Elkton Chiropractor helps rehab Vertigo / Dizziness without drugs

As a nurse, in my opinion this "free press release" is full of medical nonsense! Who paid for this "press release" and why is it being put on here as though it is fact?
Please, patients, go to a reputable M.D. and do not believe this chiropractic nonsense that amounts to practicing actual medicine without a real medical license!

OK "do not believe it" but sure sounds like a wisdom post.

Should everyone run to the MD/DO to get a drug instead?

Also being a nurse you esp in the DE/MD area you must know that Chiropractors are considered Primary Care Physicians by State laws?

Please explain to us why in your opinion only a MD is reputable?

I know a few that I would not let treat anyone in my family.

"do not believ it", you are absolutely correct.

Chiropractors do not have the training to examine, diagnose or treat vertigo or any other visceral disorder.

As a nursing student, you saw far more patients with visceral disorders than any chiropractic student ever did.

While chiropractors are sometimes called "primary care physicians" (chiropractors are not legally allowed to be called "physicians" at all in NY), it is only because they can see patients directly off the street.

A chiropractor's clinical training is incredibly lacking and pathetic. Most chiropractors graduate after seeing only 20 or so "patients" with uncomplicated and limited back and neck conditions. Hardly sufficient to become an expert in visceral disorders.

You'll hear the protests from chiropractors and others after this post.

I've been to many chiropractic schools and their student clinics. I am the expert when it comes to chiropractic.

Most "lay" people have no idea about all the bizarre treatment and techniques that these chiropractors use. Did you know that there are more than 200+ different chiropractic techniques and treatments, yet no criteria or "standard of care" as to when to use which technique for a particular condition?

Did you know that there are chiropractors who will treat each and every one of their patients by tweaking ONLY the top vertebrae? Other chiropractors will click your spine with a dental clicker for every patient that walks into their offices.

As a nurse, you are probably familiar with "best practices" guidelines. Chiropractors have no "best practices" guidelines for any condition that presents to their offices.

You are correct. If anyone has a vertigo problem, they need to have it examined and serious diseases ruled out by a board certified medical physician.

You critics are funny :) You criticize, but dont really know what you are talking about. This is an area where I have had some experience (indirectly I guess).

My mother had vertigo daily for 3 weeks before she went to see her MD. Her MD just looked in her ears, said it probably wasnt serious, and prescribed her a medication (no idea what it was any more). The meds eliminated the vertigo for 2 weeks, but made her really drowzy. When she stopped taking the meds the vertigo came back within a day. Her MD then referred her to an audiologist. The audiologist did a bunch of tests on her ears, said it was probably vestibular and sent her to a physiotherapist. The physiotherapist I took my mother to just got a stunned look when we got there and told him we were refered by an audiologist.

I convinced my Mom to see my chiropractic physician and he diagnosed her, but for the life of me I cant remember what the diagnosis was... help me out DCs. First he had her shake her head around a bit, then got her to swivel on a chair while he held her head still, then he did a wierd test where he layed her on her back and extended her head (or something like that). Then every second day for a week he did a similar thing to her as the last test, but also rolled her on her side and turned her head around (we joked about it for a long time)... damn if I cant remember what all this was called, but she hasnt had the problem in 4 years after the 3 treatments.

Anyways, my point is that (besides an eye, ear, throat specialist, which we didnt have in our home town) Medical physicians are not well trained for vertigo, and their only tool is medication, which was only effective for this condition while actually taking the meds. Our small town DC new right away with 3 tests.

What about this wisdom?

FROM: Man Ther 2000 (Aug); 5 (3): 151–157

Heikkila H, Johansson M, Wenngren BI

Department of Otorhinolaryngology, Northern Sweden University Hospital, Umea, Sweden. hannu.heikkila@psychiat.umu.se

In a single-subject experiment undertaken on 14 consecutive patients, the effects of acupuncture, cervical manipulation, no therapy, and NSAID-percutan application on kinesthetic sensibility, dizziness/vertigo and pain were studied in patients with dizziness/vertigo of suspected cervical origin. The ability to perceive position of the head with respect to the trunk was studied. The effects of different forms of therapy-and none-on dizziness and neck pain were compared, using a 100 mm visual analogue scale (VAS). Active head relocation by subjects with dizziness was significantly less precise than in the control group. Manipulation was the only treatment to diminish the duration of dizziness/vertigo complaints during the past 7 days and increased the cervical range of motion. Both acupuncture and manipulation reduced dizziness/vertigo on the VAS scale and had positive effects on active head repositioning. Ketoprofen percutan application and acupuncture both alleviated pain. The results of this study would suggest that spinal manipulation may impact most efficiently on the complex process of proprioception and dizziness of cervical origin. Copyright 2000 Harcourt Publishers Ltd.

Bystander-

Your description leads me to believe the DC diagnosed: BENIGN PAROXYSMAL POSITIONAL VERTIGO.

The treament you describe is most likely the Epley and Semont Maneuvers.

For a good explanation of the condition and treatment see:

http://www.dizziness-and-balance.com/disorder...

I am so glad you got her to the DC for the correct diagnosis and treament. Pretty routine stuff for a chiropractor.

Ok,so I called my sister-in-law (Medical resident) to make sure I was correct with my previous statements... turns out I wasnt 100%:) Her experience is this, Medical physicians do get some training to deal with vertigo, and medication is no-longer considered to be the best option even by MDs. The condition that my Mom had was likely BPPV (precipitated solids in her vestibular canals), and there are many medical professionals who are using the treatment that our home town DC used. The fact that my Moms MD prescribed medication right away was likely due to schooling >20 years ago, and not because MDs dont know how to handle vertigo. Also, she was surprised that the physiotherapist didnt have a better idea of what to do, and this was not likely an indication of all physiotherapists knowledge, just the one.

Further, I called my Mother and she informed me that the vertigo returned last year (hence the treatment did not last for 4 years). When the vertigo returned she went back to the DC and he taught her how to do the head movements to deal with it herself whenever the vertigo returns. The DC advised her that it would likely always be a recurring problem. If it becomes to frequent of interferes with her life to much then he advised her to go back to an MD and see bout other options such as surgery.

Sorry for having my facts a little mixed-up in my previous post.

Thanks Tom... I looked into it more and got some facts straight.
I was certainly impressed that the DC was the first to have a proper diagnosis and effective therapy, it seems that this is now becoming accepted/known by many medical professionals.

More medical bashing.

Don't you guys ever tire from it?

I'll ask again, what technique has been found to be most effective at curing vertigo, whwere is the vertigo subluxation.

What study has been done to support the "best practices" model which chiropractors can follow to treat a patient with vertigo?

Stop the BSing all you chiropractic supporters.

But lets see your answers anyway. And try to be as honest as possible.

Maybe you should read the posts Wisdom...so you dont look so foolish.
There was no medical bashing here

"More medical bashing." Did you realy just say that? all you do is bash chiropractic, but have a problem with the facts about allopathic care. Once again we see just how stupid you are.

Wizz-dumpy posts:
>>What study has been done to support the "best practices" model which chiropractors can follow to treat a patient with vertigo?"But lets see your answers anyway. And try to be as honest as possible."<<

Try asking an honest/intelligent question wizzy-boy.

As I thought. Can't even be honest.

So; here's the honest answer for ya.

There are NO best practices models or research for chiropractic. No one has ever shown that subluxations cause vertigo or any other illness for that matter.

Case closed.

Now, empty those chiropractic diapers.

Wisdom,
its funny how you skip the issue and return to simple chiro bashing.
No one has claimed there is a subluxation involved with the BPPV we are discussing here. The DC that treated my mother used the Epley maneuver (thanks for the informative link Tom). You might have to read some of the posts above, and perhaps educate yourself a little beyond diaper knowledge to make these kind of differentiations.

Keep posting Wisdom... you make chiropractic seem more logical every time you post your nonsense claims!
If the criticisms Wisdom brings to the table are the best that the anti-chiropractic extremists have to offer, chiropractic medicine is doing just fine :)

Hey dope, the fundamental/underlying principle of chiropractic is that "subluxations" cause disease. What part of that do you not understand?

You do not get to define chiropractic. The other quacks here do not get to define chiropractic.

If you think chiropractic is logical after all the fraud I've exposed, that's your right. It a free country.

You are also free to believe that every chiropractic technique, all 200+ of them, work for every illness known to man.

There are no best practices guidelines in chiropractic for treating any particular condition. You have already seen that some chiroquackers here tweak only the top vertebrae for every condition they walk in with.

What part of that do you have trouble with? Any?

You apparently miss the bigger points of my posts. I never said anything about how you mother was treated. Your little anecdotal stories do not interest me.

You failed, as every other quacker here has failed to answer ven the most basic question. Where are the subluxations that cause specific diseases.

Oh, excuse me, one chiropractor did say where all the subluxations exist for EVERY disease. The upper cervical quackers say it is always atlas.

I guess that stuipidity doesn't bother you either. Like I said, it's a free country. Free to be stupid.

Now empty your chiropractic diaper.

Anyway, the article above states, "As a chiropractic neurologist, Dr. Charles’ approach is non-invasive and holistic. It incorporates assessment and treatment of all of the systems involved with balance and movement. He utilizes specific spinal and extremity adjustments."

Again, I ask, where is the vertigo subluxation.

Should be easy to answer for the chiropractic experts. I'll give you quacks another chance at an honest answer.

C3? C7? Coccyx? Occipital?

Hmmm?

Now empty those chiropractic diapers.

wisdom my son, please close your mouth, knee down and look up and ask forgiveness. you sound very bad every time I read your comments. I do not know how to name you beside animals, cat, dog ect. please respond my son.

Wisdom wrote:

Again, I ask, where is the vertigo subluxation.
Should be easy to answer for the chiropractic experts. I'll give you quacks another chance at an honest answer.
C3? C7? Coccyx? Occipital?
Hmmm?
Now empty those chiropractic diapers.

Hmmm? Since vertigo can be caused by misfiring of the proprioceptors (nerves telling the position by stretch and pressure) throughout the cervical region, the answer is Yes.

Oh you try and simplify the body wisdom just out of your shear ignorance.

Well siad wisdum, you are very correct about wisdom, but you cannot blame him, he is like Forrest Gump who got caught up with the wrong crowd and is too dumb to understand it.

His days are over on these posts as everyone has caught on to him. He belongs to the chirotalkers cult with nutz like Idiot Phoney Freeley and Presto the magic freak.

Also he has a subluxation that needs to be removed

BDC, a fully licensed quack chiropractor admitted; "Hmmm? Since vertigo can be caused by misfiring of the proprioceptors (nerves telling the position by stretch and pressure) throughout the cervical region, the answer is Yes."

And some think I make this stuff up.

Any of you idiots catch that this quack has just admitted, without any evidence what so ever, that the subluxation for vertigo can exist any where in the spine?

Yeah, not an inner ear problem or anything so "stupid" like that, the vertigo subluxation can be anywhere in the spine.

Hence, all chiropractic techniques are good for any illness.

All chiropractic techniques work for all conditions. That IS chiropractic's number 1 rule. I've said it a million times. And you quacks have tried to deny it.

Thank you. My work here is done for now.

Now empty your chiropractic diapers.

I'll return when you quacks make more ignorant statements.

Until then, feel free to match my metaphor.