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Pancreatic Cancer

Apple CEO Jobs had liver transplant

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liner

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#28
Jun 20, 2009
 
Bites at the apple wrote:
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Privacy is certainly at issue. And to those persons leading private lives, they are absolutely entitled. Mr. Jobs, however, does not lead a public life.
Mr. Jobs chose to access the PUBLIC equity markets to finance his company with money from the PUBLIC. The federal laws require that events that would have a potential material adverse effect on a PUBLIC company are required to be disclosed to the PUBLIC. Apple and Mr. Jobs have repeatedly disregarded these laws.
I appreciate that Mr. Jobs is apparently doing well. However, if Apple or Mr. Jobs feels that these are not public issues, then they are more than welcome to take their company private. Otherwise, the law cannot play favorites.
Disagree with you. While much information concerning such persons as Mr. Jobs is and should be public knowledge, not ALL is. He is certainly entitled to have a private part of his life not in the public domain.
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#29
Jun 20, 2009
 
I wonder how the decision was made to allow Jobs,a California resident to receive a liver in Tennessee.Tired of hearing about celebrities moving to the head of the transplant line for liver transplants.Others included the alcoholics Mikey Mantle and Larry Hageman.Since the cancer Jobs is reported to have often mestatizes and the transplant was a controversal procedure,I can surmise that a large amount of money changed hands,above the medical fees.I think this should be investigated to see if outside influence was applied to jump Jobs over the Tennessee wait list.
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#30
Jun 20, 2009
 
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So many haters!
and his/her reward is a pathetic existence. "One reaps which one sows". Nature takes its course.
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#31
Jun 20, 2009
 
It always amazes me that when people in the limelight suddenly clam up on a health issue. in his case, it's a direction for the potential case of big change at a company where many thousands have an interest. This is not a John Wayne thing!
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#32
Jun 20, 2009
 
Jombe wrote:
I wonder how he managed to jump to the head of the line for a liver.
How do you know he did?
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#33
Jun 20, 2009
 
Montys python wrote:
I wonder how the decision was made to allow Jobs,a California resident to receive a liver in Tennessee....I think this should be investigated to see if outside influence was applied to jump Jobs over the Tennessee wait list.
The waiting-lists are national, not state-based; a patient may travel to where a transplant is more convenient. The extent of Jobs's illness(es) in recent months and years suggests that he indeed had a critical need. You're reacting as though his need for a liver was sudden just because the announcement was sudden, but he's been known to be ill for quite a while now.
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#34
Jun 20, 2009
 
I am an organ donor and everyone else should be too, unless there is some religious reason why you can't be. That said, my late spouse had a kidney transplant in 1984. It lasted about 20 years. Back then, it was a complicated and lengthy procedure for getting an organ and I don't think it's changed much, but one thing you could do was be on several lists. The problem of course was it would be nearly impossible to get from, say, California to Tennessee in time if one became available. But, if you LIVED in Tennessee and knew one was going to be available, that would be different. Or if you had a jet at your disposal.

I wish no ill will to Steve Jobs, but something ain't right here.
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Jun 20, 2009
 
PC or Mac wrote:
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...he (along with Mr. Gates) revolutionized the computer industry, which created a worldwide impact, and I believe for the good.
Gates stole the idea of the GUI OS from Apple while working on the Excel program for them, developed the WinOS in secret and released Windows overseas. The only thing he revolutionized was piracy.
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#36
Jun 20, 2009
 
Jombe wrote:
I wonder how he managed to jump to the head of the line for a liver.
He showed up with some fava beans and a nice chianti
aches and pains

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Jun 20, 2009
 
I don't understand how someone with cancer can be fast tracked for a new liver. I know of one poor woman who waited and waited and then died. While I wish SJ a speedy recovery and good wishes, how did he get one when others cannot, especially when there is a possible terminal underlying condition going on with him ?
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Jun 20, 2009
 
Apple Squirrel wrote:
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Gates stole the idea of the GUI OS from Apple while working on the Excel program for them, developed the WinOS in secret and released Windows overseas. The only thing he revolutionized was piracy.
Yeah, that's it. You nailed it. Everybody is wrong about his contributions; you're right.

*eyeroll*
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#39
Jun 20, 2009
 
aches and pains wrote:
I don't understand how someone with cancer can be fast tracked for a new liver. I know of one poor woman who waited and waited and then died. While I wish SJ a speedy recovery and good wishes, how did he get one when others cannot,
Isn't it possible to ask that about anyone who receives a transplant? Somebody has to be first in line and next in line. You're making the same unfounded assumption that others are - that because they're making a sudden announcement, it must have been a sudden decision. If it took two months for them to make the announcement to tell us what we didn't know, we might assume that there were other things happening for longer than that that we also didn't know about.
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The waiting-lists are national, not state-based; a patient may travel to where a transplant is more convenient. The extent of Jobs's illness(es) in recent months and years suggests that he indeed had a critical need. You're reacting as though his need for a liver was sudden just because the announcement was sudden, but he's been known to be ill for quite a while now.
My reaction is based on "Money and celebrity talks".The UNOC website clearly states the first priority are 'locals first",next priority are neighboring OPO (Organ Procuring Organization), and finally nationally.I can't believe that there was NO ONE in the Eastern,Midwest or Southern areas of this country who didn't match up for a liver.I stand by my call for an investigation.
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Jun 20, 2009
 
Apple Squirrel wrote:
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Gates stole the idea of the GUI OS from Apple while working on the Excel program for them, developed the WinOS in secret and released Windows overseas. The only thing he revolutionized was piracy.
While Mr. Jobs stole the mouse/cursor display from Xerox, and the menu of his iPod from Creative Labs. Apple is not all that innocent in any of this.
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Jun 20, 2009
 
Montys python wrote:
<quoted text>My reaction is based on "Money and celebrity talks".The UNOC website clearly states the first priority are 'locals first",next priority are neighboring OPO (Organ Procuring Organization), and finally nationally.
But that's not all it says. It also clearly indicates that location is but one metric in a complex ranking system that combines many factors. I'm guessing you don't know nearly enough about his "scores" in that complex ranking system. At least you're honest about your suspicions about "money and celebrity."
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#43
Jun 20, 2009
 
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But that's not all it says. It also clearly indicates that location is but one metric in a complex ranking system that combines many factors. I'm guessing you don't know nearly enough about his "scores" in that complex ranking system. At least you're honest about your suspicions about "money and celebrity."
I stand by my Posting,favoritism was shown
aches and pains

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#45
Jun 21, 2009
 
Montys python wrote:
<quoted text>My reaction is based on "Money and celebrity talks".The UNOC website clearly states the first priority are 'locals first",next priority are neighboring OPO (Organ Procuring Organization), and finally nationally.I can't believe that there was NO ONE in the Eastern,Midwest or Southern areas of this country who didn't match up for a liver.I stand by my call for an investigation.
I have been signed up as an organ donor for years and I, too, would like to know exactly how it is that wealthy influential people seem to get to the head of the transplant lines and/or special privileges extended when there are many others lingering. Money talks ? You betcha!!
Color this grossly unfair. I want my organs to go to the person who needs it, not demands it.
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Jun 21, 2009
 
aches and pains wrote:
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I have been signed up as an organ donor for years and I, too, would like to know exactly how it is that wealthy influential people seem to get to the head of the transplant lines and/or special privileges extended when there are many others lingering. Money talks ? You betcha!!
Color this grossly unfair. I want my organs to go to the person who needs it, not demands it.
Tell us what you know about Jobs's score on the ranking system that determines urgency. Please.
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#47
Jun 21, 2009
 
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Tell us what you know about Jobs's score on the ranking system that determines urgency. Please.
Apparently, you've got your answer.
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Jun 21, 2009
 
liner wrote:
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Apparently, you've got your answer.
You're right; they know nothing except their own assumptions and grudges against the wealthy.
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