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sweetkitten wrote: REALITY CHECK: In many cases there is no known cure for parasitic infestations. To date, no treatment employed against some types of human infestations has been completely effective in the sense of killing both the ova and adult mites. Nor has any substance used orally or topically proved effective in erradication. Bottomline, the best you can hope for is to manage your symptoms. There may not be a cure. Sadly, the medical community routinely brushes off mite parasite infestations as "crazy", "delusional", "parasitic phychosis". But oozing skin lesions, physical tracks and skin burrows, sensations of bugs biting and crawling above and under the skin are clearly not a delusion. The truth is, YOU are on your own! And many of you already know this because you have tried all conventional methods and alternative methods and failed to be cured. DO NOT GIVE UP! Sweet Kitten sounds more like ANGRY TIGER. Reality Check.
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Me Too wrote: <quoted text> There are several people on this forum that had problems with their scalp...you might want to do some research. I am glad I found something that worked for me, I hope you find your cure! Hi Me Too, Thank you for your answers. I still would like some more info if you would be willing. I am not being re infested, I don't use a pillow, or hats or wigs, I used to but figured out just that. The problem is not reifestation, but the fact that they have taken up residence under my skin. My daily treatments are of killing whatever comes out every day - that is why I have to shave every day, because it helps keep the numbers down. I couldn't tell you why. By the way, like I said this is not scabies, just some weird sarcoptic mite. I do not have sores or anything on my skin, I don't really itch all that much, I am just a walking factory of these pests. They are not imaginary, as when I go into public places, people around me start to itch in very "their" behavior specific places. Look, I have done some crazy things as well because I was desperate. I am not here to judge, as I understand what it is like to live with this crazy sh..t. I just want some more info so that I can make the decision for myself to try it or not. I would like to know how strong was the Iver you used? Did you apply it on only once per day, and then reapply (without washing in between)once a day for the next two days, or did you apply and keep on dabbing it on, throughout the day. Any other details that you could think of would be great. I am so glad that you are free. I can only imagine what that would feel like. Thank you again.
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sick of bugs
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sweetkitten wrote: REALITY CHECK: In many cases there is no known cure for parasitic infestations. To date, no treatment employed against some types of human infestations has been completely effective in the sense of killing both the ova and adult mites. Nor has any substance used orally or topically proved effective in erradication. Bottomline, the best you can hope for is to manage your symptoms. There may not be a cure. Sadly, the medical community routinely brushes off mite parasite infestations as "crazy", "delusional", "parasitic phychosis". But oozing skin lesions, physical tracks and skin burrows, sensations of bugs biting and crawling above and under the skin are clearly not a delusion. The truth is, YOU are on your own! And many of you already know this because you have tried all conventional methods and alternative methods and failed to be cured. DO NOT GIVE UP! Sweet kitten, I do not understand the purpose of your post. Most of the information that you state is obvious to someone that has been dealing with this kind of thing for four years, like me. Plus, first you say "there is no hope", and then end with "don't give up" - what is that supposed to be, or mean or anything at all. I would like to say something to all of you on this forum, that DO write these little weird, nasty comments here. I do understand that dealing with scabies, is probably way more painfull than even dealing with what I've got, and my infestation is a life draining nightmare. Specifically for that reason alone, you should be nice to eachother. You should support each other rather than taking bites out. No one needs any more agrevation in a situation like this one. So if you are fed up with your bugs, go take a plastic baseball bat, and beat the crap out of your couch -it will make you feel better, I promis. But don't take it out on other people that don't deserve it to begin with.
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sweetkitten wrote: REALITY CHECK: In many cases there is no known cure for parasitic infestations. To date, no treatment employed against some types of human infestations has been completely effective in the sense of killing both the ova and adult mites. Nor has any substance used orally or topically proved effective in erradication. Bottomline, the best you can hope for is to manage your symptoms. There may not be a cure. Sadly, the medical community routinely brushes off mite parasite infestations as "crazy", "delusional", "parasitic phychosis". But oozing skin lesions, physical tracks and skin burrows, sensations of bugs biting and crawling above and under the skin are clearly not a delusion. The truth is, YOU are on your own! And many of you already know this because you have tried all conventional methods and alternative methods and failed to be cured. DO NOT GIVE UP! What? So there is no hope, but don't give up? Where do you get your information? How do you know there is no cure for some Scabies infestations? I believe there is a cure for everyone, it's just that some Scabies cases are difficult to cure because the mites have gone deep in the skin where topicals can't go. And the mites build up a resistance to Ivermectin so everyone needs to stay focused on all the medical and alternative treatment regimes until they have found what works for them. Everyone's situation is different! What may work for me may not work for you, etc. But to tell Scabies sufferers there is no cure is just plain cruel.
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I'm trying to help a 245 lb man with severe Scabies (he has been suffering for six years) but wants to try Ivermectin Horse Paste or Ivomec Injectable. Can anyone describe their experience with Durvet Ivermectin 1.87% Horse Paste orally? Side effects? Success? Recommendations? He also needs to know what the injectable dose is for a 245 lb man using Ivomec? Side effects? Success? Recommendations? Thanks.
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Me Too
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sick of bugs wrote: <quoted text> Hi Me Too, Thank you for your answers. I still would like some more info if you would be willing. I am not being re infested, I don't use a pillow, or hats or wigs, I used to but figured out just that. The problem is not reifestation, but the fact that they have taken up residence under my skin. My daily treatments are of killing whatever comes out every day - that is why I have to shave every day, because it helps keep the numbers down. I couldn't tell you why. By the way, like I said this is not scabies, just some weird sarcoptic mite. I do not have sores or anything on my skin, I don't really itch all that much, I am just a walking factory of these pests. They are not imaginary, as when I go into public places, people around me start to itch in very "their" behavior specific places. Look, I have done some crazy things as well because I was desperate. I am not here to judge, as I understand what it is like to live with this crazy sh..t. I just want some more info so that I can make the decision for myself to try it or not. I would like to know how strong was the Iver you used? Did you apply it on only once per day, and then reapply (without washing in between)once a day for the next two days, or did you apply and keep on dabbing it on, throughout the day. Any other details that you could think of would be great. I am so glad that you are free. I can only imagine what that would feel like. Thank you again. The ivermetin I used was 5 mg per mL. Durvet Ivermectin pour-on for cattle. I really don't know what to tell you as I was just experimenting on myself like the rest of the people on this forum. At 1st when I applied the topical ivermectin, I was cautious, because I didn't know what to expect. Then, when I saw that it was working, and I had no ill effects, I went on with the experiment. If I had an itch in between treatments, I would spot treat on the itchy areas. I applied it for 3 days with spot treatments too. I might add that before this treatment I had done several others and might have worn them down a bit. Now the scabies that I had.....was with me for several yrs and probably never had seen ivermectin. I had used plenty of permethrins and every other natural cure too. So when I hit them with ivermectin....they were done. Mites are mites, and from everything that I have read, there are many different kinds out there. Morgellons seem like a real nightmare. I really can't tell you what to do....I can tell you what worked for me. If you have no severe itch or other mite symptoms, I don't know if what worked for me would work for you. I sincerely hope you find your cure!
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Me Too
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sick of bugs wrote: <quoted text> Hi Me Too, Thank you for your answers. I still would like some more info if you would be willing. I am not being re infested, I don't use a pillow, or hats or wigs, I used to but figured out just that. The problem is not reifestation, but the fact that they have taken up residence under my skin. My daily treatments are of killing whatever comes out every day - that is why I have to shave every day, because it helps keep the numbers down. I couldn't tell you why. By the way, like I said this is not scabies, just some weird sarcoptic mite. I do not have sores or anything on my skin, I don't really itch all that much, I am just a walking factory of these pests. They are not imaginary, as when I go into public places, people around me start to itch in very "their" behavior specific places. Look, I have done some crazy things as well because I was desperate. I am not here to judge, as I understand what it is like to live with this crazy sh..t. I just want some more info so that I can make the decision for myself to try it or not. I would like to know how strong was the Iver you used? Did you apply it on only once per day, and then reapply (without washing in between)once a day for the next two days, or did you apply and keep on dabbing it on, throughout the day. Any other details that you could think of would be great. I am so glad that you are free. I can only imagine what that would feel like. Thank you again. I might ad, that still today, if I have a questionable itch, I take out a q-tip and hit the spot with ivermectin before it will develop into a bigger problem. That is what is sad about mite sufferers...it makes you paranoid about itching or seeing other people itch around you. I even put on plastic gloves when I am dealing with something that is questionable(things that I had handled when I was infected)as I know they live longer than we are told.
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umathr
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I use sulfur soap and diatomaceous soil. The sulfur soap 10% really works but you have to use a bath brush to work the soap into the skin, I think you will get good results immediately. You have to keep the treatments up even after the symptoms stop being noticeable. Let the soap dry on the skin, and reapply as often as you can. The problem with sulfur soap is that it smells, some people do not like the smell but it is better than the scabies. If you have a bad case of scabies I urge you to use the sulfur soap you will get rid of most them and fast. It is a different matter to getrid of them forever.
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Wow, it's been a while since anyone, including the regulars, have posted. Have people been cured or just given up? This was once the most informative of all the Scabies Topix.
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catzilla and i have the same dermo clinic and telling us we dont have active scabies but we know different,what really confuses me is the dermo has himself told me he was considerd the best as he has worked in so many countries but can see a scabie rash 2 feet infront of him....Dr Prasad Kumarasinghe .....
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but cant see! i ment sorry......
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his name is all over the net too!
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sick of bugs
Brandon, FL
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Listen everyone, I am sorry if it was my post that made you not want to post here. Please forgive me, did not mean anything serious by it.
Sorry again!
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itcher
Perth, Australia
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4 weeks since last treat and my crawling sensations have gone! still getting tiny lumps n bumps,im thinking debrie and pruitus. this is my first positive in nine months of treating.
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FRED
Denver, CO
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Me Too wrote: <quoted text> The ivermetin I used was 5 mg per mL. Durvet Ivermectin pour-on for cattle. I really don't know what to tell you as I was just experimenting on myself like the rest of the people on this forum. At 1st when I applied the topical ivermectin, I was cautious, because I didn't know what to expect. Then, when I saw that it was working, and I had no ill effects, I went on with the experiment. If I had an itch in between treatments, I would spot treat on the itchy areas. I applied it for 3 days with spot treatments too. I might add that before this treatment I had done several others and might have worn them down a bit. Now the scabies that I had.....was with me for several yrs and probably never had seen ivermectin. I had used plenty of permethrins and every other natural cure too. So when I hit them with ivermectin....they were done. Mites are mites, and from everything that I have read, there are many different kinds out there. Morgellons seem like a real nightmare. I really can't tell you what to do....I can tell you what worked for me. If you have no severe itch or other mite symptoms, I don't know if what worked for me would work for you. I sincerely hope you find your cure! I wish I had had the luck you had and never done Iver. I was trying for a few months to cure me and my dog, she never got better and I had to give her up for contagion reasons. In the process I took a lot of Ivermectin so my mites are pretty used to it. I did 3x oral doses every for days for over a month at the end and gave up on it because it got to be like candy. I'm doing the topical method but using 3 tubes of horse paste a day mixed with a little pour on, I'm on day 10 now with good results.
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Still Fighting
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itcher wrote: 4 weeks since last treat and my crawling sensations have gone! still getting tiny lumps n bumps,im thinking debrie and pruitus. this is my first positive in nine months of treating. Itcher, What treatment have you been doing for the last 9 months????? I was doing lemongrass and citral with grapeseed oil and lavendar to mask the too strong lemony smell, and IT WORKED TOO WELL!!!! in that too many scabs on my scalp {I have Norwegian/Crusted type} and rashes and ugly manifestations on my face {first time in 2 plus yrs of battliing this horror} and scary, long track marks {first time also in 2 yr. battle} on abdomen.....just a mess although it meant there was a killing going on I presume. BUT I could not continue due to not being able to go to work looking like a monster and the discomfort and upkeep was killing me as well, so I had to resign myself to going back to yes a reduced population, I'm assuming, but back to only a managed status of daily lemongrass and citral on calves and feet, 10% permethrin on abdomen, breasts, underarms, some of back, and 45% permethrin on groin and anus. Nothing on scalp.....too much reaction up there!! Horrible but a good sign of it working, I suppose, of encrustations and bumps and incredible itching as I've never experienced before. Maybe I will return to some treatment again when I don't have to face employment restrictions on my appearance daily. I AM LOOKING INTO ENERGETIC MEDICINE -SPECIFICALLY THE RIFETECH MACHINE INVENTED AND INDIVIDUALLY BUILT BY GARY WADE. CHECK IT OUT AND LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. IT SUPPOSEDLY KILLS PARASITES VIA ULTASOUND/MECHANICAL VIBRATIONS THAT ARE GENERATED THROUGHOUT THE BODY'S TISSUES. IT IS AN EXPENSIVE MACHINE BUT I AM CONSIDERING IT AND AM GOING TO COMMUNICATE WITH ITS INVENTOR/BUILDER {YOU CAN TOO AT HIS WEBSITE....LOOK UP RIFETECH} AND GET BACK TO YOU WITH MORE INFORMATION WHEN I CAN. I KNOW THEY WARN ABOUT THE HERXHEIMER REACTION OR THE KILL-OFF EFFECT WHICH IS THE FAST BREAKDOWN OF MAJOR PATHOGENS IN THE BODY. Glad to be back just maintaining once again and not scarred with ugly rash manifestations although sorry not to have been able to stay the course and hopefully kill all the microscopic life-changing bastards, Still Fighting In NYC ps I still do a daily 3 heaping tablespoons of diatomaceous{sp?} clay for me and my cats and I will go back to 4mlg {I think - I forget} of Ivomec Generic injectable ivermectin taken orally.
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Still Fighting wrote: <quoted text> Itcher, What treatment have you been doing for the last 9 months????? I was doing lemongrass and citral with grapeseed oil and lavendar to mask the too strong lemony smell, and IT WORKED TOO WELL!!!! in that too many scabs on my scalp {I have Norwegian/Crusted type} and rashes and ugly manifestations on my face {first time in 2 plus yrs of battliing this horror} and scary, long track marks {first time also in 2 yr. battle} on abdomen.....just a mess although it meant there was a killing going on I presume. BUT I could not continue due to not being able to go to work looking like a monster and the discomfort and upkeep was killing me as well, so I had to resign myself to going back to yes a reduced population, I'm assuming, but back to only a managed status of daily lemongrass and citral on calves and feet, 10% permethrin on abdomen, breasts, underarms, some of back, and 45% permethrin on groin and anus. Nothing on scalp.....too much reaction up there!! Horrible but a good sign of it working, I suppose, of encrustations and bumps and incredible itching as I've never experienced before. Maybe I will return to some treatment again when I don't have to face employment restrictions on my appearance daily. I AM LOOKING INTO ENERGETIC MEDICINE -SPECIFICALLY THE RIFETECH MACHINE INVENTED AND INDIVIDUALLY BUILT BY GARY WADE. CHECK IT OUT AND LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. IT SUPPOSEDLY KILLS PARASITES VIA ULTASOUND/MECHANICAL VIBRATIONS THAT ARE GENERATED THROUGHOUT THE BODY'S TISSUES. IT IS AN EXPENSIVE MACHINE BUT I AM CONSIDERING IT AND AM GOING TO COMMUNICATE WITH ITS INVENTOR/BUILDER {YOU CAN TOO AT HIS WEBSITE....LOOK UP RIFETECH} AND GET BACK TO YOU WITH MORE INFORMATION WHEN I CAN. I KNOW THEY WARN ABOUT THE HERXHEIMER REACTION OR THE KILL-OFF EFFECT WHICH IS THE FAST BREAKDOWN OF MAJOR PATHOGENS IN THE BODY. Glad to be back just maintaining once again and not scarred with ugly rash manifestations although sorry not to have been able to stay the course and hopefully kill all the microscopic life-changing bastards, Still Fighting In NYC ps I still do a daily 3 heaping tablespoons of diatomaceous{sp?} clay for me and my cats and I will go back to 4mlg {I think - I forget} of Ivomec Generic injectable ivermectin taken orally. isorry to hear you still suffering and sounds like you need medical help. i have been using just about everything cat has used but 4 months ago my doctor asked me to stop using perm and use bb,so i did but didnt want to,i always use progress idea and add 5 ml of tto to mix to make it stronger and i have used that and my permethrine mix wich was quellda with a total permethrine pippet in it to make it stronger. thats whta i used the most.im not a natural medicine type of person so i have use the chemicals the most! i am still fighting with the medical side of it as i refuse to give up on the doctors! i am going to look at this machiene your talking about,sounds very interesting! when you say get long track marks,are they like sometimes 50 cm lomg? do you mean long ones like that,i have seen on forum people talking about the real long ones the doctors call scratches because they are so long. are you taking iver,the iver is suppose to clear up your crustede scabies! do you have a doctor you see?
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RK in the house wrote: I have an idea, theory based upon all of the information that i gathered from doctors, vets. It is the following-- in areas where the skin is really thick--this is where there are layers of mites deep in the epidermis. Feet are the worst especially once you are over the mid 30's age, as circulation becomes poor and some people such as me have layer upon layer of calluses on the feet. This is a vector for disease. I believe that the mite were in my calluses where were thick and dried up. They hid their like someone would hid in catacombs, labyrinths. My worst areas have always been my feet, I would take the iver, it seemed to clear up some things, then it would always start again, meaning the other areas to be infected little by little. I would feel things in the inner knee first, then groin, buttocks, then my back would get new bites ( in that order). I always seemed to feel that movement upwards whether it took a 1-2 days or 5 days. The mites travel, that is what they do. So I started removed the calluses on my feet by 2x or 3x daily of the 25% urea, CCS cream and things have improved. No more crawling and seemingly bites on the inner knees. So I have had extensive work done on my immune system as it was free and then tested again 2-3 months later after all that permethrin use and my kidneys and liver were still fine. I think that this is the reason why older people can't get rid of the SC easily. It is because of thickened, non circulatory skin and calluses, bumps,whatever you want to call these, but older people have these and not younger people. The main reason for me at least seems to be the skin in the feet, elbows, face where there are alot of muscles and then mites hiding in all the various pores of the face, protected by all the muscles not immunity system or immune systemm although no doubt that that plays a part too. The CCS I think works because it opens those pores up and then your meds can go in deeper. I was just trying to develop a theory because I think that alot of people have adequate immune systems or at least on paper, their immune systems are adequate, people cut themselves and scabs form ( means white blood cells and everything else seems to be working), they don't catch an excessive amount of colds, exercise, eat right,etc. I had an extensive kidney and liver and immune system exam when I first broke out with this.It came back as normal everything normal. So it took about 5-6 days with the CCS cream to reduce the calluses, every couple of days, lots of skin fell off, then I notice less and less buzzing ( my interpretation of the buzzing of the nerves in the feet which is sometimes accompanied by itching, also some bites and bite like sensations, and rarely but sometimes, intense itching. All of the above is now much less in my feet. By the way, my left foot had much less calluses than my right foot. And accordingly, since the theory I devised is based on calluses, the right foot is quite a bit more infected ( I gauge this by itching, biting and buzzing effects that I feel) than the left foot. So again, the main theory is ( at least this works for me) in areas where the skin is really thick--this is where there are layers of mites deep in the epidermis. I stumbled on to something that seems to be working pretty good. "itcher" mentioned putting plastic bags on your feet with the iver inside to sleep with . Then i tried to get them inside my shoes and they ripped of coarse. I then put Iver all over feet and wrapped in saran wrap slid socks over and put on shoes. my feet stayed gooey all day like an 8 hour iver soak. The next time i went to do this I found some of the biggest dead mites on my feet that i have seen. Today I started wearing surgical gloves, the blue ones are better they don't break so easy, I put the Iver inside the surgical gloves and after about 4 hours found a lot of dead mites on my hands. it stays on your hands and your skin is moist....
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