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I hope this is the correct place for this question. I have a 3.5 year old son, that has limited speech. He can say a few words, and will repeat anything, but can't carry conversation. He was evealuated by Early interventions, and diagnosed with Verbal apraxia, and they said they saw no signs of Autism.(that was one year ago) Some of the things he does that concerns me, are
1. Flaps his hands when he has something it them (pencil,stick etc.) otherwise no flapping
2. lines up his baby sister's bottles in a row, but dosen't mind if you stop him, or put them back
3. when we go outside, he takes his toy lawn mower and will continuesly push it over the same thing for 10 minutes or more.
4. likes to watch the clothes wash in our front load washer
5. he does play with his 3 year old brother some, and they laugh and have fun, but will often wonder away and do his own thing
6. when outside he will respond to his name only if you YELL loud, and will not come when called unless you YELL louder
7. He loves affection, and hugs, and he does make eye contact
8. he will watch the same cartoon movie over and over and over etc.....
9. he does have trouble expressing his wants, since he can't talk that well, and he does not get it on using gestures
10. he is not bothered by loud noises or crowded places, and friendly to people he meets
11. he does not have bad tantrums, or do any self injury to himself
overall he is very happy, but some of his actions worry me, and I think it is Autism, but I can't get him in to an evaluation until Feb. 2010, and just wanted some ideas. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks
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Since: Jan 07
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Matt~ Early Intervention would mean the school district? Unless you have regional centers, schools cant diagnosis a medical condition. Many of the intervention approaches would be the same as it would be for many other disorder's, however some disorders wouldn't need O.T and it seems your child might need that. It's always hard to tell someone on line if it sounds like autism. Below is an on line screening tool. Those I've shared it with, the ending score some agreed with, some didn't but I didn't come across the link until after my son was diagnosed and for me, it was right on. Those are the things a doctor would look for anyway, so while doing the screening you'll get an idea of autism behaviors. If you think it's more than what the school states, locate a psychologist or psychiatrist or a developmental peds doctor. In states that don't have regional centers, they cant term the IEP a medical condition w/o the medical diagnosis.
online Assessment scale this is a Assessment used as a "tool" for PDD http://www.childbrain.com/pddassess.html |
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“I am just me!” Since: Feb 08
Brenton Now ISP: Pineville, WV |
Friend is absolutely correct. I know exactly how you feel. I went through the same thing, I am still in the process of trying to get my 5 year old diagnosed. |
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1 When a child is 3 they enter the school system. Your son will then be eligible for a diagnostic assessment funded by the school system. Put your request in writing. Keep note of the date. They have 30 calendar days to either turn you down in WRITING with clear reasons against the assessment, or they must have him tested, within that 30 days. I will say that due to the small number of diagnosticians who specialize in autism, it might take 2 or 3 months just to get the assessment done. in that case, the school must prove that they have a date set for the assessment and must get you to sign a waiver indicating that you understand the reason for the delay. http://www.specialneedsresources.net |
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Since: Jan 07
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Depending on where you live, the school district will not at all pay for a medical diagnosis. They do things very differently in California. Early intervention cant do a medical diagnosis, they will and can evaluate for special education services, which is not the same as a medical diagnosis.
Once this parent get's a medical diagnosis, they can go back to the school district and ask them to evaluate per the diagnosis, and the IEP can then be termed autism and services can be added per that child. Not every child requires set services, either. PDD-NOS was created due to children having delays, but fit no where on the autism DSM which includes about 4 disorders. These children needed services but they needed a medical DX to get them. PDD-NOS is a catch-all DX and controversial to say the least. For years parents and professionals have been trying to get that DX removed. Any NOS diagnosis is telling you the professional(s) doesn't know where medically the child is or even if it's an autism disorder. The last thing any parent needs to deal with is a NOS. |
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no, often a child gets a label of pdd-nos due to missing only one criteria, such as meeting criteria for Asperger's Syndrome. However, if the child didn't speak until age 4, then they are never allowed an Asperger Syndrome dx. Therefore, PDD-NOS.
And yes, a school DOES have to provide a medical diagnosis if their own state requires that for special education services. not all states do require that. Once a child is diagnosed, regardless, you're right that Special Ed doesn't automatically kick in. However, when a school system says it's not giving services due to no academic problems, please find an advocacy organization. Every state has at least one that is free of charge. "Educational performance" absoultely includes behavioral and social areas. Where in the Federal Law does it say "to be served for autism a child must be making failing GRADES?" |
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Since: Jan 07
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I don't know of any state that requires a medical diagnosis for special ed services. An academic diagnosis is very different and that's all any school needs to provide special ed.
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Is this autism.com form e-2 for real. I just looked at it, and they say you can fill out this form and mail it in and they will computer score it, and if you are honest with the questions, they will mail you a diagnosis. I have my doubts, any one with experience?
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Since: Jan 07
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Experience or not, any doctor that will diagnosose without seeing the patient makes you wonder just how real those autism rates are, and really makes you question their biomedical approach and medical practice in general.
You need to bring your child to an actual doctor. Interestingly, the Form E-2 'created' by Dr. Bernard Rimland is a history taking form and there's many like it. Alot of the questions pertain to sensory disorder which is not the same as autism, either. If you do the online Assessment scale which I offered in post 2, you'd get the results right away but online web say says directly "this is a Assessment used as a tool" it is not a diagnosis. |
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“I am just me!” Since: Feb 08
Brenton Now ISP: Oceana, WV |
Friend- I did the assessment that you posted it is right on. Wonderful tool to use. My daughter scored a 148. When my son was diagnosed it took 2 days so not to over exert him. Everyone that was close to him, parents, grandparents, teachers or daycare workers were given questionnaires to fill out. To help them get a perspective from everyone's point of view. I suppose because others may see what I may not have or the other way around. But it was extensive. They spent many hours with him, doing many tests. I nor my husband was allowed in there it was just my son and the specialist doing the testing. Then we had to go back for the results which was weeks later. I guess once they were looked at and tallied. So I do believe that The question Matt asked about this site could not be official.
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Since: Jan 07
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Take Pride~ I don't remember what my son's score was way back, but it matched his diagnosis. I found that link after he was diagnosed and had wished I seen it prior. Also when he was diagnosed, they too sent the CARS to special ed and the day care and I too needed to fill one out. Those are needed because not always does the child display everything during that medical evaluation. Since the best place in our state for a diagnosis was so far away, we did the evaluation all in one full day. Our diagnosis ended up being 8 pages long.
Autism is dianosed by a DSM IV 'observation' and interaction with the child to come to the determination. A parents observation although most times correct, the parents often is emotionally attached of course :) I will say at the time although I knew it was something, my sons reactions to me was different since I lived with him :) what he did out side the home was very different. http://www.autism-pdd.net/dsm4.html |
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“I am just me!” Since: Feb 08
Brenton Now ISP: Itmann, WV |
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Early intervention people are not qualified to say whether or not a child has autism. An evaluation should be performed by a doctoral level person with specialized training, preferably a clinical/developmental psychologist.
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