'5% of admissions' smoking-related

NOW HERE'S SOME GOOD NEWS!- AMAZING how they can TWIST it to sound TERRIBLE!!!

In England 21% of the population smokes - Yet ONLY 5% of hospital admissions is "Smoking related"

Again they are PROVING - the smoking population fares MUCH BETTER than their NONSMOKING counterparts!!!

HOW STUPID ARE THESE PEOPLE!- I mean REALLY!!??

Well, we have already SEEN how stupid they are on THIS forum!!

Hugh Jass Jr wrote:

NOW HERE'S SOME GOOD NEWS!- AMAZING how they can TWIST it to sound TERRIBLE!!!
In England 21% of the population smokes - Yet ONLY 5% of hospital admissions is "Smoking related"
Again they are PROVING - the smoking population fares MUCH BETTER than their NONSMOKING counterparts!!!
HOW STUPID ARE THESE PEOPLE!- I mean REALLY!!??
Well, we have already SEEN how stupid they are on THIS forum!!

5% of hospital admissions stink like shit then.

Hugh Jass Jr wrote:

HOW STUPID ARE THESE PEOPLE!- I mean REALLY!!??

Well the post by smokers are gay has certainly answered THIS question!

Smoky Joe wrote:

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Well the post by smokers are gay has certainly answered THIS question!

you're gay

Hugh Jass Jr wrote:

NOW HERE'S SOME GOOD NEWS!- AMAZING how they can TWIST it to sound TERRIBLE!!!
In England 21% of the population smokes - Yet ONLY 5% of hospital admissions is "Smoking related"
Again they are PROVING - the smoking population fares MUCH BETTER than their NONSMOKING counterparts!!!
HOW STUPID ARE THESE PEOPLE!- I mean REALLY!!??
Well, we have already SEEN how stupid they are on THIS forum!!

Hugh Junior, are you serious? Here's an explanation of the numbers: Smokers are 20% of the population. When they go to the hospital, smoking is the root cause of their disease 25% of the time. 25% of 20% equals 5%.

Old Guy wrote:

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Hugh Junior, are you serious? Here's an explanation of the numbers: Smokers are 20% of the population. When they go to the hospital, smoking is the root cause of their disease 25% of the time. 25% of 20% equals 5%.

Tobacco Control Scotland has admitted it has no record of any deaths or demonstrable harm caused to anyone from second hand smoke as the UK Govt pushes forward the idea of third hand smoke, aka Invisible Smoke, without any evidence at all.

Bill Gibson, The International Coalition Against Prohibition (TICAP) chairman, was interested to know how many actual deaths and respiratory illnesses were recorded in Scotland from passive smoking, given the reported guesstimate 13,000 figure which is repeated parrot fashion year after year.

He put in an FOI request and found that there wasn't one death or respiratory illnesses attributed to SHS or tobacco. Perhaps I should repeat that. Not one death has been recorded in Scotland as definitely related to tobacco smoking or passive smoking.

patnurseblog.blogspot.co.uk/20 12 ... eaths.html

If we did the same the world over we would get the same answer.

Remember this story from last year:

B.S. Study: 600,000 People Die Worldwide From Secondhand Smoke Every Year

grendelreport.posterous.com/bs ...

JOINT STATEMENT ON THE RE-ASSESSMENT OF THE TOXICOLOGICAL TESTING OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS"
7 October, the COT meeting on 26 October and the COC meeting on 18
November 2004.

http://cot.food.gov .
uk/pdfs/cotstatement
tobacco0409

"5. The Committees commented that tobacco smoke was a highly complex chemical mixture and that the causative agents for smoke induced diseases (such as cardiovascular disease, cancer, effects on reproduction and on offspring) was unknown. The mechanisms by which tobacco induced adverse effects were not established. The best information related to tobacco smoke - induced lung cancer, but even in this instance a detailed mechanism was not available. The Committees therefore agreed that on the basis of current knowledge it would be very difficult to identify a toxicological testing strategy or a biomonitoring approach for use in volunteer studies with smokers where the end-points determined or biomarkers measured were predictive of the overall burden of tobacco-induced adverse disease."

In other words ... our first hand smoke theory is so lame we can't even design a bogus lab experiment to prove it. In fact ... we don't even know how tobacco does all of the magical things we claim it does.

The greatest threat to the second hand theory is the weakness of the first hand theory.

Both of your links are broken, Confederate. (Guess that's a problem when you cut and paste old stuff instead of commenting on the current story.)

cot.food.gov .uk/pdfs/tox201208.pdf

JOINT STATEMENT ON THE RE-ASSESSMENT OF THE TOXICOLOGICAL TESTING OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS"
7 October, the COT meeting on 26 October and the COC meeting on 18
November 2004.

Its been archived and took 2 minutes to find!

Point is they have never ever proven one thing about tobacco they claim! Much less second hand smoke!

B.S. Study: 600,000 People Die Worldwide From Secondhand Smoke Every Year

http://grendelreport.posterous.com/bs-study-6...

http://patnurseblog.blogspot.com/2012/04/foi-...

Old Guy wrote:

Hugh Junior, are you serious? Here's an explanation of the numbers: Smokers are 20% of the population. When they go to the hospital, smoking is the root cause of their disease 25% of the time. 25% of 20% equals 5%.

Don't confuse him with math, he thinks he has evidence of something other than how stupid he is.

A frisbee is a tool to create the illusion of a UFO flying saucer its also the plaything of leftist liberal progressives at socialist training camps called universities. It was once used to train retards in motor skills although a failure some retards still call themselves a frisbee!

confederate1989 wrote:

A frisbee is a tool to create the illusion of a UFO flying saucer its also the plaything of leftist liberal progressives at socialist training camps called universities.

Notice how he stigmatizes higher education? He's actually declaring that being educated is something to be ashamed of.
He actively admonishes being smart. He's actually PROUD of being uneducated.

Great demonstration of the only defense mechanism simpletons have....

Thanks, Confederate. You've just shown us all we need to know about you.

Edumicated! Who would want a university degree in todays leftist training grounds called universities! Political movements is about all you get there along with a long list of revisionism in nearly every subject taught. I had 2 years of University schooling between Nashville Tech and vanderbilt University.......... I know a Brazillian Ethics professor who has your vision and outlooks. Perhaps you are him!

Yes, indeed. Vilify education. Stupidity is the true path to success, eh?

You failed to complete an education at TWO universities while taking Brazilian Ethics? You parents must be so proud.

Every post you expose just a little bit more of your true self. Thanks for showing the world what you're worth.

confederate1989 wrote:

A frisbee is a tool to create the illusion of a UFO flying saucer its also the plaything of leftist liberal progressives at socialist training camps called universities. It was once used to train retards in motor skills although a failure some retards still call themselves a frisbee!

Very well stated.

Fisbee (n) A plastic toy.

Old Guy wrote:

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Hugh Junior, are you serious? Here's an explanation of the numbers: Smokers are 20% of the population. When they go to the hospital, smoking is the root cause of their disease 25% of the time. 25% of 20% equals 5%.

First of all Smoking is NOT the root cause of their admission to the hospital (you are TWISTING again!!)

The reason for their hospital visit is a (alleged) SMOKING RELATED DISEASE or PROBLEM!- Now - just to try to make you a bit smarter - about 3/4 of the major diseases are ALLEGEDLY smoking related!

Lets assume that in Europe (England)- the percentages are about the same as the US - According to the CDC - More NONSMOKERS DIE FROM SMOKING RELATED DISEASES than smokers do!(again they are ONLY ALLEGED SMOKING RELATED)

In other words only 5% percent of admissions were for SMOKERS with SMOKING RELATED DISEASES - AND - using your own math + the CDC's revelation - approx 26 to 30% the other 95% were NON smokers with SMOKING RELATED DISEASES!!!

The rest probably included MANY smokers with NON smoking related problems.

Any way you want to cut it - 95% were NOT SMOKERS WITH SMOKING RELATED DISEASES or PROBLEMS!!!!!!

Get over it Old Guy - No matter HOW you live your life - you (and your buddies) are STILL GONNA DIE!!!!

Not 1 Death or Sickness Etiologically Assigned to Tobacco. All the diseases attributed to smoking are also present in non smokers. It means, in other words, that they are multifactorial, that is, the result of the interaction of tens, hundreds, sometimes thousands of factors, either known or suspected contributors - of which smoking can be one

Hugh Jass Jr wrote:

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According to the CDC - More NONSMOKERS DIE FROM SMOKING RELATED DISEASES than smokers do!

I don't believe you. How about providing a link to where CDC says that?

According to the World Health Organization: "Tobacco kills nearly six million people each year, of whom more than 5 million are users and ex users and more than 600 000 are nonsmokers exposed to second-hand smoke."

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs3...

confederate1989 wrote:

Edumicated! Who would want a university degree in todays leftist training grounds called universities!

"The typical college graduate earns an estimated $650,000 more than the typical high school graduate over the course of a 40-year career..."

http://pewresearch.org/databank/dailynumber/...