Smokers uniting to fight taxes, bans - Hawaii Editorials

It's was interesting to find dozens of smokeasys just in the Los Angeles Area of California on just one blog. There are undoubtedly many more.

And this is a State that threatens fines of up thousands of dollars for a bar violating the ban. It's been over 11 years since California passed its' ban and smokeasys are still alive and well.

If these bans are "so popular", how come smokeasys exist by the thousands all over Western Europe and North America? How come so few people report "violations"? How come health departments have to PAY people to hunt for and report violations?

People,

Forget about Hawaii; spend your vacation money in the Bahamas. As smoking in paradise goes - Nassau and throughout the Bahamas - it's not only beautiful, but it's like stepping back in time to the 1980's. People simply use common sense and are polite. You can smoke just about anywhere. You would simply use your own disgression as to when you shouldn't light up - if most anyone were to really mind or care anyway. No finaticism. No neuroticism. None of the current insufferable stance of Hawaii.
If Hawaii wants to go broke and starve in some government mandated smoke free part of the tropics, fine - there will still be enough scattered anti-smoker tourists going over there to keep them gasping.

Let the far more reasonable Bahamas flourish and live in a happiness and prosperity that Hawaii used to have, in reward for their good, sensible attitude ~

Have a beautiful vacation :)

Patriot 96789 wrote:

There is a TEA Party on the 4th of July
@ the State Capitol noon-3PM
It is non-partisan all are welcome!

I should have checked this blog!!!...really wanted to attend.
Heard rumors of something planned back in April.
Suppose I did not sign up on the right contact list.

BTW, I'm hoping my above post is a helpful tip to both non-smokers and smokers alike; as it continues to become more recognizable through these chat threads, the noticeable difference between a non-smoker, and an anti-smoker.

Again, have a beautiful vacation!

sir youou wrote:

<quoted text>
Then be gone...and don't bother us...remember where and when to smoke.

You just don't get the message do you? Your still sweating the small stuff here.

Of course I smoke cigars or pipes around my smoking buddies...I like to enjoy myself...not be subjected to endless complaining, moaning and groaning...from the likes of you.

People like you just need to get out of other peoples business and their lives. Just like the Federal Government needs to get out of our lives.

Do not need nosey neighbors or big brother peering over my shoulder telling me to wear a seat belt in my car, not to smoke, etc in order to "protect" me.

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness!!!

Patriot 96789 wrote:

There is a TEA Party on the 4th of July
@ the State Capitol noon-3PM
It is non-partisan all are welcome!

So how (couch, hack, cough) did the tea-party go?

American Patriot wrote:

<quoted text>I should have checked this blog!!!...really wanted to attend.
Heard rumors of something planned back in April.
Suppose I did not sign up on the right contact list.

http://teapartyday.com/

localdude808 wrote:

It's was interesting to find dozens of smokeasys just in the Los Angeles Area of California on just one blog. There are undoubtedly many more.
And this is a State that threatens fines of up thousands of dollars for a bar violating the ban. It's been over 11 years since California passed its' ban and smokeasys are still alive and well.
If these bans are "so popular", how come smokeasys exist by the thousands all over Western Europe and North America? How come so few people report "violations"? How come health departments have to PAY people to hunt for and report violations?

America, the land of the free BECAUSE of the brave.

generalsn1234567 wrote:

<quoted text> America, the land of the free BECAUSE of the brave.

Yes.

Personal responsibility made America great. Not government mandated fascism.

Smokers are an ex-STINK group.

azmac wrote:

<quoted text>
http://teapartyday.com/

Or here.
http://www.resistnet.com/

Free_America wrote:

<quoted text>Or here.
http://www.resistnet.com/

Or this
http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/

Many ways to support your country.

Westside Wind wrote:

Smokers are an ex-STINK group.

You, Sir, or Mam, apparently, have the IQ of an artichoke.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Don't Tread On Me

American Patriot wrote:

Don't Tread On Me

how about taxing alcohol at the same rate as cigarettes?
the use of alcohol results in; immediate deaths, countless injuries,(some lasting a lifetime,) property damage, court costs, chirosis of the liver, kidney damage, more taxes to cover cost of DUI check points and extra police to patrol during holiday travel, higher insurance rates,(both for car and medical,) child abuse, domestic abuse, etc.etc.etc. not to mention everyone's saftey each time we drive our cars on streets and highways.......you never know who you will run into, or better yet, who will run into you.
when you stand next to a smoker, chances are a ton of steel won't crash into you.

has anyone ever tried to calculate the cost from all of the above?

hmmm?

better to single out the smoker and their bad habit than confronting a multi billion dollar industy.