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Obama: Health Care Reform is No Longer a Luxury

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Who cares?If someone is incapable of supporting themselves,they are superfluous.Your inane posts prove that libs are totally incapable of reason and logical thought.You "feel" something is right and conclude,without any proof whatsoever,that what you feel is a natural law.Get this,lib.Every time you libs run things,you screw up.The "Great Society" was a disaster.Jimmy Carter was a disaster.The first two years of Bill Clinton were pretty bad.(He wised up after that and did fairly good).But the libs CAUSED this recession.And with typical lib cowardice,lay the blame on Bush.Bush is gone.You libs are runnin' things again.See any signs of recovery?Since you Dems took over in 2007,the Market has crashed over 6000 points.Unemployment has gone up from 4.5% to 10% or more.And yet you want us to trust YOU with our healthcare?What you really want is a handout.What the lib Bigwigs want is another block of dependent sub-citizens to vote for them.You libs wrecked our once fine public schools.Now you want our healthcare.85% of Americans ARE covered and most LIKE their coverage.Who cares about the 15% minority?They,and you,are worthless anyway.
Oregon Is Disgusting wrote:
"Unmet health needs for health care service were slightly higher overall in the U.S.(13% vs 11% for Canada).
They were strongly associated with insurance coverage and income in the U.S. but not in Canada. Unmet needs for prescription drugs were associated with insurance and income status in both countries.
However, the effect of insurance status was much larger in the U.S."
US National Institutes of Health
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Enochs fire wrote:
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LOL........
I can just see your fatass rolling on the floor.
Alan Keyes wasnt on the ballot.
If you really think you kicked my ass,I can't help laughing.
Yer asskicker must be broke cause I didnt feel a thing.
All your liberhole distraction wont help your boy get re-elected.
He has shown himself to be weak in leadership and rather ignorant when it comes to economics.
If you think you hated Bush's trickle down economy,wait til you get a taste of Obama's trickle up poverty.
Jimmy Carter with a tan is going away in 2012.
LOL...
Good luck with that.
You have no idea what I look like. You voted for Alan Keyes. That's all I need to know about you. It wasn't GW Bush's trickle down economy that started this...it was REAGAN's...or more real, GHW Bush, Alan Greenspan and Dick Cheney's trickle down (read....piss on you) economy.

I know Alan Keyes wasn't on the ballot except in California, Colorado, and Florida. So what's your point?

So, lets talk about what is going to happen if Obama "goes away" in 2012. Well, whadda think?

Why do you keep bringing up Jimmy Carter? He's not relevant other than the fact Obama has been handed the same mess Carter was handed.

Are you so tripped out you don't see I think Obama is a tool? Like I said...after 8 years of the most lawless administration in history, we all had hope. NOW READ THIS VERY CAREFULLY... Obama is continuing to carry out the Bush Doctrine...He is NOT doing what the American people mandated him to do. One of those things being a national health care policy. Obama is pandering to the insurance lobby. Get it? If the vitriol of the extreme right, you know, nut cases like Rush Limbaugh and yourself, would shut the hell up so we all can hear ourselves think, maybe we could figure out what to do. I know one true thing...the FASCIST, TOTALITARIAN Alan Keyes and his ilk have no place in America. Apparently the rest of America thinks so, too. They said so with only 47,000 votes.

Now...Do you have anything of value to add to this or are you just going to keep sounding like a jerk with stupid ad homs?

CHECK OUT THE "PARTY GRAPHICS" OF THE SUPPORTERS OF ALAN KEYES...WHOA BABY! It's the Taliban, the KKK and Third Reich all rolled into one....AND YOU SUPPORT THESE PEOPLE? ROFLMAO (sorry, I can't believe anyone takes this nut case seriously)

http://www.falangist.com/graficus.htm
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Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. Yawn.
CtC

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But his guess was pretty close,or you would not go into another paranoid rant.Jimmy Carter was handed a slightly weak,but stable economy.HE F------ it up.Read a book.Or better yet,have someone read it to you.There might be words of more than one sylable.Beam me up,Scottie.No intelligent lifeforms here!
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You have no idea what I look like. You voted for Alan Keyes. That's all I need to know about you. It wasn't GW Bush's trickle down economy that started this...it was REAGAN's...or more real, GHW Bush, Alan Greenspan and Dick Cheney's trickle down (read....piss on you) economy.
I know Alan Keyes wasn't on the ballot except in California, Colorado, and Florida. So what's your point?
So, lets talk about what is going to happen if Obama "goes away" in 2012. Well, whadda think?
Why do you keep bringing up Jimmy Carter? He's not relevant other than the fact Obama has been handed the same mess Carter was handed.
Are you so tripped out you don't see I think Obama is a tool? Like I said...after 8 years of the most lawless administration in history, we all had hope. NOW READ THIS VERY CAREFULLY... Obama is continuing to carry out the Bush Doctrine...He is NOT doing what the American people mandated him to do. One of those things being a national health care policy. Obama is pandering to the insurance lobby. Get it? If the vitriol of the extreme right, you know, nut cases like Rush Limbaugh and yourself, would shut the hell up so we all can hear ourselves think, maybe we could figure out what to do. I know one true thing...the FASCIST, TOTALITARIAN Alan Keyes and his ilk have no place in America. Apparently the rest of America thinks so, too. They said so with only 47,000 votes.
Now...Do you have anything of value to add to this or are you just going to keep sounding like a jerk with stupid ad homs?
CHECK OUT THE "PARTY GRAPHICS" OF THE SUPPORTERS OF ALAN KEYES...WHOA BABY! It's the Taliban, the KKK and Third Reich all rolled into one....AND YOU SUPPORT THESE PEOPLE? ROFLMAO (sorry, I can't believe anyone takes this nut case seriously)
http://www.falangist.com/graficus.htm
CtC

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REAGAN,the greatest president in the 20th century,took the WORST economy in history and turned it into 25 years of prosperity.Obama seems,so far,to be another Jimmy.Here is hoping he sees,and mends,the error of his ways.And LEAVE OUR HC ALONE!If 15% are uninsured,it is not my concern.MY insurance is just peachy.PRIVATE HMO.Rush Limbaugh rules.Now,go to your party.The Loch Ness Monster and bigfoot are having a poker game at Darth Vaders house.The Clingons are bringing the beer.Enjoy!
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I think skynet just became self aware.

oh boyo.
AynRandSux

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CtC wrote:
But his guess was pretty close,or you would not go into another paranoid rant.Jimmy Carter was handed a slightly weak,but stable economy.HE F------ it up.Read a book.Or better yet,have someone read it to you.There might be words of more than one sylable.Beam me up,Scottie.No intelligent lifeforms here!<quoted text>
Yawn
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Reagan = the second worst president in US History.
Bush = the worst, hands down. Worse than Reagan and Bongo.

The health care industry is ferociously spreading silly rumors about the system that every other industrialized country has: nationalized health care.

They are spending $1.4 Million each and every day in order to defeat ALL reform. They only want people to pay ever increasing premiums only to be rescinded when they try to get health care.

That is the state of the US's health insurance industry. It is disgusting.

It is truly disgusting.
CtC

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Yes.You ARE INDEED nuts and paranoid.PAID comments?Don't you have a date on Neptune or something?Maybe you should ask the Wizard for a brain instead of scarin' crows.
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Oh BTW...go back and look....Ray Charles could see that "comment" was directed at me. What a fool you are. Really...all anyone has to do is go back a few pages in this, or any thread you've been on, to catch your act. No, I'm not nuts or paranoid. What I am is schooled in your ways, since I've been observing you for well over a year, now. Like I told you one time...a niece of mine did a whole term paper based on observations of you and your sock puppets. She identified and cataloged your tactics and syntax. You still don't get it, do you? LOL Best you remain in the day room at "Shady Acres". No one cares about you or your PAID for opinion.
Back to Donkeyland with ya... I've got better things to do...
ALAN KEYES?? ROFLMAO
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Great piece by Bill Moyers on PBS. He had a long interview with Wendell Potter, the former Cigna Executive. He worked for them for 15 years until he finally saw the hell that is our health care system.

He saw this:

http://www.appalshop.org/ccc/...

A huge number of Americans came from neighboring states to get free (really free) health care. They set up shop in animals stalls and on gurneys in the rain. There was no privacy, there were huge lines...this is the state of American health care.

The richest country ever and this is the garbage that happens...and these people were the lucky ones. They received care.

What is wrong with this country and what the heck is wrong with the people on this thread who are against health care for all America. All of you are just one major illness or accident away from this.
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CtC wrote:
Yes.You ARE INDEED nuts and paranoid.PAID comments?Don't you have a date on Neptune or something?Maybe you should ask the Wizard for a brain instead of scarin' crows. <quoted text>
Oh, you'd like to think I'm nuts...because I've identified the PAID TROLLS on this forum. Why do you keep posting to me? Why do you think I care about what you think? I don't. You've proved yourself to be a lying idiot. LOL Excuse me, but aren't you the one that thinks "The Grapes of Wrath" is about Okies refusing welfare? What a twit! Maybe you need to pull your head out of Uranus! BTW...Ronnie Raygun was beginning to display symptoms of Alzheimer's from day one and certainly after the assassination attempt by John Hinckely. Odd thing about that attempt...John Hinckely's brother was having dinner with Neil Bush the night before.
http://www.voxfux.com/features/hinckley_bush_...

Boy, does that stink!

About 2 months into his second term the Alzheimer's was obvious, which leaves the question, who was running this country because it wasn't Ronnie. Why don't you do some reasearch....I'll give you a hint...GHW Bush was vice. Ronnie was a tool of the Neo-Cons (so is Obama). LOL You know nothing!

"In Reagan's second term in office, the Iran-Contra Affair brought scandal to the presidency when it was discovered that the government had traded weapons for hostages. Though Reagan initially denied knowing about it, he later announced that it was "a mistake." It is possible that memory losses from Alzheimer's had already begun."
http://history1900s.about.com/od/ronaldreagan...

"Few have the imagination for reality"

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Oregon Is Disgusting wrote:
Great piece by Bill Moyers on PBS. He had a long interview with Wendell Potter, the former Cigna Executive. He worked for them for 15 years until he finally saw the hell that is our health care system.
He saw this:
http://www.appalshop.org/ccc/...
A huge number of Americans came from neighboring states to get free (really free) health care. They set up shop in animals stalls and on gurneys in the rain. There was no privacy, there were huge lines...this is the state of American health care.
The richest country ever and this is the garbage that happens...and these people were the lucky ones. They received care.
What is wrong with this country and what the heck is wrong with the people on this thread who are against health care for all America. All of you are just one major illness or accident away from this.
The rich are different than the rest of us. They have "arrived". They are "gods". Most of them profess to be Christians yet they have never really read about the teachings of Christ. You will not get through to them no matter how you try. They believe the poor are a commodity to be used like flour is used in a bakery. When their usefulness is over, they are tossed out like an old shoe. IF you keep a large poor population, this commodity is always available for exploitation. Ask any of the wealthy if they support the minimum wage. Ask any of the wealthy if they support food stamps. "are there no prisons, are there no workhouses" Now you think you can convince them to support universal healthcare ? Obama and the democrats have ONE chance to pass this and less than ONE year to do it in.
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This will help you prove your point...

WHO RULES AMERICA
Wealth, Income, and Power
by G. William Domhoff
September 2005 (updated May 2009)

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/pow...
CtC

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Good.Those who EARN deserve it.The "RICH" create JOBS.The Gov't creates nothing.Except for the military and foreign trade agreements,they have NO legitimate function.Those who say "Why doesn't the Gov't DO something?" are losers.Those who say "What can I do to improve my situation?" are the winners.Medicine is the same.After 12 tough years of HARD training,a doctor expects something for him/herself.And becoming a Gov't paid bureaucrat on a fixed salary is NO incentive.Quality would go down the tubes with UHC.The real brains would go into research while second raters take care of patients.The USA has the best medical TECHNOLOGY in the world.We ONCE had the best public schools.The Gov't and the NEA put an end to that.We once made the best cars.The UNIONS wrecked that.Is medicine next?Tune in 6 months from now.We should have the answer.As far as PAID TROLLS,that is a paranoid fantasy.Did you ever stop to think that there ARE real people who disagree with you?Calling us all "Sock Puppets" and "Paid Trolls" gets you the scorn you deserve.I hope the Wizard grants you your wish. TA TA!
AynRandSux wrote:
This will help you prove your point...
WHO RULES AMERICA
Wealth, Income, and Power
by G. William Domhoff
September 2005 (updated May 2009)
http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/pow...
CtC

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It is those selfsame Democrats who NEED a large "poor" sector.As long as the welfarte checks arrive,they have a large voting block.Hillary Rodham was QUOTED as to calling them "useful idiots".
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The rich are different than the rest of us. They have "arrived". They are "gods". Most of them profess to be Christians yet they have never really read about the teachings of Christ. You will not get through to them no matter how you try. They believe the poor are a commodity to be used like flour is used in a bakery. When their usefulness is over, they are tossed out like an old shoe. IF you keep a large poor population, this commodity is always available for exploitation. Ask any of the wealthy if they support the minimum wage. Ask any of the wealthy if they support food stamps. "are there no prisons, are there no workhouses" Now you think you can convince them to support universal healthcare ? Obama and the democrats have ONE chance to pass this and less than ONE year to do it in.
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Overtaxed wrote:
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The rich are different than the rest of us. They have "arrived". They are "gods". Most of them profess to be Christians yet they have never really read about the teachings of Christ. You will not get through to them no matter how you try. They believe the poor are a commodity to be used like flour is used in a bakery. When their usefulness is over, they are tossed out like an old shoe. IF you keep a large poor population, this commodity is always available for exploitation. Ask any of the wealthy if they support the minimum wage. Ask any of the wealthy if they support food stamps. "are there no prisons, are there no workhouses" Now you think you can convince them to support universal healthcare ? Obama and the democrats have ONE chance to pass this and less than ONE year to do it in.
Who so you think Obama & co is working for? They take their orders from and make speeches for the behind-the-scenes rich and powerful who intend to control the unwashed masses though a little Obama sweet talk.
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curious wrote:
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Who so you think Obama & co is working for? They take their orders from and make speeches for the behind-the-scenes rich and powerful who intend to control the unwashed masses though a little Obama sweet talk.
So your take is, there is no difference between Obama and Bush except some sugar coating ? Could be, but so far,I will take my chances with Obama. Ask me again in 3 years.
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I am sick of all of the Bush bashing.And now the Obama bashing.Let us lay the blame where it belongs.The CONGRESS.Start with Chris Dodd and Barney Frank.
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So your take is, there is no difference between Obama and Bush except some sugar coating ? Could be, but so far,I will take my chances with Obama. Ask me again in 3 years.
CtC

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Moyers.Another dirty lib Red.
Oregon Is Disgusting wrote:
Great piece by Bill Moyers on PBS. He had a long interview with Wendell Potter, the former Cigna Executive. He worked for them for 15 years until he finally saw the hell that is our health care system.
He saw this:
http://www.appalshop.org/ccc/...
A huge number of Americans came from neighboring states to get free (really free) health care. They set up shop in animals stalls and on gurneys in the rain. There was no privacy, there were huge lines...this is the state of American health care.
The richest country ever and this is the garbage that happens...and these people were the lucky ones. They received care.
What is wrong with this country and what the heck is wrong with the people on this thread who are against health care for all America. All of you are just one major illness or accident away from this.
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CtC wrote:
I am sick of all of the Bush bashing.And now the Obama bashing.Let us lay the blame where it belongs.The CONGRESS.Start with Chris Dodd and Barney Frank.<quoted text>
Yes please.
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