Not My Kid: Polled Parents Turn on Swine Flu Vaccine

sofa_king_cool wrote:

<quoted text>I've contributed nothing?
How about your crazy conspiracy theories? That is contributing nothing.
How about this.
There is a difference between ethyl mercury (found in SOME vaccines) and methyl mercury. Ethyl mercury does not accumulate in the body and is metabolized. Methyl mercury (found in many types of seafood) accumulates, is not metabolized and is far more dangerous.
Secondly, you skipped that many of the childhood vaccines do not contain mercury. MMR, polio, yellow fever, and BCG vaccines (to combat tuberculosis) do NOT have thiomersal the preservative that contains the ethyl mercury.
http://www.who.int/vaccine_safety/topics/thio ...

Elemental mercury , from mercury vapor, is the most toxic form

Amanda wrote:

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He should not have taken tylenol or any symptom suppressor . Fever stimulates the production of WBC and helps fight immunity .
If you take meds to decrease pain cough and other symptoms , you are far more likely to contract a secondary infection , pneumonis , staph etc.Death results from the secondary infections , but billions are made on tylenol theraflu etc.

I agree. Medical science has known for years what caused all those deaths during the 1918 flu pandemic. It was pneumonia, not the flu virus. The virus merely sets up an ideal environment in the lungs for bacteria there normally to flourish. In 1918, without antibiotics to fight those lung infections, people died by the millions from bacterial pneumonia, a secondary infection, not the flu virus.

http://www.cdc.gov/eid/content/14/8/1193.htm

This current flu acts in the same way. Those who don't get secondary infections recover as well as they would from any flu of any strain.

This hype for vaccines and tamiflu is a money-making ad campaign for Big Pharma. What the medical community and pharma companies should be doing is stocking up on antibiotics, not vaccine that is untested and potentially harmful for life.

Why is it important to determine the major pathophysiologic pathways that led to deaths during the 1918–19 influenza pandemic? After all, the effective prevention and treatment of influenza infections during a future pandemic would prevent all secondary effects, including opportunistic bacterial pneumonias. Yet concerns exist that an effective strain-specific vaccine and effective antiviral drugs may not be produced and distributed to all at-risk populations in time to mitigate the effects of the next pandemic. In the absence of an effective influenza vaccine and antiviral drugs, circumstances during a modern influenza pandemic could resemble those in 1918–19, with the notable exception of the availability of bacterial vaccines and antibacterial drugs. The exclusive focus on the prevention and treatment of a novel strain of influenza virus is risky because it unnecessarily limits options and opportunities for other potentially effective prevention and treatment methods, especially in medically underserved populations in less-developed countries.

We suggest that preparations for the next influenza pandemic should focus on more than preventing and treating influenza virus infections. A modified influenza pandemic plan might include the following components: 1) Before a pandemic, expand indications for and decrease barriers to receipt of vaccination against S. pneumoniae (36–38,40). 2) During a pandemic, in communities not yet affected, universally vaccinate with a safe and effective strain-specific influenza vaccine, if available. 3) During local epidemics, treat all serious clinical cases with an antibacterial agent that is effective against S. pneumoniae, S. pyogenes, H. influenzae, and S. aureus (including methicillin-resistant S. aureus); isolate patients with clinical cases from other patients and as many others as possible (35,37–39). 4) Conduct pandemic-related surveillance that tracks the incidence, nature (e.g., species, affected sites, antimicrobial drug sensitivities), and outcomes of bacterial infections that complicate influenza cases.

Given highly variable colonization and drug-sensitivity patterns across populations and locations, stockpiles of antibacterial drugs should be tailored to their intended uses. Plans for providing medical care should include evidence-based triage and treatment algorithms and home-care treatment guidelines (including prepackaged antiviral and antibacterial drugs) to minimize hospitalizations and maximize home care. Perhaps most important, pandemic-related research activities (including laboratory animal studies, statistical models, and clinical trials) should elucidate the determinants and effects of bacterial pneumonias that occur secondary to influenza.

Ultimately, research activities should determine the most effective uses of antibacterial drugs and bacterial vaccines (e.g., indications, agents, doses, and timing for prophylaxis and treatment) in preparation for and during pandemic influenza, particularly for medically underserved and other high-risk populations.

http://www.cdc.gov/eid/content/14/8/1193.htm

Amanda wrote:

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Children get far more vaccinations today than in the sixties.

Actually, Autism was around, the difference is, they diagnose it now, maybe overdiagnose it. Some kids are just different. That doesn't make them autistic.

Amanda wrote:

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Anyone who brlieves that pharmaceutical companies are any different from other corporations and that they care about anything other than promoting useless harmful products is a moron.Doctors take only one class in pharmacology and it is taught by a PhD who only works with animals . Docs get their info from pharmaceutical reps . Even if they get info from JAMA etc , the medical journals are full of oharma ads , and the articles are ghostwritten by well paid docs who had nothing to do with the drug trial they are writing about and drug companies not the FDA, do all the testing on new drugs ,

Vaccinations aren't the big money makers that treatment drugs are. First, the government negotiates the price of vaccines since the government purchases the bulk of the vaccines. It's why years ago there was a shortage, most companies didn't want to get involved in something that has such a small profit margin compared to most OTC drugs.

Amanda wrote:

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Who do you believe , the pharmaceutical industry that makes trillions selling their poisons?

No I believe scientific, peer reviewed studies that show there is no Autism link to vaccines.

What you are talking about is a mass conspiracy where everyone would have to be in it and stay in on it. But that is not the case.

Amanda wrote:

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vacccines are made from organic matter and often contain viruses some of ehich cause cancer and other illnesses.

What study is that from?

sofa_king_cool wrote:

<quoted text>Actually, Autism was around, the difference is, they diagnose it now, maybe overdiagnose it. Some kids are just different. That doesn't make them autistic.

Chemical neutering of little boys, is also contributory to maladies which later become addressed by issueing anti depressants.

http://ritalinsideeffects.net/

Rialan and the side effects.
Boys are different from little girls. They are 'limb' oriented. They need to have limb movement allowances.

oui!

Ritalin even

Pete-o wrote:

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No I believe scientific, peer reviewed studies that show there is no Autism link to vaccines.
What you are talking about is a mass conspiracy where everyone would have to be in it and stay in on it. But that is not the case.

Do you believe vaccine ingredients contain;

Vaccines contain ingredients such as MSG, antifreeze, phenol (used as a disinfectant), formaldehyde (cancer causing and used to embalm), aluminum (associated with alzheimer’s disease and seizures), glycerin (toxic to the kidney, liver, can cause lung damage, gastrointestinal damage and death), lead, cadmium, sulfates, yeast proteins, antibiotics, acetone (used in nail polish remover), neomycin and streptomycin. And the ingredient making the press is thimerosol (more toxic than mercury, a preservative still used in many vaccines, not easily eliminated, can cause severe neurological damage as well as other life threatening autoimmune disease). These vaccines are grown and strained through animal or human tissue, like monkey and dog kidney tissue, chick embryo, calf serum, human diploid cells (the dissected organs of aborted fetuses), pig blood, horse blood and rabbit brain.

Well they do! Want to shoot that into the arm of your child?

Peer review. From what peer is that measure met? Material sciences which are not cognizant of spiritual realities?

Independent patriot wrote:

Why is it important to determine the major pathophysiologic pathways that led to deaths during the 1918–19 influenza pandemic?. A modified influenza pandemic plan might include the following components: 1) Before a pandemic, expand indications for and decrease barriers to receipt of vaccination against S. pneumoniae (36–38,40). 2) During a pandemic, in communities not yet affected, universally vaccinate with a safe and effective strain-specific influenza vaccine, if available. 3) During local epidemics, treat all serious clinical cases with an antibacterial agent that is effective against S. pneumoniae, S. pyogenes, H. influenzae, and S. aureus (including methicillin-resistant S. aureus); isolate patients with clinical cases from other patients and as many others as possible (35,37–39). 4) Conduct pandemic-related surveillance that tracks the incidence, nature (e.g., species, affected sites, antimicrobial drug sensitivities), and outcomes of bacterial infections that complicate influenza cases.
Given highly variable colonization and drug-sensitivity patterns across populations and locations, stockpiles of antibacterial drugs should be tailored to their intended uses. Plans for providing medical care should include evidence-based triage and treatment algorithms and home-care treatment guidelines (including prepackaged antiviral and antibacterial drugs) to minimize hospitalizations and maximize home care. Perhaps most important, pandemic-related research activities (including laboratory animal studies, statistical models, and clinical trials) should elucidate the determinants and effects of bacterial pneumonias that occur secondary to influenza.

http://www.cdc.gov/eid/content/14/8/1193.htm

At the time of this 'ahem' pandemic, the Mantra call was to TAKE ALOT ASPRIN! Asprin was new onto the stage of pharmecopia, and seemed to be the miracle pill for maladies. This use in mass only incresed the degree of severity of the flu for it depleted the Vitiman C in body, and most effectually compounded the bronchial systems ability to cope!
The lungs, which need mega Vitiman sustainment, filled with fluids due to thier being first in thie recomendation to succumb to the very depletion they in fact needed support in. Vitamin C.

Thusly, the death rate from the pandemic skyrocketed.

This however is only one causational reason.
It was a wicked flu, which set upon the land.
I only mean to reason that the degree of serverity in the death rate was from the Mantra recommendation of the use of Asprin.

Asprin in mega dose eats C!

wolverine wrote:

What Would We Do With-out People Telling Us Whats Good For Us ! LOL...You Silly Little Liberals...I Have Never...Repeat Never Been Inoculated Or Had A Vaccine...It Was Against My Parents Beliefs...Im 50 And Very Healthy....You Dont Need A Flu Shot...Polio Maybe...You Need To Get The Flu To Build Your Immune System....Your Just Padding The Wallets Of The Phama Companies And Their Politition Investors ! WTF UP !

Polio is a virus, just like H1N1....so what is your reasoning behind getting a polio shot when you are so against H1N1? Both have turned out to be fatal.
Majority of people don't have immunity to H1N1...that is why they are recomending the shot. Otherwise, you can come across it and not have any immunity to fight it after your first encounter. You will get sick the first time you come in contact with it. If you don't want it, that's cool...just don't make the rest of us who did get it feel like idiots or "silly little liberals". I think you're the silly one and it shows in your lack of knowledge on the subject.:)

steph wrote:

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Polio is a virus, just like H1N1....so what is your reasoning behind getting a polio shot when you are so against H1N1? Both have turned out to be fatal.
Majority of people don't have immunity to H1N1...that is why they are recomending the shot. Otherwise, you can come across it and not have any immunity to fight it after your first encounter. You will get sick the first time you come in contact with it. If you don't want it, that's cool...just don't make the rest of us who did get it feel like idiots or "silly little liberals". I think you're the silly one and it shows in your lack of knowledge on the subject.:)

majority.lol. comon now.

Our immune system has been so comprised since this silly sciences introduction onto the world stage in 1947, just about the time they made a parallel goverment in a secret room in the CIA Building in Langley, wherein the WHO declared that their sole mission was to innoculate the entire WORLD! One has no idea what the most pristine vibrant God given from our mothers milk immune system is today.

From the Nuclear Power plant releases of some 500 noble ( how ironie) gases every nite while we sleep, which is A Okay , eh? To the Babylonian Apocolyptic Sciences in Agriculture. To the Polio vaccine in itself! Manufactured using the notorious African Green Monkey' kidney cell as a substrat in order to grow the serum in a dish.......YIKES!

It has long been known that Primates harbor viruses dangerous to Humans...not to worry , eh? AIDS

See WHO innoculations aerysol.........in the MOUTH from 1957 to 1960 in Africa.
source material London Times 1988 Who

steph wrote:

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Polio is a virus, just like H1N1....so what is your reasoning behind getting a polio shot when you are so against H1N1? Both have turned out to be fatal.
Majority of people don't have immunity to H1N1...that is why they are recomending the shot. Otherwise, you can come across it and not have any immunity to fight it after your first encounter. You will get sick the first time you come in contact with it. If you don't want it, that's cool...just don't make the rest of us who did get it feel like idiots or "silly little liberals". I think you're the silly one and it shows in your lack of knowledge on the subject.:)

There hasnt been a significant Polio outbreak in the western hemisphere for over 50 yrs. SO people can benefit from the 'herd' effect. That is , unless they, those who know this decide or have decided to SKERRY ya, and have one or two incidents.

Children can benefit from this HERD effect by parents NOT allowing the MMRP shots or any shots until the child is 3 yrs old, for religious reasons.
Polio only then
Frig the MMRP shot..

just frig it

just frig it

And the shot they give a one day old Baby?

Heineous..

they cannot develop any antibodies at that age.

EVIL

Childhood inflamatory diseases such as mumps, rubella should NOT be circumvented by innoculations.

THey are what was knows as a "Catharsis'. A Healing crisis. Overcome, easily today, the child comes out the other end renewed with a stronger immune system. If left unchallenged, the immune system atrophies. Much as a muscle never used.

This is not to say that we should Wish upon the child an illness. Rather that we should see it as a test and wholesomely accompany the child through the Catharsis!

Boy I hope I wake up tomorrow. It will be 2 full weeks since I got my swine flu shot. I'm so nervous.

sofa_king_cool wrote:

Boy I hope I wake up tomorrow. It will be 2 full weeks since I got my swine flu shot. I'm so nervous.

thus far in Delaware the swine flu has abated to 1/3 the PRE interdictions lol

pfft.

you bought it. own it.