Roberts: Health care is not a right

Jul 3, 2012 Full story: Politico 290

"The mandate is not a legal command to buy insurance," Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in his health care ruling Thursday.

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Bill from NYC

Anonymous Proxy

#279 Jul 5, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>I share your disdain of Thomas and Scalia, but Kagan is no prize either. I am sure Obama could have done much better in nominating a Supreme Court justice.
I disagree as there was no one else better qualified than Kagan, She helped draft Obamacare and she voted for it rightly so. You agree?

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#280 Jul 5, 2012
Bill from NYC wrote:
<quoted text>I am a Marine attached to the 44th GS and thank the lord we have 99% liberals who are on the right side, Obamas side. Semper Fi.
If Barack Obama has an immediate eligibility problem, it is more likely to derive from the Social Security Number he has been using for the last 25 years than from his birth certificate.

Ohio private investigator Susan Daniels has seen to that. On Monday, July 2, she filed suit in Geauga County (Ohio) Common Pleas Court demanding that Jon Husted, Ohio secretary of state, remove Obama’s name from the ballot until Obama can prove the validity of his Social Security Number.


Daniels, who has vetted thousands of Social Security Numbers for numerous other clients, has done her homework. In her filing, she thoroughly documents her contention “that Barack Obama has repeatedly, consistently, and with intent misrepresented himself by using a fraudulently obtained Social Security Number.”

To acquire appropriate standing in court, Daniels has gone to the trouble of establishing herself as a valid write-in candidate for president. Before she is through, this 70-something mother of seven, who has been a licensed Ohio PI since 1995, may cause Obama more trouble than the Romney campaign.

Daniels started her investigation in August 2009. Given her profession, she has been able to access a variety of proprietary databases. What she learned without much trouble is that Obama has been using a Social Security Number with the prefix “042&#8243; since 1986.

As she discovered, the “042&#8243; number is reserved for the exclusive use of individuals who register in Connecticut. When she ran 10 sequential numbers before and after Obama’s, all returned with the documentation “issued 1977-1979 in CT.”

When Daniels ran the numbers immediately flanking Obama’s, she came to the firm conviction that Obama’s number was issued in March 1977 in Connecticut.

By all accounts, as Daniels thoroughly documents, Obama was then a 15-year-old living in Hawaii. There is no record of him even visiting Connecticut in or near this time frame.

To have gotten a Social Security card at this time Obama would have had to show up for a “mandatory in-person interview.” This could not have taken place in Connecticut. Obama’s sister, Maya, by contrast, uses a number appropriate for a Hawaiian resident.

Wow, first fake information in his books, and now this.......who is this masked man..........

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#281 Jul 5, 2012
Bill from NYC wrote:
<quoted text>I disagree as there was no one else better qualified than Kagan, She helped draft Obamacare and she voted for it rightly so. You agree?
Well that didn't take long after the move.

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#282 Jul 5, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Obama being behind 8 points in Cnn's new poll showing Romney ahead in 15 swing states.........you do know what swing states are huh cupcake. Their proving the over used Media Matters electoral map is so passe that it is barly usable as tollet paper.
I just went to the CNN website and saw that Obama held a 3 point lead which is less than the statistical range for error of +/- 3.5% in the latest one I could find on the CNN website.

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#283 Jul 5, 2012
Even liberals get it right sometimes...

Liberals fear the John Roberts rebound
By JOSH GERSTEIN | 7/3/12 4:43 AM EDT

Liberals who celebrated the Supreme Court’s decision on health care may be nursing an ugly hangover after the justices dive back into their work this fall, with a docket likely to be loaded with controversial cases.

And left-leaning courtwatchers are already worried about the jurist who brought them such relief last week: Chief Justice John Roberts.

The chief will have plenty of chances to make his mark in the next term. Already, the justices are planning to delve into the politically charged issue of affirmative action. They may well add hot-button disputes over same-sex marriage rights and voter ID laws. And the court could even take up the constitutionality of the landmark law Congress passed nearly half a century ago to guarantee African-Americans equal access to the polls: the Voting Rights Act.

The looming slate of cases could have far-reaching impact for the nation. Liberals and President Barack Obama’s administration have strong reason to expect at least some big disappointments, despite the jubilation they felt when Roberts joined with the court’ s liberal wing to uphold Obama’s health care law. Conservatives could be in line for a series of major wins.....

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/780...

If liberals are worried, it's because they should be....

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#284 Jul 5, 2012
reinhard gehlen wrote:
<quoted text>GOPs dirty little secret Washington Times Headline June 29, 1989 | NowPublic Photo ...
Mar 2, 2005 ... Washington Times Headline June 29, 1989 by salsa. Original file can be found at
http://www.iapprovethismessiah.com/spence.htm ......
http://www.nowpublic.com/washington_times_hea ...- 42k -
Information like that will make you invisible.
Topix does not have an open BOD.

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#285 Jul 5, 2012
Bill from NYC wrote:
<quoted text>I disagree as there was no one else better qualified than Kagan, She helped draft Obamacare and she voted for it rightly so. You agree?
She is as radical left as Scalia and Thomas are radical right. I don't care for political extremists at either end of the spectrum.

Since: Dec 07

Clermont, Florida

#287 Jul 5, 2012
Bill from NYC wrote:
<quoted text>I disagree as there was no one else better qualified than Kagan, She helped draft Obamacare and she voted for it rightly so. You agree?
Are you another fake Marine on here? Where on earth is your integrity? Kagan should have recused herself based on law.

Recusal is the process by which a judge abstains from participating in a hearing due to a conflict of interest. According to applicable federal law (U.S. Code Title 28, Section 455), a “judge shall recuse [himself or herself] in any case in which the judge’s impartiality might reasonably be questioned.”

28 U.S.C.§ 455 : US Code - Section 455: Disqualification of justice, judge, or magistrate judge
...
(3) Where he has served in governmental employment and in such
capacity participated as counsel, adviser or material witness
concerning the proceeding or expressed an opinion concerning the
merits of the particular case in controversy;

Kagan served as Obama's Solicitor General. What is so difficult to understand here?
scooter

United States

#288 Jul 5, 2012
Tony wrote:
<quoted text>
Do some research and look it up for yourself and stop being so dependent on others.
can't back up your bullshit,typical fucktard

Since: Jan 10

Las Vegas, NV

#291 Jul 5, 2012
RustyS wrote:
Is paying taxes a right?
If you are an illegal alien, paying taxes makes you a better citizen. For the rest of us, paying taxes is "fair"

Since: Jan 10

Las Vegas, NV

#292 Jul 5, 2012
So healthcare is not a right. That means the current Congress can pass the law, but future Congresses don't have to fund it.

Get out of debt. Stay out of debt. Live within your means. Pay yourself first. Invest it. Make it grow. Call your own shots.
Johnny Gosch

Ishpeming, MI

#293 Jul 5, 2012
Here in Vegas wrote:
<quoted text>
If you are an illegal alien, paying taxes makes you a better citizen. For the rest of us, paying taxes is "fair"
Operation AJAX---------- To understand the nature of American and British “democracy promotion” in Iran, it is important to examine their historical practices regarding “democracy” in Iran. Specifically, the events of 1953 present a very important picture, in which the United States orchestrated its first foreign coup, with guidance and direction from the British, who had extensive oil interests in Iran. The first democratically elected government of Mohommad Mossadeq in 1951 announced the nationalization of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (later to be re-named British Petroleum), which had an exclusive monopoly on Iranian oil. This naturally angered the British, who, in 1952, convinced the CIA to help in a plot to overthrow Iran’s government.

The idea to topple the Iranian government was born in Britain, but it didn’t take much to convince the CIA to launch a joint operation with the SIS. Government documents were made public which revealed that CIA “officers orchestrating the Iran coup worked directly with royalist Iranian military officers, handpicked the prime minister's replacement, sent a stream of envoys to bolster the shah's courage, directed a campaign of bombings by Iranians posing as members of the Communist Party, and planted articles and editorial cartoons in newspapers.” The strategy was aimed at supporting an Iranian General and the Shah through CIA assets and financing, which would overthrow Mossadeq,“particularly if this combination should be able to get the largest mobs in the streets.”[67]

The Shah was to play a pivotal role, as he was “to stand fast as the C.I.A. stirred up popular unrest and then, as the country lurched toward chaos, to issue royal decrees dismissing Dr. Mossadegh and appointing General Zahedi prime minister.” CIA operatives stoked pressure by pretending to be Iranian Communists, threatening Muslim leaders with “savage punishment if they opposed Mossadegh,” in an effort to stir anti-Communist and anti-Mossadeq sentiments in the religious community. The CIA even bombed the house of a prominent Muslim. Further, the CIA was advancing a major propaganda campaign, as a major newspaper owner was paid $45,000 to support the efforts. The CIA, once the coup was underway, used American media as propaganda, in an attempt to legitimize the coup plotters, as the CIA sent The Associated Press a news release saying that,“unofficial reports are current to the effect that leaders of the plot are armed with two decrees of the shah, one dismissing Mossadegh and the other appointing General Zahedi to replace him.” The CIA also disseminated this propaganda through Iranian media.
Johnny Gosch

Ishpeming, MI

#294 Jul 5, 2012
The Central Intelligence Agency Act, Pub.L. 81-110, is a United States federal law enacted in 1949.

The Act, also called the "CIA Act of 1949" or "Public Law 110" permitted the Central Intelligence Agency to use confidential fiscal and administrative procedures and exempting it from many of the usual limitations on the use of federal funds. The act (Section 6) also exempted the CIA from having to disclose its "organization, functions, officials, titles, salaries, or numbers of personnel employed." It also created a program called "PL-110" to handle defectors and other "essential aliens" outside normal immigration procedures, as well as give those persons cover stories and economic support. It was passed by congress May 27.

The Syrian coup d'état of March 1949 was a bloodless coup d'état that took place on March 29 and was the first military coup in the history of Syria. It was led by the Army chief of staff at the time, Husni al-Zaim. Syria's President, Shukri al-Kuwatli, was briefly imprisoned, but then released into exile in Egypt. Al-Za'im also imprisoned many political leaders, such as Munir al-Ajlani, whom he accused of conspiring to overthrow the republic. The coup was carried out with discreet backing of the American embassy, and possibly assisted by the Syrian Social Nationalist Party, although al-Za'im himself is not known to have been a member. According to Joseph Massad, a professor of Modern Arab Politics and Intellectual History at Columbia University, the coup was sponsored by the United States CIA [1] a conclusion in agreement with other historians such as Professor Douglas Little, and declassified records.[2] The coup is also described by author Irene Gendzier, who states that "CIA agents Miles Copeland and Stephen Meade..were directly involved in the coup."[3]

Among the officers that assisted al-Za'ims takeover was Adib al-Shishakli and Sami al-Hinnawi, both of whom would later become military leaders of the country
Lib

San Diego, CA

#295 Jul 5, 2012
Here in Vegas wrote:
So healthcare is not a right. That means the current Congress can pass the law, but future Congresses don't have to fund it.
Get out of debt. Stay out of debt. Live within your means. Pay yourself first. Invest it. Make it grow. Call your own shots.
It is a right! When will conservative morons realize that health is much more important than money??
Captain_Morgan02

Waxhaw, NC

#296 Jul 5, 2012
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>Then you have to end Socialist Security and government Medicare. End the socialism.
I'm totally fine with that. If I was given a chance to opt out and use my money to make my own investments id jump at the chance.
Captain_Morgan02

Waxhaw, NC

#297 Jul 5, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>He will still be held back by checks and balances built into our Constitution. Even if he is reelected, it is doubtful he will have enough of a majority in either the Senate or House to ram any such ideas (if they even exist) down the people's throats.
That's why the elections for Senate are probably just as, if not more important this time around.
Cat74

Mchenry, IL

#298 Jul 5, 2012
If health care is so important why won't the greedy needy get a job, and pay for their own? Because they don't think it is that important. Your healthcare is your concern, not mine. So pay up.

Since: Jan 10

Las Vegas, NV

#299 Jul 5, 2012
Lib wrote:
<quoted text> It is a right! When will conservative morons realize that health is much more important than money??
In what article in the Bill of Rights?

Since: Jan 10

Las Vegas, NV

#300 Jul 5, 2012
Lib wrote:
<quoted text> It is a right! When will conservative morons realize that health is much more important than money??
Oops on me. You said "health". I read "healthcare".

Your "health" is your responsibility. 2/3 of the country is fat. No exercise, diabetic, HBP, smokes, booze, drugs, risky behavior, stress et al. Nobody should pay for your irresponsibility.

Exercise your right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness by living a healthy lifestyle. Then we can talk about the privilege of healthcare at other's expense.

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#302 Jul 6, 2012
Captain_Morgan02 wrote:
<quoted text>
That's why the elections for Senate are probably just as, if not more important this time around.
Nobdy realistically expects the democrats to get a 2/3 plurality in the Senate. Any attempt to ratify an anti-firearms treaty will fall flat on its face.

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