the pro-adjuster

"liar liar pants on fire", ha ha ha Is that the best you've got?

Facts are facts my boy. Sorry you ever got involved with chiropractic. There are many that feel the same way as you do. There is a way out.

Best of luck. First, try to be honest with yourself. Admit that you got NO actual clinical training in treating any disease other than simple neck and back conditions. Only then will you be ready to move forward.

Wisdom wrote:

"liar liar pants on fire", ha ha ha Is that the best you've got?
Facts are facts my boy. Sorry you ever got involved with chiropractic. There are many that feel the same way as you do. There is a way out.
Best of luck. First, try to be honest with yourself. Admit that you got NO actual clinical training in treating any disease other than simple neck and back conditions. Only then will you be ready to move forward.

The creep, wisdom Sandusky, just proved my point again. It isn't creepy enough he refers to baby diapers all the time. With each post, wisdom S just can't seem to get his mind off of pants. Look above. He just did it again, wisdom's line, "liar liar pants on fire." Why does this disturbed creature keep mentioning diapers and pants?? Whoa, man.
What's with this creep?
No shock that wisdom help elect Anthony Weiner. He's wisdom's kind of guy.

Nice spelling oh "wise one". I am sure it is reflective of your extreme lack of education and consequently your personal void of comprehensive capabilities. The aggregate bodily effects of true chiropractic care are vastly researched and substantiated. "...they know not what they say."

drscoot wrote:

Nice spelling oh "wise one". I am sure it is reflective of your extreme lack of education and consequently your personal void of comprehensive capabilities. The aggregate bodily effects of true chiropractic care are vastly researched and substantiated. "...they know not what they say."

Drscoot,

It's typical of a loser like wisdom to masquerade as THE chiropractic expert when there is a TRUE chiropractic expert with REAL degrees. Scott Haldeman, DC,MD, PHD is a REAL expert with real degrees, real experience, and is widely published.
http://www.wfc.org/website/index2.php... Look him up, too many published articles in peer reviewed jounals to list here. What has 'wisdom' published? he he he Oh, he publishes here--using words like diaper, quack, and dumb ass. Yeah, a real expert. he he he he
By comparison, wisdom is the discarded afterbirth, a rotten placenta that has no function once you see it.
The fake, wisdom, has ZERO medical credentials. Even he knows that. His dream is to be 1/50th of what Dr. Scott Haldeman is.
Oh, and you don't see Dr. Haldeman use works like quack, dumb ass, morons, idiots, and diaper (the mark of wisdom's professionalism).
Wisdom would do well to shine Haldeman's shoes and get him a latte.
Wisdom is a fraud.

Ah dr. scoot, another chiropractor attempting to elevate his status by pointing out spelling errors. Very "chiropractic" of you. Feel better now?

Tell me mr. chiropractor, what chiropractic technique(s) do you use to locate and eliminate those pesky chiropractic subluxations? hmmmm?

For a guy who is mired in a field in which the majority of chiropractors use quackery, ie activator, nucca, hio, dnft, sot, network and ak, to "treat" people, I should think you would be a little more humble. But no, you will support every unfounded and dumb ass chiropractic technique out there. Much like your fellow quack washboy.

dr. scooter, your colleague washboy has claimed that he is an expert at curing deep wounds. And I know as well as you know, that chiropractors get no actual clinical training in wound care. Feel free to denounce him. You won't because chiropractors never denounce other chiropractors, no matter how bizarre their claims.

You see, as a DC, MD, PhD, I am one of the foremost experts on the chiropractic enterprise. I spend a few minutes each day exposing chiropractic quackery.

Dr. Haldeman knows where his bread is buttered. He makes some good money telling chiropractors exactly what they want to hear. Even he will never address the bizarre and unfounded treatments that his fellow chiropractors use. Why would he want to renounce and denounce, say, activator chiropractors? More than 60% of all chiropractors use that bizarre clicker.(a reconditioned dental clicker promoted by one of chiropractic's most stupid characters, arlan fuhr) By the way, NO valid research exists for using the clicker for any condition, and yet thousands of chiropractors use it on patients with all sorts of illnesses and conditions. Why? because chiropractic is filled with charlatans and quacks.

The chiropractic diaper needs to be unloaded. pronto.

he he he
A real chiropractic/medical expert has been published, not once but hundreds of times in recognized professional journals. Dr. Scott Haldeman, DC, MD, Phd has REAL degrees and has been published in peer reviewed chiropractic and medical journals. Dr. Haldeman is respected. Wisdom is the laughing stock. Wisdom is masquerading as an expert with his bogus, shell degrees. Wisdom lied. He has no professional degrees.
Look up Dr. Scott Haldeman, DC, MD, Phd and review all the journals where he was published including JAMA! Dr. Haldeman is THE chiropractic expert and is a brilliant man. Not a fake like wisdom.
Where has wisdom 'the expert' been published and recognized? Here? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HA HA AH AHA HA HA OWNED!!!!!!!!

You really have a problem with understanding English.

Haldeman needs to grow a set and start denouncing all the chiropractic quackery. Like I said, he knows where his bread is bettered. By you and all your fellow quacks that hold him out as "evidence that all the bizarre chiropractic techniques work".

And thanks .for making my point that most chiropractors are utterly ignorant and full of crap.

Haldeman .... Ha ha

"published" ... Ha ha. Gee I missed his research articles on the bizarre techniques like activator, AK, dnft, network, impulse, nucca, sot, hio ........

You are such a lying dumb ass mr. Washboy.

Oh, I'm listening....to a seething jealous idiot who would be lucky to shine Haldeman's shoes.

ha ha ha! Another 'expert' professional post by wisdom. This time the expert says "dumb ass". Just like a true professional.
See, Dr. Scott Haldeman, DC, MD, Phd has REAL degrees, unlike the fraud wisdom. See, Dr. Haldeman has been published in HUNDREDS of peer reviewed chiropractic and medical journals, including JAMA.
Oh, one more time, where has wisdom been published? Again please? Can't hear you. Oh, he HASN'T been published? Thought so! Some expert. Oh wait, he was self published HERE! Right here on TOPIX! Hey, that's good enough for HIS peers! AHHHHHHHHHHH HA AH AH AHA HA HA H HA AH HAA H. FRAAAAAAAAUUUUDDDD!!!

I have been a patient of a chiropractor, who uses the ProAdjuster system for 8 years. I am a satisfied customer. It has worked for me. I was a regular user of pain medication for years previous to treatment, now however I rarely use it. If it is quackery, I'm not sure what has helped me????
I don't think you can berate a system you have not tried yourself.

Susan wrote:

I have been a patient of a chiropractor, who uses the ProAdjuster system for 8 years. I am a satisfied customer. It has worked for me. I was a regular user of pain medication for years previous to treatment, now however I rarely use it. If it is quackery, I'm not sure what has helped me????
I don't think you can berate a system you have not tried yourself.

It's the placebo effect.

Cody wrote:

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It's the placebo effect.

Susan,
This goofball, mrcody, is not qualified in any way to advise you. He's a loser who admitted he couldn't make it in practice. His only mental relief now is to bash chiropractic. You know, psychological therapy for himself. Like self medicating.

Bottom line: You got relief from a chiropractor when no one else could help you. That's what counts--not some clown like mrcody who has a pathological jealousy of successful chiropractors. He can't help it. Anger and frustration are part of his makeup.

Defending the "pro adjuster"? You certainly are a quack through and through.

Feel free to link all you "pro adjuster" evidence.

Oh wait, there isn't any. Gee, did I just expose you as a quack? Again?

Wisdom wrote:

Defending the "pro adjuster"? You certainly are a quack through and through.
Feel free to link all you "pro adjuster" evidence.
Oh wait, there isn't any. Gee, did I just expose you as a quack? Again?

I repeat:
Susan,
This goofball, mrcody, is not qualified in any way to advise you. He's a loser who admitted he couldn't make it in practice. His only mental relief now is to bash chiropractic. You know, psychological therapy for himself. Like self medicating.

Bottom line: You got relief from a chiropractor when no one else could help you. That's what counts--not some clown like mrcody who has a pathological jealousy of successful chiropractors. He can't help it. Anger and frustration are part of his makeup.

Everyone responds differently and if it helps great! Many people have used chiros with good results.. I've not tried for chronic back issues but ive tried acupuncture and it worked wonders even though not very pleasant to endure. As with any treatment, ensure qualified person performs procedure.

So "just me", how does one find out if a chiropractor is qualified using the "pro adjuster" if NO evidence exists that it is good for anything?

Ever hear of the placebo effect? A chiropractor's best friend.

Wisdom wrote:

So "just me", how does one find out if a chiropractor is qualified using the "pro adjuster" if NO evidence exists that it is good for anything?
Ever hear of the placebo effect? A chiropractor's best friend.

Just Me, wisdom is known here as the resident liar. He has zero professional degrees or credentials. Just an angry loser who bashes chiropractic.

Wisdom wrote:

So "just me", how does one find out if a chiropractor is qualified using the "pro adjuster" if NO evidence exists that it is good for anything?
Ever hear of the placebo effect? A chiropractor's best friend.

As a nurse, yes I've heard of the placebo effect. The chiros I've worked around was mds but as with anytthing, call the office and ask about qualifications, issues with license, etc.. Ithey cannot release pt details but if lion probation, etc they are suppose to tell the pt when asked. I've not used pro-adjustor but with acupuncture, it was performed by a md who had additionally trained to use acupuncture to help with pain relief of cancer pts she treated. I know there are was a place im knox that offer acupuncture by untrained staff and was shut down. Massage therapy also helped me and the principle behind it (as well as acupuncture) is it helps release endorphins (neuropepttides) and helps ease pain as well as feel good.
You are correct that there is not scientific ptoof chiro or acupuncture works but many people swear both help. But even if it is in their mind, if it helps then the goal is met. For yrs, the medical community has labeled chiro as "quack" medicine but it is changing.
Just because you do not think it works, doesn't mean she or anyone else should not have that option. For myself, I would rather try chiro before surgery if that was an option.

Washington Chiro wrote:

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Just Me, wisdom is known here as the resident liar. He has zero professional degrees or credentials. Just an angry loser who bashes chiropractic.

Thank you. One of my fav a&p teachers was a chiro and talked about the poor misconceptions on chiropractors. Even of it is considered placebo effect, who cares of it helps?

" For yrs, the medical community has labeled chiro as "quack" medicine but it is changing. "

Yes they have. With good reason. Not one chiropractic technique/treatment has been shown to be god for anything.

As for you rationalization that "chiropractic" is OK because it might just be a placebo effect, then you are lacking rational thinking. NO person or insurance company should be paying for "placebo" treatments. That's unscientific and that's fraud. Period. Thank goodness real medical care doesn't involve such thinking.

Just me. there are NO misconceptions about chiropractic here. I was a chiropractor. Nothing I have posted is incorrect.

Matter of fact, your friend washboy above has claimed that he can cure "deep wounds" as a chiropractor. I work in hospitals, particularly in critical care. I know and work with wound care specialists. One thing is for sure. NO chiropractor is qualified to treat wounds. Period.

You have a lot to learn if you think it is OK for chiropractors to "treat" people and depend on "placebo" to help them.

Just Me,

Of course wisdom is lying.
If you go back to his previous posts, each one is an angry rant. He says he's a failed chiropractor. He stated that dozens of times. Now he's bitter and he blames chiropractic, not himself. A failure only has to look in the mirror to see wo's at fault.
Just recently he's padded his fake credentials. He suddenly became a board certified neurosurgeon who heads a neurosurgery department at a major NY hospital. He suddenly obtained his Phd in neurology. He suddenly wrote a text on neurosurgery that, in his words, "Is required reading at all major medical schools." Yet he still has time to treat us with his chiropracitc bashing. As long as he's lying, he might as well tell the BIG lie.
You do the math.