Q&A: What next for US healthcare reform?

Mar 26, 2010 Full story: BBC 13

The House of Representatives has given final approval to legislation overhauling the US healthcare system.

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#1 Mar 27, 2010
The government's plan is a DISASTER. Other choices:
1. Rep. Grayson has a new plan in which people just buy into Medicare.
2. Insurance Corruption has had a similar plan since the summer of '09 in which people would buy into an independent plan, similar to an insurance company, which would make a profit, etc.
Very important: BOTH PLANS ELIMINATE SLEAZY INSURANCE COMPANIES, THEIR FRAUD, CORRUPTION, AND ABUSE.
Remember 9-11, Katrina, and other disasters in which insurance companies refused to pay, defrauding the victims?
Even now, insurance companies are gouging people, raising rates while they have massive profits.

Pick one of these plans, or demand both, but also let your media know you're boycotting them because of their bias. They should have let you know about the insurance corruption. com plan in the summer of 2009. This has been an eye-opening revelation into how biased the US media really is. Make them pay for their part in the deceit.

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#3 May 24, 2010
The insurance companies are the problem, so the last thing we need is to be forced to subsidize their corruption and abuse.

You have other choices - read about them, and help penalize politicians and the media which have denied you the right to know about those choices.
We have to spread the word to make up for media bias.

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Those Opposed to Obama's bill
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Tampa, FL

#5 May 24, 2010
Whats next???.......

pay the friggin price........

and pay the friggin loan to pay the friggin price....

and pay the friggin interest on the friggin loan to pay the friggin price.....
Man

Puyallup, WA

#6 May 24, 2010
Whats next? hmmm..
Well once the Malevolent and Merciful Messiah Obama the Magnificent wins another term as King (because the Repubs have been divided and conquered by the Libs, the Media and the Lib-er-tar-ians) we will finally see the CHANGE that thee Obama Lama has promised.

People on street corners begging for CHANGE.
Mothers with their children wandering the streets
crying, "change, change, does anyone have any change".
And CHANGE will be all we have left once thee Obama is done passing out his pennies from Hell.

un-sustainable debt brought on by Communistic Obamunism will certainly bring about CHANGE!

America danced and now it pays the Fiddler (satan).
HumanSpirit

Lake Butler, FL

#7 May 24, 2010
Get rid of the Mental health Industry that has plagued the health and welfare of the public with no science and has bilked the government and insurance industries on made to order mental illness.. There is no medical model and no evidence based medicine (EBM)and the industry lied about chemical imbalance to compromise the sanity of the people (children and infants).

Violence, Deaths Murders and Suicides from mind drugs.

SSRI stories

http://ssristories.com/index.php

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There Are No "Chemical Imbalances"

"The hypothetical disturbances of neurochemical function that are said to underlie "mental illness" are just that: hypothetical. No experiment has ever shown that anyone has an "imbalance" of any neurotransmitters or any other brain chemicals. Nor could any conceivable experiment demonstrate the existence of a "chemical imbalance," simply because no one, least of all the biopsychiatrists, has the slightest idea what a proper and healthy chemical "balance" would look like."

"...the views and beliefs of biopsychiatry have nothing to do with the answers to scientific questions in any case: the hunt for biological "causes" of "mental illness" is an entirely fallacious enterprise in the first place; the non- existence of data to support its assertions is quite beside the point."

"The latest edition of one pharmacology text has this to say about the status of depression as a disease: "Despite extensive efforts, attempts to document the metabolic changes in human subjects predicted by these [biological] hypotheses have not, on balance, provided consistent or compelling corroboration." This is a long-winded way of admitting that not even a scrap of evidence supports the idea that depression results from a "chemical imbalance." Yet patients are told every day - by their doctors, by the media, and by drug company advertising - that it is a proven scientific fact that depression has a known biochemical origin. It follows directly that millions of Americans are being lied to by their doctors; and people surely can't give informed consent for drug treatment when what they're being "informed" by is a fraud.... To sum up: there is no evidence whatsoever to support the view that "mental illness" is biochemical in origin; in other words, things like "Unipolar Disorder" and "Attention Deficit Disorder" simply do not exist."

http://www.adhd-report.com/biopsychiatry/bio_...

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#8 May 27, 2010
HumanSpirit wrote:
Get rid of the Mental health Industry that has plagued the health and welfare of the public with no science and has bilked the government and insurance industries on made to order mental illness.. There is no medical model and no evidence based medicine (EBM)and the industry lied about chemical imbalance to compromise the sanity of the people (children and infants).
Violence, Deaths Murders and Suicides from mind drugs.
SSRI stories
http://ssristories.com/index.php
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There Are No "Chemical Imbalances"
"The hypothetical disturbances of neurochemical function that are said to underlie "mental illness" are just that: hypothetical. No experiment has ever shown that anyone has an "imbalance" of any neurotransmitters or any other brain chemicals. Nor could any conceivable experiment demonstrate the existence of a "chemical imbalance," simply because no one, least of all the biopsychiatrists, has the slightest idea what a proper and healthy chemical "balance" would look like."
"...the views and beliefs of biopsychiatry have nothing to do with the answers to scientific questions in any case: the hunt for biological "causes" of "mental illness" is an entirely fallacious enterprise in the first place; the non- existence of data to support its assertions is quite beside the point."
"The latest edition of one pharmacology text has this to say about the status of depression as a disease: "Despite extensive efforts, attempts to document the metabolic changes in human subjects predicted by these [biological] hypotheses have not, on balance, provided consistent or compelling corroboration." This is a long-winded way of admitting that not even a scrap of evidence supports the idea that depression results from a "chemical imbalance." Yet patients are told every day - by their doctors, by the media, and by drug company advertising - that it is a proven scientific fact that depression has a known biochemical origin. It follows directly that millions of Americans are being lied to by their doctors; and people surely can't give informed consent for drug treatment when what they're being "informed" by is a fraud.... To sum up: there is no evidence whatsoever to support the view that "mental illness" is biochemical in origin; in other words, things like "Unipolar Disorder" and "Attention Deficit Disorder" simply do not exist."
http://www.adhd-report.com/biopsychiatry/bio_...
I've heard, and do now believe, that our corrupt government agencies, such as the FDC, label as many conditions as possible, as 'diseases' because they've been bought off by the drug companies who can then sell drugs for those conditions and make a fortune.
It also give them the ability to legally prevent anybody from promoting natural cures.
They are PARASITES, destroying lives and quality of life, and the American masses just let it victimize them.

Until the American people take a lesson from the Mexican illegals who stick together and lie for each other for their mutual benefit, nothing will change.
We have to work together on ONE ISSUE, and the American people have already decided that issue is Obama's health care bill because it's abusive and a financial disaster.
Join others and fight back -(see next post)

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#10 Jun 24, 2010
What's next is that we will have a good health care bill, if the American people are doing their job.
Most people have done almost nothing to combat corruption in government (bi!ching doesn't count).
So, this will tell whether they're able to learn, or if they are THAT lazy and stupid.
Every day that goes by means more money down the toilet, OUR money spent on a disaster.
(See #9, especially posts 83 and 86, and the last few posts.)
billingrehab

Bryn Mawr, PA

#11 May 23, 2012
Another thing that should have been added to the "Affordable Health Care Act" is full disclosure of fees the doctors and hospitals. When you are trying to pay yourself or even for insurance companies I think many of these institutions wait and see what you or your insurance company is willing to pay. This means they will always charge on the high end.

Try getting a price upfront and you will not get a straight answer. You can't comparison shop because that's what many patients have to do. The hospitals are the worst because they might discount a procedure but nail you with the 100 dollar aspirin or an excessively nursing charge to get their desired fees(not necessarily needed or reasonable).
Cat74

United States

#12 May 23, 2012
The President, and Democrats took kick backs from Hospital Associations, and Big Pharma, then wrote an Unconstitutional law. It was shoved through Congress on Christmas Eve by one of the most corrupt Sepakers of the House we ever had, Nancy Pelosi. However it will be ruled Unconstitutional by the S C next month. The Republicns have a health reform bill ready to vote on in the House, and will take it to the new Senate in January. All's well that end's well.

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#13 May 23, 2012
Sleazy insurance companies really got us on Obama Care.
For years I've tried to push a compromise which would give the American people the best benefits and revenge against insurance companies who have driven good people to homelessness or death.

Unfortunately, the American masses just aren't that smart, so they'll either end up being victimized by insurance companies all their lives, or will end up with NO heath care. Stupid!

I posted thousands of times about these plans:
1. Insurance Corruption lets the federal government set up its own insurance COMPANY which would COMPETE against the crooks. With no advertising or CEOs who demand high salaries and kickbacks, etc. the cost would be less and benefits higher.

2. Alan Grayson (FL) had a plan where people would just buy into Medicare, but Brain-Dead Florida Republicans voted him out.

3. There were also single-payer plans which Obama had promised liberals until AFTER he was elected.
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Cat74

United States

#15 May 23, 2012
I hope the deadbeats have to pay something. I am so sick of freebies. I refuse to accept Government owned healthcare. It has to come through Blue Cross or some like company. Bad enough we have to buy the idlers computers, and put them on the internet. We housse them, and feed them, and give them free healthcare. They exploit their children, and use the money for the Children for flat screen T Vs. We are now putting Blackberries in their hands, and multiple cell phones per family. Honestly, is that fair? What in God;s name have these people done to deserve all these luxuries? At least during the Great Depression Government made the poor work for what they were given, and there were no luxuries for anyone.

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#16 May 25, 2012
There were always luxuries and freebies for the wealthy.
I dislike abuses from the poor, but DESPISE the CRIMES committed by the wealthy.
Republicans are like a broken record when it comes to attacking the poor, and their complaints all sound alike, as if they're just repeating wht somebody else said.

That's why California is rotting from all the corruption.
People need to get off THEIR dead azzes and FIGHT THE GOVERNMENT,
JOIN the Wall St. protesters and MARCH,
quit electing the most corrupt person in law enforcement to be governor,
etc.
I've repeated these things for many years, but it's so much EASIER for LAZY Republicans to BI!CH.
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#17 May 25, 2012
Republicans and Democrats agree
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/TGQE2G...

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