Permethrin Failed - Now what? Here's a cure... maybe

Aaron wrote:

I read somewhere that MSM contains 35% sulfur, so, for those of you who are having a hard time with this, it is better to use the 100% pure sublimed sulfur mixed with your favorite moisturing lotion (menthol lotion is a plus, as the mites hate menthol), and mixing it to your own strength, anywhere from 10-20%. Careful around the eyes, it burns.
Hydrogen peroxide may help with penetration of the mix into the burrows.
For those of you who need to mask the smell, due to work or social situations, using the MSM is a plus, but it's weak, and you will have to be super diligent.

mitewarrior77 wrote:

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Permethrin 5% Cream is no longer recommended for Scabies cure. It simply is not strong enough. Go ahead and waste your time and money on it. Meanwhile the Scabies mites will reproduce under your skin making a cure more difficult. Years ago this was what doctors prescribed for Scabies but the mites have evolved and are resistant to it. Go for 45% Permethrin using Advantix II Blue while you are taking Ivermectin tablets.

FRED wrote:

<quoted text>I spent a lot of money on advantix, it didn't work for me.

mitewarrior77 wrote:

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Did you apply Advantix while you were taking Stromectol/Ivermectin tablets? A lot of people from this forum were cured last Summer using this combination. Myself included. There must be some way to kill them from the inside out because topicals by themselves don't cure. Even kerosene oil and turpentine oils have not cured the Scabies mites of 2012!

FRED wrote:

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Who was cured? From what I've read it was a very few, just you i think.

mitewarrior77 wrote:

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Most, if not all cured Scabies sufferers left the Forum and never came back as far as I know. When you are cured you have no reason to come to the Forum.

itchyandscratchy wrote:

could be some kind of post traumatic stress symptom?

Marilyn wrote:

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I have been trying your recommendation of using Advantix 2 with oral ivermectin. It has been about a week since I took my first dose of Iver. I have taken it 3 times so far this past week. I was a little nervous about the Advantix, but then I am so desperate to get rid of this shit that I would do just about anything. So, I have mixed it with a little almond oil and have been putting it on daily, particularly in the problem areas like my back, shoulders, around the waste, under tight fitting clothes like underwear, in the pubic area. I have even dabbed some on my face because I have had crawling feelings around my nose, mouth, and eyes. I also had bites in my scalp and behind my ears, but those have resolved now. My question is this---I have not had any new bites so far but I continue to itch in some places, although I know that is not unusual, what concerns me most is that I still have random feelings that something is crawling on me. Did you have that? It isn't a constant thing, but evey now and then, I feel as though something is crawling--and it is not always in the same place but in random places. I do though have the feeling on my face but now it is mostly just around my nose. I am fearful that all the iver and advantix is not really killing all the mites--that they may be resistant--and that all it is doing is holding them at bay. I am afraid that in a couple of weeks, all the progress that I have made thus far will have been for naught and that I will start having active scabies again. If it was not for the crawling sensation, I would think that maybe I have beaten this thing now. Any thoughts about this?

Me Too wrote:

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spot treat the areas that are questionable until the symptoms go away.

RRR wrote:

Marilyn, where are you getting ur ivermectin? I can agree that having medicine in the cabinet, does make you feel better. Healthcare is so pathetic here in the US

RRR wrote:

Marilyn, where are you getting ur ivermectin? I can agree that having medicine in the cabinet, does make you feel better. Healthcare is so pathetic here in the US

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Marilyn wrote:

<quoted text>RRR---I found a website to order ivermectin from another posting on the scabies forum. It seems to be reputable--I'm not dead yet, at any rate. It's: http://www.drugs-store-online.com I think it's in the UK. You can order "stomectol" which is ivermectin in 3mg tablets. I weigh about 122 lbs. so I take 12mg--4 tablets at a time. If you look on the back of the blister pack that the tablet comes in, it appears that these come from India. I don't have a problem with that and they seem to work. I doubt that the place would continue to do business if they were killing people with tainted drugs. Maybe it's a leap of faith to take them when they come from another country, but others on this forum have been doing it and they are still alive. And as I said, I am desperate after 9 months of this. I still cannot believe the extent of the things I have had to do and the money I have spent in trying to get free of this. What amazes me about this ordeal is that this problem is not something you ever hear about or read about in health-related articles in the newspapers or on any talk shows on tv, etc. Until this happened to me, it certainly was not something that ever crossed my mind and I'm sure it never crosses anyone else's mind either unless they get them. But judging from the number of people on this forum, it is obviously a problem--and becoming a bigger problem since the standard treatment regimens are no longer sufficient to get rid of these "super scabies". I just don't understand why I have never heard it mentioned before when you hear about and read about any number of illnesses, etc. everyday in the paper or on tv. The biggest mystery, however, which will remain a mystery is where I got them in the first place since my husband doesn't have them nor does anyone I come in contact with. Only thing I can think of is on a plane or in a hotel maybe. I am in medical sales and I do go into nursing homes from time to time, so that is also a possibility but I usually don't sit down anywhere and I don't touch any of the residents. Guess I'll never know for sure, but it has certainly made me paranoid as hell about sitting anywhere in public for any length of time. As to my current status--I have not had new bites for over 2 weeks, however, I still get the random sensation of something crawling on my face or on my body. It's better than it was and not as frequent, but I still do feel it. It concerns me because I don't know if that is really a mite on me or if it is some neurological thing caused from all the permethrin. I guess if I am not getting new bites, then I could assume that I am clean now. But the paranoia won't allow me to believe it. I am still spot-treating with perm. and I will take another round of ivermectin over the weekend. If I can go a few days without any sensation of something on me, then maybe I will feel that I can back off all the stuff and stop the frantic cleaning, laundering, etc. Sorry for the long post, but it helps to be able to talk about this to others who understand. I have certainly made everyone in my family very tired of this topic. Good luck to all of you.

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mitewarrior77 wrote:

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SPAM! BEWARE!

Marilyn wrote:

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What are you talking about??? My post isn't SPAM. I was trying to provide the info. that the previous poster, RRR, had asked me about. It's not SPAM.

FRED wrote:

I did have good luck with that Pharm but I also believe that some of the medication your getting through Canadian Pharmacies which comes from India. is out of spec or possibly even counterfeit or placebo. The bottom line is you Can not depend on it so there is a doubt in your mind as to what coarse of treatment you have actually accomplished.
What you can depend on is the Ivermectin and Albendazole that is produced for vetranary purposes. You can get it quicker and cheaper too.
I used this for Ivermectin, the dosage is easy.
http://us.merial.com/equine/products_eqvalan....
I used this for Albendazole, the dosage is easy, this would be used in conjunction with Ivermectin, they are synergistic, for any internal issues that scabies might develop into after having it for some time that a topical wouldn't reach.
http://animalhealth.pfizer.com/sites/pahweb/u...

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Marilyn wrote:

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RRR---I found a website to order ivermectin from another posting on the scabies forum. It seems to be reputable--I'm not dead yet, at any rate. It's: http://www.drugs-store-online.com I think it's in the UK. You can order "stomectol" which is ivermectin in 3mg tablets. I weigh about 122 lbs. so I take 12mg--4 tablets at a time. If you look on the back of the blister pack that the tablet comes in, it appears that these come from India. I don't have a problem with that and they seem to work. I doubt that the place would continue to do business if they were killing people with tainted drugs. Maybe it's a leap of faith to take them when they come from another country, but others on this forum have been doing it and they are still alive. And as I said, I am desperate after 9 months of this. I still cannot believe the extent of the things I have had to do and the money I have spent in trying to get free of this. What amazes me about this ordeal is that this problem is not something you ever hear about or read about in health-related articles in the newspapers or on any talk shows on tv, etc. Until this happened to me, it certainly was not something that ever crossed my mind and I'm sure it never crosses anyone else's mind either unless they get them. But judging from the number of people on this forum, it is obviously a problem--and becoming a bigger problem since the standard treatment regimens are no longer sufficient to get rid of these "super scabies". I just don't understand why I have never heard it mentioned before when you hear about and read about any number of illnesses, etc. everyday in the paper or on tv. The biggest mystery, however, which will remain a mystery is where I got them in the first place since my husband doesn't have them nor does anyone I come in contact with. Only thing I can think of is on a plane or in a hotel maybe. I am in medical sales and I do go into nursing homes from time to time, so that is also a possibility but I usually don't sit down anywhere and I don't touch any of the residents. Guess I'll never know for sure, but it has certainly made me paranoid as hell about sitting anywhere in public for any length of time. As to my current status--I have not had new bites for over 2 weeks, however, I still get the random sensation of something crawling on my face or on my body. It's better than it was and not as frequent, but I still do feel it. It concerns me because I don't know if that is really a mite on me or if it is some neurological thing caused from all the permethrin. I guess if I am not getting new bites, then I could assume that I am clean now. But the paranoia won't allow me to believe it. I am still spot-treating with perm. and I will take another round of ivermectin over the weekend. If I can go a few days without any sensation of something on me, then maybe I will feel that I can back off all the stuff and stop the frantic cleaning, laundering, etc. Sorry for the long post, but it helps to be able to talk about this to others who understand. I have certainly made everyone in my family very tired of this topic. Good luck to all of you.