Smoking harms moms and their unborn children

TMiller wrote:

AZ_smoker, I will agree Bush has been lax, the laws were in place before him, and these businesses were doing the polution long before him. Truthfully, prople blame the president for things, but the president cannot get these things done withoue senate and congressional support, so I guess all of us need to "take out the trash" in DC, dont ya think?
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Yes the laws were in place before him, however HE changed them to lower the dumping/emissions standards allowing them to do more damage and not have to pay for the cleanup.

Yes we do indeed need to throw out the trash in DC and I plan on doing just THAT.

He didnt lower anything, on his own. But sounds like you and I agree, clean up DC, remodel it with all new faces.

Lynda wrote:

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Yes the laws were in place before him, however HE changed them to lower the dumping/emissions standards allowing them to do more damage and not have to pay for the cleanup.
Yes we do indeed need to throw out the trash in DC and I plan on doing just THAT.

TMiller wrote:

He didnt lower anything, on his own. But sounds like you and I agree, clean up DC, remodel it with all new faces.
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Maybe not, but he is the one who signed the approval for those things, therefore.....the buck stops with him. Yes I hate that man, and I've never hated anyone to this extent before in my life.....come to think of it, I've never really hated anyone, strongly disliked, but never hated.

All the incumbents need to be given their walking papers, they should just start packing their personal belongings now, because more and more voters are starting to see how useless they are.

Those of you who smoke while you are pregnant need help. I smoked for 7 years and I quit cold turkey before my husband and I even TRIED to get pregnant. I made sure I was as healthy as possible before carrying a baby. Your babies have no say in what you are doing to your bodies, and you may end up having healthy babies, but why risk it? If you are not strong enough to quit smoking, you shouldn't have kids!

meee wrote:

Those of you who smoke while you are pregnant need help. I smoked for 7 years and I quit cold turkey before my husband and I even TRIED to get pregnant. I made sure I was as healthy as possible before carrying a baby. Your babies have no say in what you are doing to your bodies, and you may end up having healthy babies, but why risk it? If you are not strong enough to quit smoking, you shouldn't have kids!

And you can do everything right and have an unhealthy baby..........using THAT logic, why bother having them at all? Right?

And if your afraid of every little thing you shouldn't have kids either.

Your judgements work both ways.

I think that babies have so much to face coming into this world and growing up, who needs to make them less than healthy by smoking. All of their body parts are developing in that womb, it needs to be as healthy as possible for the baby. Smoking and hurting the babies developing lungs and other organs are not giving your baby a fair chance in this hard enough life. True many of you might have come from smoking mothers, but how would you feel if your baby developed some childhood illness that could have been due to your smoking? You never know what could happen, why risk it? The baby deserves a fair chance to be healthy, afterall they did not ask to come into this world.

I have four beautiful children and I quit smoking with my two oldest but did not stop smoking with my two youngest (and just for your info) my children range from 15 to 3 years in age. I think it's great that you are atleast trying to cut down while you are pregnant. The thing I believe that matters the most is that even if you don't fully quit by the time your baby is born and you continue to smoke after is PLEASE don't smoke around the baby at all after it's born!!! If you choose to smoke fine but remove yourself from the child and go outside to smoke. That causes more harm to their little lungs after they are born than while you are pregnant. That has been proven. Like I said I smoke myself but I do respect non smokers also. I myself don't smoke in my house or around my children and don't let anyone else smoke around them either.

AZ_smoker wrote:

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And you can do everything right and have an unhealthy baby..........using THAT logic, why bother having them at all? Right?
And if your afraid of every little thing you shouldn't have kids either.
Your judgements work both ways.

Im totally with you 100%.

Betty wrote:

I think that babies have so much to face coming into this world and growing up, who needs to make them less than healthy by smoking. All of their body parts are developing in that womb, it needs to be as healthy as possible for the baby. Smoking and hurting the babies developing lungs and other organs are not giving your baby a fair chance in this hard enough life. True many of you might have come from smoking mothers, but how would you feel if your baby developed some childhood illness that could have been due to your smoking? You never know what could happen, why risk it? The baby deserves a fair chance to be healthy, afterall they did not ask to come into this world.

If every time you heard or read a press release (news report) and actually looked up the real studie the report/press release was based on (such as the SG's press release) you would find that nowhere in those studies are there any facts to support the report you just heard. The most that these studies have come up with is "a slight increase in risk". Not even a significant risk factor.

Some of us were born to smoking mothers (I wasn't though my father did smoke), and then some us (myself included) smoked while pregnant and still had perfectly healthy children who never went on to develop any illness. So I have to ask myself what is going on today that so many children have so many problems when smoking rates had declined by almost 50% 20 years ago from the 50s and 60s and exposure to SHS has been limited more and more over the past 20 years. Doesn't that strike you as just a bit odd?

chris wrote:

The thing I believe that matters the most is that even if you don't fully quit by the time your baby is born and you continue to smoke after is PLEASE don't smoke around the baby at all after it's born!!! If you choose to smoke fine but remove yourself from the child and go outside to smoke. That causes more harm to their little lungs after they are born than while you are pregnant. That has been proven.

And yet even my son, with two smoking parents who smoked INSIDE was NOT harmed at all by our smoking, and the smoking of many of our friends back then. Nor was I with my fathers smoking in the house. I'm sorry, while it may not be the wisest thing to do, it is hardly as deadly as you portray unless the child ALREADY has respiratory problems.....THEN you have a very valid point indeed.

AZ_smoker wrote:

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And you can do everything right and have an unhealthy baby..........using THAT logic, why bother having them at all? Right?
And if your afraid of every little thing you shouldn't have kids either.
Your judgements work both ways.

Keep rationalizing everything -- you are ignorant to think smoking while pregnant and smoking around childen.

Stay in denial.

If society can dictate what a pregnant woman can and cannot do, then she no longer has a right to her own body. You can have your opinions one way or the other, but those opinions do not matter unless you are willing to say that a persons body belongs to the state.

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Keep rationalizing everything -- you are ignorant to think smoking while pregnant and smoking around childen.
Stay in denial.

Not denial, actual experience in case you didn't comprehend that part.

Smoking rates have declined by almost 50%; exposure to SHS has dramatically decreased over the last 20 years..........so explain to me why so many children have asthma? Surely you are not suggesting that the hour a week they might be exposed to SHS in a restaurant is the cause? THINK. Baby boomers born to smoking parents in a time when exposure was everywhere and pretty constant, did NOT have the rate of asthma that kids today (with little to no exposure) have. EXPLAIN THAT.

I'm not the one in denial here. You all refuse to look at all the other contributing factors which are actually more harmful and UNavoidable than smoking, because those things make your life easier. Cigarettes are just the scapegoat du jour.

I don't claim that smoking and SHS is absolutely harmless, but I refuse to buy into the deadliness and harmfulness of it that you do, based on my own life's experiences (and I'm 53 by the way). There isn't a study done that shows any significant harm to normally healthy people (who are the majority I might add). Not even California's own study or the world health organization's or the EPA's. Do the research, stop being blindly led; those studies do NOT back up the press releases and "news" reports.

In order to not smoke around kids, you must love them more than smoking, however, smokers do not care about anyone other than themselves. Even dogs and cats are being put to sleep because of people smoking around them.

Bob wrote:

In order to not smoke around kids, you must love them more than smoking, however, smokers do not care about anyone other than themselves. Even dogs and cats are being put to sleep because of people smoking around them.

It's no wonder your parents named you Bob,(it's not hard to spell). They must have "known" you weren't the brightest bulb in the lamp. LOL

taterbug wrote:

if you are a smoking mother to be ,you are one selfish person.. your ignorance about smoking effects,short and long term,will not do your child any good when he or she suffers for your stupidity.how dumb can one get?

Do you really believe that smoking 2 cig's per day will harm either the mother or baby?
Do you know the short and or long term effects? or are you just spouting opinions and personal beliefs?
Yes yes I already know. WHO report (Proven to be exaggerated), ACS study (misleading), EPA report (So much bad science it was rejected in court)
Go ahead and spout stats from the any press release you choose like a parrot. Just remember to use the ones that agree with you.(like you wont)
Repeat it long enough and it just may become true.
But it does sound like you are a leading expert in the field of ignorance. so condem away.

Bob wrote:

In order to not smoke around kids, you must love them more than smoking, however, smokers do not care about anyone other than themselves. Even dogs and cats are being put to sleep because of people smoking around them.

WTF are you kidding? Dogs and cats!!??!! please link this story. Or, finish making it up. I gotta hear how this one ends.. You probably should have started it with....... Knock knock tho.

Talk to a Vet. They will tell you the facts. However, smokers do not understand facts. Most can't even read. If they could read and understand what they read, they would not have to be told not to smoke. Also, I do understand we need smokers, how else will we weed out (no pun) losers!

You want to play the innocent act or the blame game. Well let me tell all you smokers something. I smoked for 16 years and used all your excuses. I smoked while I was pregnate for my 1st born. And you want to know something. He has learning disabilities all around. I regret smoking with him. Don't you dare tell me it had nothing to do with it. I went to a conferance for special needs children and there was a brain specialist there, and he stated that with parents who smoke during and after pregnacny, there children will have noticable learning disibilities by the age of 7-10 years of age. Do you really want to be that selfish for a ciggerate. Find another way to relief your stress and don't take it out on your child by smoking that ciggerate. Their lives are depending on you. And I have not had a ciggerate in over 5 years now. And it was not easy to quit but I thought of my children instead of my self.

oh and one more thing. Blame the tobacco companies. They know all this information. They just want to keep selling their ciggerates. To take your money and make a lot more. And their warnings on the the side of the ciggetate packages are only the tip of the iceburg. They say that is warning enough and when you try to go after them for it there is nothing you can do. The only thing that could be done to put them out of business is for everyone to quit smoking. But, unforunately there are to many people who just need to have that ciggerate and they gotcha.