Give illegal immigrants amnesty, but don't let them vote

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The immigration issue doesn’t seem to be going away. The majority of American’s do not want amnesty, yet amnesty is what politicians seem to push.

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tomin cali Since: Aug 11 2,371 Location hidden	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #3 Dec 12, 2011 Judged: 1 1 1 Obama's Water gate,mexico sure does need to let their citizens arm themselves,also need to train them. those folks are sitting ducks or like sheep to the slaughter. sorry the drug cartels will not go out of business by legalizing drugs,proof is right here in ca with the medical marijuana. do a search or i can find you a link.
tomin cali Since: Aug 11 2,371 Location hidden	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #4 Dec 12, 2011 Judged: 1 1 1 here ya go for starters http://www.citywatchla.com/component/content/...
tisme Houston, TX	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #5 Dec 12, 2011 no way
DAVID63 Since: Nov 11 2,722 Seattle, WA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #6 Dec 12, 2011 Judged: 2 2 2 Enforce all of the laws,deport or execute all of the illegals,then let them vote in their own nations,not ours.
Dee Dee Dee Emmaus, PA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #7 Dec 12, 2011 Judged: 1 So we should create a second class of citizens to be exploited? We do not need illegals in this country period. If you want to come here do so legally or stay the hell out.
Juan Pearland, TX	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #8 Dec 12, 2011 Judged: 1 1 1 Yes, we should be given amnesty.
ZIAmouth585 Albuquerque, NM	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #9 Dec 12, 2011 Judged: 1 1 1 Illegals can't vote nor can any non-US citizen. Amnesty does not grant US citizenship, it allows the illegal to become a legal US resident and after five years allows submission for becoming a US citizen. About six months ago our Republican state governor got her Secretary of State to look into voter fraud here in New Mexico. Lots of allegations of massive voter fraud involving illegals. Initial report by the state indicated there were several thousand suspect voting irregularities. Less than a month ago that list was done to just a few people. In short, a lot of noise but in reality not much to it. Good though that it was looked in to.
DAVID63 Since: Nov 11 2,722 Seattle, WA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #10 Dec 12, 2011 ZIAmouth585 wrote: Illegals can't vote nor can any non-US citizen. Amnesty does not grant US citizenship, it allows the illegal to become a legal US resident and after five years allows submission for becoming a US citizen. About six months ago our Republican state governor got her Secretary of State to look into voter fraud here in New Mexico. Lots of allegations of massive voter fraud involving illegals. Initial report by the state indicated there were several thousand suspect voting irregularities. Less than a month ago that list was done to just a few people. In short, a lot of noise but in reality not much to it. Good though that it was looked in to. Another state is now saying that voter fraud got Obama on the ballot to run for President in its state,proving that he was an illegitimate candidate for President.

Different name Louisville, KY	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #11 Dec 12, 2011 Judged: 2 2 1 Dee Dee Dee wrote: So we should create a second class of citizens to be exploited? We do not need illegals in this country period. If you want to come here do so legally or stay the hell out. that's not what the people in the south are thinking - Alabama brings back slavery for Latinos Here's how: pass a draconian immigration law, lock up 'illegals' in private prisons, then get the new inmates to work in the fields. Anyone who follows politics long enough develops a certain immunity towards cynicism. It becomes hard to be shocked or disappointed by the too often self-serving and hypocritical actions of our elected officials. So, it was almost refreshing while covering harsh new immigration laws in the deep south of the United States to discover that architects of an especially tough new law in Alabama had put in a provision that would exempt "casual domestic labour". I was actually stunned. For the first time in ages. Basically, the good folks in Alabama behind the law were saying that, while companies and factories and farmers and restaurant owners should not dare to employ illegal immigrants (who, according to them, are a threat to the US economy), it was still fine to employ them to wash, cook, clean or look after the kids. That this was taking place in a state where, during segregation, wealthy white people used to regularly employ black maids as household help, just added insult to injury. It truly exposed some of the real social and political motivations behind the illegal immigration debate, especially in the south. As Isabel Rubio, of the Hispanic Interest Coalition of Alabama, said to me: "It's Alabama. It means you can still have your Latina household help." To my mind, it was simple self-serving hypocrisy. If you don't want brown-skinned illegal immigrants working in Alabama factories and picking Alabama farm crops, then why is it OK for them to – even casually, on a one-off basis – to mow your lawn or wash your clothes or cook your dinner. It was proof that – for a certain sector of the Alabama elite – not so much had changed since the darkest days of Jim Crow.
Speeders Kill Kids Since: Jun 11 2,595 Location hidden	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #12 Dec 12, 2011 Judged: 1 1 1 If they're given amnesty, they're gonna have drivers licenses and SSNs and everything else they need to vote. They'll be voting and thats what the democrats want. No amnesty period. Tell these criminals to go home and apply thru channels. And don't tell me that's too tough because america allows more legal immigrtion than any other country in the world.
Juan Pearland, TX	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #13 Dec 12, 2011 Judged: 1 1 Yes, amnesty would be great. Being able to vote and draw social security and medicare during our retirement years would be even better.
tomin cali Since: Aug 11 2,371 Location hidden	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #14 Dec 12, 2011 Judged: 1 1 1 DAVID63 wrote: <quoted text> Another state is now saying that voter fraud got Obama on the ballot to run for President in its state,proving that he was an illegitimate candidate for President. that i would believe, we have millions of illegal aliens out in the open doing whatever and nothing is done so whats a little voters fraud between criminals,obama likes them for some reason. wonder how much obama was to get out of the sale of his sentate seat,his crime partner got some time.
DAVID63 Since: Nov 11 2,722 Seattle, WA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #15 Dec 12, 2011 tomin cali wrote: <quoted text> that i would believe, we have millions of illegal aliens out in the open doing whatever and nothing is done so whats a little voters fraud between criminals,obama likes them for some reason. wonder how much obama was to get out of the sale of his sentate seat,his crime partner got some time. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12/12/in... That means Hillary was ripped off,and might be the President right now, if not for the corruption.
Rebel “Assimilate & Speak English!” Since: Jan 07 29,633 Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #16 Dec 12, 2011 ZIAmouth585 wrote: Illegals can't vote nor can any non-US citizen. Amnesty does not grant US citizenship, it allows the illegal to become a legal US resident and after five years allows submission for becoming a US citizen. About six months ago our Republican state governor got her Secretary of State to look into voter fraud here in New Mexico. Lots of allegations of massive voter fraud involving illegals. Initial report by the state indicated there were several thousand suspect voting irregularities. Less than a month ago that list was done to just a few people. In short, a lot of noise but in reality not much to it. Good though that it was looked in to. Are you out of your mind? It still rewards them for criminal acts - breaking the law many times over. No way! And, I will bet there are a lot more instances of illegals voting...but perhaps they are using the names/social security numbers of citizens. Let's say an illegal uses a valid social/name of a citizen and that citizen doesn't vote, but the illegal does. How are they going to figure that out? And yet, an illegal voted. That's why not giving illegals identification and yet requiring identification to vote is so important.
Rebel “Assimilate & Speak English!” Since: Jan 07 29,633 Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #17 Dec 12, 2011 Different name wrote: <quoted text> that's not what the people in the south are thinking - Alabama brings back slavery for Latinos Here's how: pass a draconian immigration law, lock up 'illegals' in private prisons, then get the new inmates to work in the fields. Anyone who follows politics long enough develops a certain immunity towards cynicism. It becomes hard to be shocked or disappointed by the too often self-serving and hypocritical actions of our elected officials. So, it was almost refreshing while covering harsh new immigration laws in the deep south of the United States to discover that architects of an especially tough new law in Alabama had put in a provision that would exempt "casual domestic labour". I was actually stunned. For the first time in ages. Basically, the good folks in Alabama behind the law were saying that, while companies and factories and farmers and restaurant owners should not dare to employ illegal immigrants (who, according to them, are a threat to the US economy), it was still fine to employ them to wash, cook, clean or look after the kids. That this was taking place in a state where, during segregation, wealthy white people used to regularly employ black maids as household help, just added insult to injury. It truly exposed some of the real social and political motivations behind the illegal immigration debate, especially in the south. As Isabel Rubio, of the Hispanic Interest Coalition of Alabama, said to me: "It's Alabama. It means you can still have your Latina household help." To my mind, it was simple self-serving hypocrisy. If you don't want brown-skinned illegal immigrants working in Alabama factories and picking Alabama farm crops, then why is it OK for them to – even casually, on a one-off basis – to mow your lawn or wash your clothes or cook your dinner. It was proof that – for a certain sector of the Alabama elite – not so much had changed since the darkest days of Jim Crow. You're out of your mind. I explained in a previous thread why they are NOT slaves. And, only about 3% of the illegals work in agriculture, so get over your "work in the fields" crap. http://www.cis.org/FirstQuarter2009Unemployme... In Unauthorized Migrants: Numbers and Characteristics, the Pew Hispanic Center estimated that 3 percent of illegal immigrants work in agriculture (figure on page 26). http://pewhispanic.org/files/reports/46.pdf
Je lai baisee AOL	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #18 Dec 12, 2011 Judged: 2 2 2 Speeders Kill Kids wrote: If they're given amnesty, they're gonna have drivers licenses and SSNs and everything else they need to vote. They'll be voting and thats what the democrats want. No amnesty period. Tell these criminals to go home and apply thru channels. And don't tell me that's too tough because america allows more legal immigrtion than any other country in the world. Who told you that a green card holder can vote in the state and federal elections? Is your hate so cruddy that you invent scenarios that are rare and nearly impossible but can scarce the general public. Criminals? Criminal is the dog that birthed you! If it is anyone who breaks the law then the entire US should be nuked for transferring nuclear technology to India (a nation who refused to sign the nonproliferation treaty). A crime against humanity committed by your as88ole country!
immigrant Brooklyn, NY	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #19 Dec 12, 2011 Judged: 1 1 1 You are such a moron and retarded. What do you mean by "execute all the ilegals" you piece of garbage. DAVID63 wrote: Enforce all of the laws,deport or execute all of the illegals,then let them vote in their own nations,not ours.
DAVID63 Since: Nov 11 2,722 Seattle, WA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #20 Dec 12, 2011 Judged: 1 immigrant wrote: You are such a moron and retarded. What do you mean by "execute all the ilegals" you piece of garbage.<quoted text> Slow kid,America already deports illegals,and executes the ones on Death row as the USA can,so read the news moron.You are trash for wanting illegals to stay,and not be executed if they do the same crimes that get other people executed.Why should an illegal get special treatment? think about that AZZhole.
DAVID63 Since: Nov 11 2,722 Seattle, WA	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #21 Dec 12, 2011 immigrant wrote: You are such a moron and retarded. What do you mean by "execute all the ilegals" you piece of garbage.<quoted text> http://ten8.wordpress.com/2011/07/07/texas-ex... Sorry,was that your Father? well,say goodbye.OOPS,he is gone.
Different name Louisville, KY	Reply » \| Report Abuse \| Judge it! \| #22 Dec 12, 2011 Again looserz that's the best deal you can ever get, the other option is like the previous amnesty, full citizenship, that's an offer you cannot refuse ;-)
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