Price Chopper recalls some ground beef

Interesting that the burden is on the customer to fix the mistake of Price Chopper and their supplier. We are the ones who have to search for meat in those dates and go through the aggravation of returning it to the store without any compensation from Price Chopper other than the original price paid.

Alex, where's the beef?

and why are we just finding out now that there is a recall for beef from Sept/Oct?? ew!

Buyer beware! If customers were more diligent in demanding better quality meats from factories and farms with higher standards we might not have this problem as much. Or if people bought locally more often. We all love convenience, but this is the price we have to pay for it.

What does LMZ even mean wrote:

Buyer beware! If customers were more diligent in demanding better quality meats from factories and farms with higher standards we might not have this problem as much. Or if people bought locally more often. We all love convenience, but this is the price we have to pay for it.

If customers were vegetarians, they wouldn't have to worry about this at all.

A Better Way wrote:

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If customers were vegetarians, they wouldn't have to worry about this at all.

WRONG.. what about the E.coli infected veggies that were ripped from the shelves not to long ago? due to the immigrant workers crapping in the fields..

lurker wrote:

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WRONG.. what about the E.coli infected veggies that were ripped from the shelves not to long ago? due to the immigrant workers crapping in the fields..

Was the e.coli on the inside or outside of the veggies?

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Was the e.coli on the inside or outside of the veggies?

not sure, but it was made public that it was from human feces. they were crapping in the fields while working.

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not sure, but it was made public that it was from human feces. they were crapping in the fields while working.

Yes, thats where it came from, and if you washed the fruits and veggies before eating them there was no problem. And workers crapping in the fields is still more sanitary than conditions in a slaughterhouse.

Vegetarianism is not as healthy as being a meat eater (as long as it is the recommended amount of meat consumed). There are many nutrients lacking that are more abundant from meat sources. If more people were vegetarians they would really have to put their best foot forward and think out how they're going to get all the essential nutrients they need to survive. And let's face it, not many people are willing enough.

I'm willing! Oh wait, what are we talking about???

LSU wrote:

I'm willing! Oh wait, what are we talking about???

Probably not what you are thinking about!

What does LMZ even mean wrote:

Vegetarianism is not as healthy as being a meat eater (as long as it is the recommended amount of meat consumed). There are many nutrients lacking that are more abundant from meat sources. If more people were vegetarians they would really have to put their best foot forward and think out how they're going to get all the essential nutrients they need to survive. And let's face it, not many people are willing enough.

Sorry, but you are totally misinformed. I've been a vegetarian for 15 years and am in the best shape of my life. Prior to going meatless, I had high cholesterol and borderline hypertension despite despite a rigorous exercise regimen. Now both are in the low normal range. What nutrients do you think I am lacking?

A Better Way wrote:

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Sorry, but you are totally misinformed. I've been a vegetarian for 15 years and am in the best shape of my life. Prior to going meatless, I had high cholesterol and borderline hypertension despite despite a rigorous exercise regimen. Now both are in the low normal range. What nutrients do you think I am lacking?

First off it depends on what kind of vegetarianism you follow. There are many different kinds. Second, I am aware that there are many benefits of vegetarianism such as decrease in obesity, decrease in risk of heart disease, cancer, etc. Certain meat replacement foods are high in sugar, salt, and other additives that fall short nutrient wise compared to their meat counterparts. Iron and zinc are also not abundant enough in the vegetarian diet because both are more easily absorbed from meat rather than vegetable and other sources. Soy interferes with zinc absorption. Vitamin B12 and vitamin D are also nutrients that are lacking in vegetarians because vitamin b12 is only found naturally in animal derived foods. To consume enough vitamin B12, foods fortified with the vitamin need to be consumed. Vitamin D fortified foods must also be consumed daily, as well as a few minutes of unprotected sun exposure depending on how dark your skin tone is. If you eat a diet abundant in a variety of fruits, vegetables, nuts, WHOLE grains, and fats then you will be fine as long as you are checked for deficiencies of the aforementioned nutrients by your doctor. And if you are deficient in any you need to supplement them in your diet, otherwise, you are not healthy.

Misinformed? Right.

What does LMZ even mean wrote:

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First off it depends on what kind of vegetarianism you follow. There are many different kinds. Second, I am aware that there are many benefits of vegetarianism such as decrease in obesity, decrease in risk of heart disease, cancer, etc. Certain meat replacement foods are high in sugar, salt, and other additives that fall short nutrient wise compared to their meat counterparts. Iron and zinc are also not abundant enough in the vegetarian diet because both are more easily absorbed from meat rather than vegetable and other sources. Soy interferes with zinc absorption. Vitamin B12 and vitamin D are also nutrients that are lacking in vegetarians because vitamin b12 is only found naturally in animal derived foods. To consume enough vitamin B12, foods fortified with the vitamin need to be consumed. Vitamin D fortified foods must also be consumed daily, as well as a few minutes of unprotected sun exposure depending on how dark your skin tone is. If you eat a diet abundant in a variety of fruits, vegetables, nuts, WHOLE grains, and fats then you will be fine as long as you are checked for deficiencies of the aforementioned nutrients by your doctor. And if you are deficient in any you need to supplement them in your diet, otherwise, you are not healthy.
Misinformed? Right.

I apologize, I meant to say your initial statement about a carnivorous (or omnivorous) diet being more healthy than a vegetarian one is not accurate. You are correct that a vegetarian has to have a well balanced diet to obtain necessary nutrients. I eat fortified soy and other products, and foods that complement one another in a synergistic fashion to form complete proteins. And yes it is true that phytates in plant foods do bind to zinc inhibiting the bodies ability to absorb it, but there are work arounds. Just as meat eaters have learned to balance their diets, vegetarians have too, and without worries such as trichinosis, and other such animal born parasites.

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I apologize, I meant to say your initial statement about a carnivorous (or omnivorous) diet being more healthy than a vegetarian one is not accurate. You are correct that a vegetarian has to have a well balanced diet to obtain necessary nutrients. I eat fortified soy and other products, and foods that complement one another in a synergistic fashion to form complete proteins. And yes it is true that phytates in plant foods do bind to zinc inhibiting the bodies ability to absorb it, but there are work arounds. Just as meat eaters have learned to balance their diets, vegetarians have too, and without worries such as trichinosis, and other such animal born parasites.

I did say as long as the recommended amount of meat was consumed though. I guess that statement was too generalized. Vegetarian diets are beneficial, one reason being the smaller amounts of saturated fats consumed. If a meat eater eats the correct DRI of lean meat as well as the correct portion size, as well as consumes only low fat dairy products in a diet mixed with many fruits, veggies, nuts, legumes, whole grains, and some oils, and limits all other foods, they'll get everything they need. The key is eating the leanest meats possible to avoid over intake of saturated fat and same goes for low fat dairy. In theory, as my own opinion, a omnivore diet is a healthier option in a sense because it requires less effort to attain all the necessary nutrients. The average person does not like to do all the extra work in thinking out meals. However, in actuality, vegetarianism, depending on what kind you are referring to, can be healthier as long as all nutrients are obtained by being creative and smart about your choices. However we both know that the average diet of an omnivore does not contain selections low in saturated fats and correctly sized portions and this is why so many meat eaters are unhealthy. Also, it is a well known fact that vegetarians are usually healthier than meat eaters because they consume a larger variety in their diets and they consume more whole grains as well as all the other good things to compensate for the meat loss and because some are more health conscious.

I'm curious, what kind of vegetarian are you? I've considered becoming one but it's difficult for me with my carnivorous boyfriend whispering sweet suggestions for dinner in my ear! lol If i were to become one i would most likely still consume dairy and fish, if i could get myself to actually like fish that is!

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Interesting that the burden is on the customer to fix the mistake of Price Chopper and their supplier. We are the ones who have to search for meat in those dates and go through the aggravation of returning it to the store without any compensation from Price Chopper other than the original price paid.

Chopper is not at fault here. But they do have a great way to let customers know if they did buy the bad beef. We use our Advantage Card because I like getting money off at Sunoco stations. And one other time there was a recall of something I bought at Chopper and I got an email from Chopper saying their records show I purchased that item and to return it. I did not get any notification this time so I'm sure I didn't buy the tainted beef.

So today I think I'm gonna have a nice, thick, juicy, steak for dinner!