But the days of team's broadcasters just calling games are over in today's economy Panthers President Michael Yormark says. He wants broadcasters to be embassadors in the community and to schmooze with fans and sponsors"

Verbatim. puke.

So dont be suprised to see Goldy out there between periods shooting t-shirts over the glass with the Panther Patrol, as the Panthers lose 50 games, and finish 11th in the East.

It never occured to MY or AC, to win a few games & make a deep playoff run......

As long as 466 dummies still show up at Panther games, they can make money on concerts, rodeo's & real estate
and write off the hockey team as a tax loss.

And how's that big Panther GM search going?
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Jun 30, 2009
 
AC Default Schemes Inc wrote:
USA Today - Monday June 29, 2009
Page 2, article about Denis Potvin being fired in a cost cutting move.
"Potvin was the color analyst since the team's inception in 1993. But the days of team's broadcasters just calling games are over in today's economy Panthers President Michael Yormark says. He wants broadcasters to be embassadors in the community and to schmooze with fans and sponsors"
Verbatim. puke.
So dont be suprised to see Goldy out there between periods shooting t-shirts over the glass with the Panther Patrol, as the Panthers lose 50 games, and finish 11th in the East.
It never occured to MY or AC, to win a few games & make a deep playoff run......
As long as 466 dummies still show up at Panther games, they can make money on concerts, rodeo's & real estate
and write off the hockey team as a tax loss.
And how's that big Panther GM search going?
I don't think you can write off a tax loss of a subsidiary when you consolidate under GAAP accounting. I think SSE is the parent company and the Panthers are a subsidiary, which would mean that SSE either pays taxes or gets a tax loss carryforward based on the consolidated results. I also think that SSE is profitable on a consolidated basis - at least that is what appears to have been said about them.

I don't have a problem with them wanting broadcasters to help market the team. It is a growing trend. But when a team is fortunate enough to also have a guy like Potvin on their broadcast team - a guy who is a HHOF member - then you make certain allowances. That's why you have the Goldys, Murphys and Mollers around. They are the shills and they do it gladly because they are likely not headed for a spot on CBC, TSN or even Versus.
Wounded Panther

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Jun 30, 2009
 
Another set of previous draft picks waived or lost to free agency...
Another set of overpaid vets released and bought-out...
Another set of underperformers who will have to take pay cuts..
Another token free agent signing (Reinprecht)...
Another set of UFAs who are pondering departure from this club...(Would YOU want to play here?)

It's good to see nothing changes in Pantherland!
..except for the gate and concession prices.

I know I said it before, but this organization is totally mismanaged at all levels. AC and MY are running a sinking ship of fools.

The only way things will change is if fans revolt and refuse to further subsidize this insanity.

o you honestly believe these shenanigans would be tolerated in a true hockey market like TOR, MON, NYR, DET?

It's going to be a long summer and an even longer '09-'10 season!
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Jun 30, 2009
 
AC Default Schemes Inc wrote:
USA Today - Monday June 29, 2009
Page 2, article about Denis Potvin being fired in a cost cutting move.
"Potvin was the color analyst since the team's inception in 1993. But the days of team's broadcasters just calling games are over in today's economy Panthers President Michael Yormark says. He wants broadcasters to be embassadors in the community and to schmooze with fans and sponsors"
Verbatim. puke.
So dont be suprised to see Goldy out there between periods shooting t-shirts over the glass with the Panther Patrol, as the Panthers lose 50 games, and finish 11th in the East.
It never occured to MY or AC, to win a few games & make a deep playoff run......
As long as 466 dummies still show up at Panther games, they can make money on concerts, rodeo's & real estate
and write off the hockey team as a tax loss.
And how's that big Panther GM search going?
Great post!, ACDSI

Like Louie, all of AC and MY's 'victim's' will eventually see the light....but only after these shylocks fleece them of several season's worthof season-ticket renewals. They will eventually see that the hockey team is a write-off for other 'interests' SSE is involved in.

AC and MY are the NHL's equivalent of Bernard Madoff.
RED BARON

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Jun 30, 2009
 
Wait a Minute wrote:
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McLean was a perfect example of Jacque Martin's poor player personnel moves. Yes, he should have been gone before. I would have much preferred to see them keep Repik up in the run for a playoff berth. Stewart was a disappointment. He was highly thought of at the time of his draft year, with some scouts placing him on par with Horton. He never developed and I believe his conditioning was also brought into question a few years ago. I met him once and he seemed like a nice guy.
Notice the continued housecleaning of various remnants of the JM era? First assistant coaching changes, now roster moves. DeBoer and Sexton may have been guys hired by Jacques, but they are not following his script anymore. They've got a new script, which I think is based largely on the way DeBoer wants the team to play and the kind of players he needs to execute his system. As for the few remaining bits and pieces, I've said often that I was never a Peltonen fan, but this past season he was a different player. I wouldn't be upset to see him come back for one more year. Dvorak is another guy who at the right price is worthwhile, especially since he can play on the PK and he did produce 15 goals and 21 assists last season. As a 3rd or 4th line guy, he'd be good to keep, plus he already knows DeBoer's system and that is an advantage over bringing in someone new to play on the bottom two lines.
Best move of the offseason? No question it was Jacques Martin leaving to go to the Habs as their coach. If he were still here, this team would be still stuck in the mud. At least we are starting to see some traction and movement towards what appears to be a cohesive plan. A big thanks to Bob Gainey!
I'm not a Sexton fan yet, but I can't disagree with any of the moves he has made so far. Most of them were no-brainers. He definitely is moving far away from Martin's GM strategy which is basically sit around and make no moves until too late or wait for something to miraculously change on its own.

If Sexton does get criticism from me it will most likely be for what he hasn't done, as opposed to, what he has done. For example, in the recent Steve Gorton interview he hinted that if we sign most of our RFAs than we will not be active in the FA market. However, if we have trouble signing our RFAs then he will be forced to look into the FA market. This kind of talk concerns me because it means that if we resign Booth, Anderson, Dvorak, Peltonen, etc. then we will most likely not seek out anymore scoring help. This is what most fans fear the most because without a bonafide scorer this team will suffer badly in the standings. Especially with many newbies on defense making rookie mistakes with no JayBo around to bail them out.

As you put it so eloquently before, it is a constant addition by subtraction with this team. With the defense becoming potentially worse next season the offense MUST get better or we can expect a much lower place in the standings. If Sexton hasn't factored this yet then he is only engineering his own termination as GM. We must get scoring help. Booth and Horton are not going to cut it. It doesn't have to be a 30-40 goal scorer, but at least 2 or 3 20 goal scorers to balance out the offense. Expecting the young guys to carry the scoring burden is prescription for diaster.
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Jun 30, 2009
 
As far as signing, Sexton needs to work first on signing Dvorak (more points than the older Peltonen) and Skrastins who's almost irreplaceable at this point with both body blocks and improved offense and very crisp passes. With Dvorak and Skrastins signed after BOOTH and ANDY, I wouldn't worry so much that other teams will jump on Pelty or Leo. If a deal can be worked to trade Vokoun, mor power to it !
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Jun 30, 2009
 
Gaborik would be one of the scorers we need. But for some reason they are afraid to pull the trigger (not to upset Horton and Weis??? but these two had so many chances to be stars and even Lindsay (this morning on 560am) isn't that optimist about them as late bloomers no more.
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Jun 30, 2009
 
Pink Baroness wrote:
Gaborik would be one of the scorers we need. But for some reason they are afraid to pull the trigger (not to upset Horton and Weis??? but these two had so many chances to be stars and even Lindsay (this morning on 560am) isn't that optimist about them as late bloomers no more.
Gaborik is undoubtedly one of the league's best scoring talents. But the big question is whether he can stay healthy. Can the Panthers afford the risk involved with a guy like that? I'm not convinced that he is a suitable investment. But Cammalleri is probably worthwhile and he would fit in well with DeBoer's uptempo, aggressive system.
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Jun 30, 2009
 
RED BARON wrote:
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I'm not a Sexton fan yet, but I can't disagree with any of the moves he has made so far. Most of them were no-brainers. He definitely is moving far away from Martin's GM strategy which is basically sit around and make no moves until too late or wait for something to miraculously change on its own.
If Sexton does get criticism from me it will most likely be for what he hasn't done, as opposed to, what he has done. For example, in the recent Steve Gorton interview he hinted that if we sign most of our RFAs than we will not be active in the FA market. However, if we have trouble signing our RFAs then he will be forced to look into the FA market. This kind of talk concerns me because it means that if we resign Booth, Anderson, Dvorak, Peltonen, etc. then we will most likely not seek out anymore scoring help. This is what most fans fear the most because without a bonafide scorer this team will suffer badly in the standings. Especially with many newbies on defense making rookie mistakes with no JayBo around to bail them out.
As you put it so eloquently before, it is a constant addition by subtraction with this team. With the defense becoming potentially worse next season the offense MUST get better or we can expect a much lower place in the standings. If Sexton hasn't factored this yet then he is only engineering his own termination as GM. We must get scoring help. Booth and Horton are not going to cut it. It doesn't have to be a 30-40 goal scorer, but at least 2 or 3 20 goal scorers to balance out the offense. Expecting the young guys to carry the scoring burden is prescription for diaster.
I saw the same interview and had the same reaction. My first emotion after I read that Mclean and Stewart were gone was happiness. Then I thought about it and... seems like they're making room for Repik and Mattias and/or Drew Shore. Meaning that they don't intend to make a free agent splash.
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Jun 30, 2009
 
Wait a Minute wrote:
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Gaborik is undoubtedly one of the league's best scoring talents. But the big question is whether he can stay healthy. Can the Panthers afford the risk involved with a guy like that? I'm not convinced that he is a suitable investment. But Cammalleri is probably worthwhile and he would fit in well with DeBoer's uptempo, aggressive system.
It would be amazing if we could land Cammalleri. I read that Leopold wants to sign here. Maybe he can convince Cammalleri to come too...
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Jun 30, 2009
 
It's a buyers market, but few will buy and many players will be left w/o contract, going back to Russia, Europe or year a round golf...you read it here first...
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Jun 30, 2009
 
RED BARON wrote:
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I'm not a Sexton fan yet, but I can't disagree with any of the moves he has made so far. Most of them were no-brainers. He definitely is moving far away from Martin's GM strategy which is basically sit around and make no moves until too late or wait for something to miraculously change on its own.
If Sexton does get criticism from me it will most likely be for what he hasn't done, as opposed to, what he has done. For example, in the recent Steve Gorton interview he hinted that if we sign most of our RFAs than we will not be active in the FA market. However, if we have trouble signing our RFAs then he will be forced to look into the FA market. This kind of talk concerns me because it means that if we resign Booth, Anderson, Dvorak, Peltonen, etc. then we will most likely not seek out anymore scoring help. This is what most fans fear the most because without a bonafide scorer this team will suffer badly in the standings. Especially with many newbies on defense making rookie mistakes with no JayBo around to bail them out.
As you put it so eloquently before, it is a constant addition by subtraction with this team. With the defense becoming potentially worse next season the offense MUST get better or we can expect a much lower place in the standings. If Sexton hasn't factored this yet then he is only engineering his own termination as GM. We must get scoring help. Booth and Horton are not going to cut it. It doesn't have to be a 30-40 goal scorer, but at least 2 or 3 20 goal scorers to balance out the offense. Expecting the young guys to carry the scoring burden is prescription for diaster.
FYI everyone Bouwmeester has signed with Calgary for 5 years.

I think you are right on the money. I don't foresee any big free agent forward signings or real help for the offense barring some kind of big trade. JM went to all the trouble and expense last year to build up the D and it has all fallen apart and 3 more defensemen are needed for this season and that's counting on Ellerby grabbing a spot. That should pretty much eat up the rest of the cap space with RFA signings. I guess they are expecting a little more offense from Reinprecht, Repik and Horton moving back to the wing. Horton's goal totals have decreased 3 years in a row now. Time for him to put up more goals and start earning that money.
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It would be amazing if we could land Cammalleri. I read that Leopold wants to sign here. Maybe he can convince Cammalleri to come too...
That would be nice, Cammalleri can score goals without an elite level centerman which is good trait to have on the Panthers.
Don't think they will have the $$$ to do it though. They need to sign at least 3 D-men plus I think they will bring back Dvorak and Pelts who both earned it last year. Smart move would be to give those guys 1 year deals and keep them hungry so they don't revert back to their poor form of previous years.
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Wait a Minute wrote:
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Gaborik is undoubtedly one of the league's best scoring talents. But the big question is whether he can stay healthy. Can the Panthers afford the risk involved with a guy like that? I'm not convinced that he is a suitable investment. But Cammalleri is probably worthwhile and he would fit in well with DeBoer's uptempo, aggressive system.
Don't see the Panthers spending the kind of cash it would take to grab Gaborik but I'm crossing my fingers. Rumor has it he may end up in Vancouver if the Sedin twins depart. Tomorrow should be a fun day. Hopefully the Panthers can wrap up Leopold as the D is really thin right now and also bring in a guy who can at least score 25 goals but I don't see the second part of that equation happening.
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Jun 30, 2009
 
Well good for Bou, 5 year deal in Calgary just signed. He earned it. Wonder when he'll start crying there...
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Jun 30, 2009
 
And even after the trade, Mr Wiggles insisted Calgary didnt have the cap space to sign Jaybo and he was going to Anaheim .......my response to Mr Wiggles?...."Rest assured Calgary has a plan to arrange the cap to sign him. Common sense...use some.....LMAO
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And even after the trade, Mr Wiggles insisted Calgary didnt have the cap space to sign Jaybo and he was going to Anaheim .......my response to Mr Wiggles?...."Rest assured Calgary has a plan to arrange the cap to sign him. Common sense...use some.....LMAO
I didn't say he wouldn't sign, I said it wasn't a layup for Calgary. And I haven't changed my opinion once. And my last comment was:

"If he signs with Calgary, it looks like he is going to have to agree to take no more than they pay Phaneuf, who gets an average of $6.5 million after siging a new contract for 6 years back in February 2008. so, if he wants to be paid like Campbell, who is getting about $7.14 million, he's probably not going to get it from Calgary."

Turns out he signed for a cap hit of $6.6 million, which is just a hair over Phaneuf's cap hit of $6.5. And it's likely he did leave quite a bit of money on the table, as there were probably other teams who were going to go higher.

And yeah, I still think Anaheim was a great fit for him and they had cap room. As for Calgary's cap situation, they are now at $54.66 million, which leaves them only $2.04 million or so under the cap and they only have 11 forwards signed. That's one player short of 4 lines and they still need room for injury and other problems that pop up (which is what hurt them last season when they had to play at the end of the year with a short roster). So unless they trade someone, and bring in cheaper players, yes, Calgary is facing a potential cap situation. No surprise, as Sutter messed up last year too.

Like I said, I've been totally consistent on this issue.
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