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Mad Cow Disease

Audit says USDA lost track of imported cattle

Despite persistent fears of mad cow disease in Canadian beef, the Department of Agriculture has failed to properly track hundreds of Canadian cattle coming into the United States, the department's inspector ...

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Jul 23, 2008
 
And my friends wonder why I refuse to eat beef.
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Jul 23, 2008
 
nice article!

don't these dummies know by now that the USA does not have any mad cow disease and or any human cjd ramifications from a mad cow, cause the USDA says so... NOT

there has been a decade old, systematic cover-up of corporate homicide just because of trade, futures and commodities. the elderly demented, your grandma and grandpa, mom and dad, sisters and brothers, are all expendable, due to the fact the American joe-cue-public is just to damn lazy to care. the elderly and demented are expendable. but mark my word here and now, it's here, and has been, call it what you like.....

10 people killed by new CJD-like disease

Public release date: 9-Jul-2008

Since Gambetti's team wrote a paper describing an initial 11 cases referred to his centre between 2002 and 2006 (Annals of Neurology, vol 63, p 697), another five have come to light. "So it is possible that it could be just the tip of the iceberg," Gambetti says.

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http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-0...

sporadic CJD, the big lie

Thursday, July 10, 2008 A Novel Human Disease with Abnormal Prion Protein Sensitive to Protease update July 10, 2008

http://cjdmadcowbaseoct2007.blogspot.com/2008...

MAD COW DISEASE terminology UK c-BSE (typical), atypical BSE H or L, and or Italian L-BASE

http://bse-atypical.blogspot.com/2008/03/mad-...

Saturday, June 21, 2008 HUMAN and ANIMAL TSE Classifications i.e. mad cow disease and the UKBSEnvCJD only theory JUNE 2008

http://cjdmadcowbaseoct2007.blogspot.com/2008...

if you will notice on the forms page on the cjd foundation site, there is not cjd questionnaire ??? strange...

http://www.cjdsurveillance.com/forms.html

Monday, July 21, 2008
Massachusetts patient tested for mad cow disease Sunday, July 20, 2008 8:33 PM

http://cjdmadcowbaseoct2007.blogspot.com/2008...

Monday, July 21, 2008
Officials await tests on man for human Mad Cow Disease (Texas)

http://cjdtexas.blogspot.com/2008/07/official...

CJD TEXAS (cjd clusters)

http://cjdtexas.blogspot.com/

BSE BASE MAD COW TESTING TEXAS, USA, AND CANADA

http://madcowtesting.blogspot.com/

Terry S. Singeltary Sr.
P.O. Box 42
Bacliff, Texas USA 77518
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Jul 23, 2008
 
Wow... I had no idea that the Americans actually viewed Canada as having a 'disease problem'.
Awesome.
Sorta the pot calling the kettle black, but that's neither here nor there. At least we report our findings.
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Jul 23, 2008
 
so glad I'm vegan....so very glad
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Jul 23, 2008
 
Well I'll take my chances eating beef, I happen to really like it! It makes me laugh when I see people get so wound up over this disease. When we ban smoking, drinking, and erradicate illegal drugs, then I say start on silly things like beef. How many people drink themselves to an early grave, or drive themselves (and others) to that grave? Not to mention heart and liver disease that cause tremendous burden on our health care system. Smoking is also legal and a killer. It makes no sense that a person would not be afraid to put that cigarette in their mouth, but be afraid of meat? Does anyone out there realize that the media is a business just like any other? They are looking for customers (as is PETA,HSUS, etc.) If a topic is sensationalized, it brings more viewers,(or donations). Use some common sense! If the media would give all the facts about this disease, there would be alot less silliness that goes on. Facts such as the reason so many Britons contracted the disease is becuase in that country, brains were routinley mixed with hamburger as an emulsifier. Not done here. We don't eat things like that, maybe people did during the depression, I don't know. It is not even proven 100% that BSE is the cause of CJD. The issue of Canadian cattle coming here to be slaughtered only bothers me for 1 reason, and that is if another one has BSE (I refuse to call it "mad cow") it will once again be sensationalized in the media to the point that many hard working people will be put out of business. The media never thinks of that. If cattle ranchers are to be portrayed as villains because of a very remote chance that their product may cause a disease, then all alcohol and cigarette makers should be too. Let's also throw in video game makers for contributing to obesity and violence, casinos (lots of smoking and drinking going on there), etc. etc.
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Jul 23, 2008
 
Stads wrote:
so glad I'm vegan....so very glad
Yeah, all you have to worry about is salmonella tainted vegetables!
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Jul 23, 2008
 
Salmonella tainted vegetables, and health problems associated with a lack of protein in the diet. This is the point trying to be made-it's not a perfect world, and we're not guaranteed a completely "safe" life, no matter what morning news show anchor tells you you are.
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Jul 23, 2008
 
Skep Tackle wrote:
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Yeah, all you have to worry about is salmonella tainted vegetables!
you mean like the tomato scare...oh wait tomatoes are fruits. Yes, I agree though, the food quality in this country is quickly spiraling out of control, but it can be stopped...no worries my flesh eating friends, we'll all live.
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Jul 23, 2008
 
anna wrote:
Salmonella tainted vegetables, and health problems associated with a lack of protein in the diet. This is the point trying to be made-it's not a perfect world, and we're not guaranteed a completely "safe" life, no matter what morning news show anchor tells you you are.
High levels of protein in nuts, grains, seeds and tofu....higher than red meat....
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Jul 23, 2008
 
True-nuts and tofu are high in protein, but not everyone can eat nuts, and tofu is disgusting (in my opinion). I feel everyone is entitled to choose their own diet, veganism doesn't bother me at all. The problem I have is that so much misinformation and ant-meat propaganda is presented. I feel that meat is a safe, nutrient rich food, that I really enjoy eating. That includes chicken, pork, and turkey along with beef. I also enjoy wild game, though I leave it up to my husband and sons to provide that!
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Jul 23, 2008
 
what burns me up is when mad-cow was first found on this continent, many american beef farmers wanted to test their herds for CJV, so they could export beef and not go broke, and the USDA WOULDN'T LET THEM.
I bet it's only a matter of time before there's like, mad spinach disease or something from cow fragments scattered across vegetable fields as fertilizer, so eventually it won't matter what you eat...
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Jul 23, 2008
 
So, another example of the government botching something on our taxpayer dime. Don't tell me you're serious about government run health care. What a disaster waiting to happen.
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Jul 23, 2008
 
I don't think the USDA is the most reputable of government agencies (maybe none are). However, the reasons that we don't test all cattle is because in younger cattle it would be a waste of money because the disease has never been found in an animal less than 3 1/2 years of age. Most cattle in the US that are processed are around 1 1/2 to 2 years old. Older cows are more at risk, but all the risk material is removed at slaughter anyway. As I've said over and over, the media hypes this disease because it brings viewers to their stations. I just finished reading an article from a Cape Cod newspaper where they are testing a woman for CJD. Of course the media has been ga-ga over this, but they have failed to print all the facts (facts sometimes aren't scary enough to attract viewers). The facts stated by the Dr. involved are that CJD occurs naturally in about 1 in every million people, and Mass. has 6 or 7 cases a year that are in no way connected to BSE. Too bad if that isn't exciting, but that's the way it is. The Dr. says it is extremely rare to contract CJD from eating beef, and they don't think this woman did, but you won't hear that on the TV. Meanwhile, the speculators on Wall Street use this "info" to play games with cattle futures and wreak havoc for the people who raise cattle for a living. Please people, realize the media is a BUSINESS that needs viewers!
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Jul 23, 2008
 
Why the hell are we importing beef from Canada? I thought this was the country of amber waves of grain, Texas beef, etc., etc.. Oh probably the same reason we get oranges in California imported from Mexico!????????
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Jul 23, 2008
 
we are importing Canadian cattle because the feedlots in the US can buy their calves cheaper than in our own country. We also import alot of Mexican cattle for the same reason. When COOL (country of origin labeling) goes into effect, people will be able to choose if they want to buy US product, or product from another country. In the case of hamburger, unless it states USA, it could be from many different countries as hamburger is a mixed product. Currently, the US mixes lower quality South American beef with high quality US beef to produce hamburger. This makes it cheaper than using all US meat. Kinda like how alot of people will buy Chinese products over US products because they are cheaper. That may not always be the wise choice!
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Jul 23, 2008
 
The USDA intends to import cattle from EVERYWHERE while our beef goes over seas including importing from countries who have known diseases such as foot and mouth. Should this disease come unto US soil all animals that are in the vicinity will be destroyed.

One person mentioned that the USDA will not allow any private testing for Mad Cow is very correct. See R-Calf

I would like to make one point the USDA wont test cattle due to this phase..Aims to ensure that governments do not use quarantine and food safety requirements as Unjustified trade barriers to protect domestic industries from import competition. It provides Member countries with a right to implement traceability as an SPS measure http://www.oie.int/eng/publicat/rt/2002/WILSO...

Do you understand what this means to you whether you eat meat or are a vegan, They can not test or quarantine due to world trade agreements. That means food will and can come into the US without testing. The powers to be to not care about your health but of profits only.

Now the USDA intends to make everyone who owns one of the listed livestock species to comply with the National animal Identification System, that means livestock owners must register there premises (Property) with the Federal Government. All animals who leave your premises (property) will require animal Identification, Then you must report all commingling movement at a cost to the the livestock owner. This cost has yet to be announced but there will be a cost.
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Jul 24, 2008
 
Stads wrote:
so glad I'm vegan....so very glad
I'm glad I grow my own beef, pork, mutton, chicken, eggs, veggies....so very glad
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Jul 24, 2008
 
reason wrote:
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I'm glad I grow my own beef, pork, mutton, chicken, eggs, veggies....so very glad
you should be, good for you,just so long as they're well-taken care of.
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Jul 24, 2008
 
I encourage all beef producers to support R-Calf, NCBA is a joke and a pawn for USDA. I believe R-Calf has the interests of the independent cattleman at heart because they are cattle people. Our US beef is superior to many of the countries from which we import beef, and we should be proud of that, not eager to melt ourselves into a "North American" beef produst.
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Jul 24, 2008
 
Animal ID and tracking is about Asset Forfeiture not food afety.
First the five step program is the brain child of Tag manufacturers and Multinational Big Ag.(NAII)

Second the proposed regs are aimed at the 20% who own Family farms. Big AG (80%) get one number on paper (no tags) for the entire herd. Grandma has to tag her chickens while Tyson does nothing and claims how much safer their chicken products are.

Third Big Ag gets to control the Data Base. Not only do they set and collect fees everytime a 4-H kid shows or a little girl rides her pony to a neighbor, Big AG determines WHO is responsible for the disease and gets sued.(Any bets it is ALWAYS traced to a family farm and not a Factory Farm?)

For the family farmers who do not quit because of animal ID, Guide to Good Farming Practices is waiting. Paperwork not in order? you face $1000 to $500,000 in fines per occurance. England has already had a case where officials confiscated a man's paperwork and then came back a couple months later and killed all his animals because he could not produce the confiscated papers. What a neat setup.

A study of asset forfeiture's impact on police procedure, Drug Enforcement's Double-Edged Sword: An Assessment of Asset Forfeiture Programs: http://www.fear.org/chron/study.txt said the policy forces law enforcement agencies to subordinate justice to profit.
Results from the study revealed a concentration on seizing real property with a high value. In addition, real property seizures are preplanned and commonly made under the controversial facilitation statute. Will the proposed regs let Big Ag use the USDA to confiscate farmland from families? Will massive regulation make backyard gardens extinct?

Is there evidence that the USDA is turning away from Food Safety?
Government testing for bovine tuberculosis in California from 10,576 tests in 1995 to 5,100 in 1994 to 1,425 in 1999, USDA border checks turned over to Chihuahuan Cattle Producers' Association despite the high prevalence of bovine tuberculosis in Mexican cattle. Dr. Logan... said,“the disease is extremely rare in U.S. herds. How- ever, more TB-lesioned cattle are being detected at slaughter, and ear tags indicate that many of these animals are of Mexican origin.” Prior to 1994, only eight wild white-tailed or mule deer had been reported with bovine TB in North America To date, 397 deer and two elk were confirmed with disease.

"...it frustrates me and many of my members when we are told by our supervisors... not to write non-compliance reports...the agency's databases may not contain accurate information... because of pressure being applied not to write them up for violations...."
Testimony Of Stanley Painter, Chairman National Joint Council of Food Inspection Local Unions, during the Hallmark investigation. http://domesticpolicy.oversight.house.gov/sto...

Do you really trust the USDA if Big AG is writting the rules???
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