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Seeking truth
Dearborn, MI
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What's unclear, however, is if he, or any in Congress, will get that the majority of Americans want a Medicare-style, single-payer system as our neighbors to the north in Canada have. There, you have no worry about losing your job and therefore your health insurance, no worry about huge premiums because of pre-existing conditions, and no worry about bankruptcy from medical costs.
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Joe
Winter Park, FL
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Who says that is what most Americans want besides you? By the way Kennedy wants everyone to have to "buy" insurance. Does that burst your bubble of getting "free" insurance?
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hopeandfaith
Memphis, TN
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Obama must be mad.....where does the money come from? We are already printing money out of thin air, begging the Chinese to continue to bankroll us....Americans are so far in debt, and his answer is to open up the credit lines......with his bail outs of big business and with the government exercising its business panache, we are expected to believe that Obama can tackle the health care problem.....Obama must be mad....or delusional at least.
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Joe
Winter Park, FL
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hopeandfaith wrote: Obama must be mad.....where does the money come from? We are already printing money out of thin air, begging the Chinese to continue to bankroll us....Americans are so far in debt, and his answer is to open up the credit lines......with his bail outs of big business and with the government exercising its business panache, we are expected to believe that Obama can tackle the health care problem.....Obama must be mad....or delusional at least. Obama somehow thinks he must be the smartest person ever. He really isn't, he just has socialistic ideologies that he wants implemented and he knows that the more things he throws out there at the same time, the less people can keep track of any of them. Basically our government is being operated in a state of panic and fear and most of population hasn't figured that out yet. At some point the Ponzi scheme will have to end and it will be a very unfortunate time to be living in America, especially to watch it's demise. It's absolutely pathetic to see what's going on.
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unaffordable
Marietta, GA
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So, that's obama's plan... to bail out personal bankruptcies!
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American dood
Vestal, NY
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Yea lets punish the succesfull and reward the lazy drug addicts that will now be on the gov't dole
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Joined: Mar 21, 2008
Comments: 1956
Uniondale, NY
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we know how to read thank you for a good can of spam... Seeking truth wrote: What's unclear, however, is if he, or any in Congress, will get that the majority of Americans want a Medicare-style, single-payer system as our neighbors to the north in Canada have. There, you have no worry about losing your job and therefore your health insurance, no worry about huge premiums because of pre-existing conditions, and no worry about bankruptcy from medical costs.
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Policies
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Joe wrote: <quoted text> Obama somehow thinks he must be the smartest person ever. He really isn't, he just has socialistic ideologies that he wants implemented and he knows that the more things he throws out there at the same time, the less people can keep track of any of them. Basically our government is being operated in a state of panic and fear and most of population hasn't figured that out yet. At some point the Ponzi scheme will have to end and it will be a very unfortunate time to be living in America, especially to watch it's demise. It's absolutely pathetic to see what's going on. Obama's policies are losing more support by the day. After only four months in office, he has changed so many policies, broken with the American way and the Constitution. Still waiting in the wings: Card Check, Carbon cap and trade and a new version of the Fairness Doctrine. In the meantime, we're wracking up a debt that will be impossible to repay, devaluing the dollar and nationalizing banks and businesses that are too big to fail...though they obviously did fail. His promised job creation hasn't materialized and the big rush to get the stimulus and the pork laden omnibus bill were for naught. Nationaized Health Care is going to put more econimic strain on both American families and businesses, which will result in more unemployment. It's a 9.4% now, not counting another 2% or more whose benefits have lapsed and are no longer included in the head count. He's pushing all this through now because by the end of this year, his failed policies and the astronomical debt will start to tell in the economy and even some of his most ardent fans won't be able to ignore the writing on the wall any longer. If he doesn't get it done now, he never will.
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Joined: Mar 21, 2008
Comments: 1956
Uniondale, NY
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Well I still remember the Michael moore movie about health Care and how so many people are having problems with it. If people are going bankrupt, if so many are having problems then we have to fix this problem right? Does socialized health care become the solution or a bigger problem here...?Maybe it can work, so long as only those EMPLOYED recieve health care. With exceptions, seniors, disabled, ect. High penalties for fraud.
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Joined: Mar 21, 2008
Comments: 1956
Uniondale, NY
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Joe wrote: <quoted text> Obama somehow thinks he must be the smartest person ever. He really isn't, he just has socialistic ideologies that he wants implemented and he knows that the more things he throws out there at the same time, the less people can keep track of any of them. Basically our government is being operated in a state of panic and fear and most of population hasn't figured that out yet. At some point the Ponzi scheme will have to end and it will be a very unfortunate time to be living in America, especially to watch it's demise. It's absolutely pathetic to see what's going on. He's throwing so much out there, i bet if he didn't do anything you'd call him worthless and lazy... He's the president he has to tackle every possible problem that america faces. Instead of using this to bash him why don't you add something to a proper solution, or how exactly socializing healthcare is a bad thing and what exactly we should do otherwise? Of course I may be giving you too much credit, but maybe that's because you didn't resort to the normal "Obama's scum, kill treason" that I hear one - liner. While, bailing out banks and several other policies that he has I strongly disagree with, this one I have no grounds to disagree. The system is broken, and we need to fix it.
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Policies
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Jkjkhardcore wrote: <quoted text> He's throwing so much out there, i bet if he didn't do anything you'd call him worthless and lazy... He's the president he has to tackle every possible problem that america faces. Instead of using this to bash him why don't you add something to a proper solution, or how exactly socializing healthcare is a bad thing and what exactly we should do otherwise? Of course I may be giving you too much credit, but maybe that's because you didn't resort to the normal "Obama's scum, kill treason" that I hear one - liner. While, bailing out banks and several other policies that he has I strongly disagree with, this one I have no grounds to disagree. The system is broken, and we need to fix it. If you take a look at the multi billions of dollars in profit that the health insurance providers are making every year at the expense of Americans, you might see a different solution to the cost of health care. The multi-bizillion dollar lawsuits against doctors and hospitals, the pharmacutical companies and the billions that end up in the hands of greedy lawyers. My cousin is a physician. He opened a practice with two fellow doctors. Malpractice insurance costs them $70,000 a year. It's no wonder there's fewer and fewer people in college right now becoming doctors. You have hospital and medical practices indulging in redundant billing practices, which is why insurance companies shave 50% or more off the original bills submitted. But the uninsured American has no idea this happens and there's no one protecting them from it. The way bills are coded, you might be getting charged three times for the same procedure. The government knows about this, so why aren't they doing anything about it? If we got rid of the fraud, capped class action suits, cut the profit out of it for these greedy, bloodsucking lawyers and stopped redundant billing practices, the cost of health care would likely be cut by half or more. But then the government can't get their share of the pie and the money from pharmacutical companies and insurance lobbies will dry up their election funds. We can't have that, now can we?
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socalgawfer
Trabuco Canyon, CA
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Policies wrote: <quoted text> If you take a look at the multi billions of dollars in profit that the health insurance providers are making every year at the expense of Americans, you might see a different solution to the cost of health care. The multi-bizillion dollar lawsuits against doctors and hospitals, the pharmacutical companies and the billions that end up in the hands of greedy lawyers. My cousin is a physician. He opened a practice with two fellow doctors. Malpractice insurance costs them $70,000 a year. It's no wonder there's fewer and fewer people in college right now becoming doctors. You have hospital and medical practices indulging in redundant billing practices, which is why insurance companies shave 50% or more off the original bills submitted. But the uninsured American has no idea this happens and there's no one protecting them from it. The way bills are coded, you might be getting charged three times for the same procedure. The government knows about this, so why aren't they doing anything about it? If we got rid of the fraud, capped class action suits, cut the profit out of it for these greedy, bloodsucking lawyers and stopped redundant billing practices, the cost of health care would likely be cut by half or more. But then the government can't get their share of the pie and the money from pharmacutical companies and insurance lobbies will dry up their election funds. We can't have that, now can we? Not to mention that after the dependancy on a govt subsidized health program is entrenched, the needy will have to keep voting for whoever promises them more stuff for nothing
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Cranky old man
United States
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People bought fine homes they could not afford and a lot of people chose to disregard health insurance to help make the house payment. The never do wells who could not keep a job, or did not want one, and the mexican illegals bleeding welfare for all they can get are the others causing health care problems. People should learn if they can not pay for something, they must do without it. It should not be the responsibility of people who work and pay their bills having to keep up people who always make bad choices. We already have bankruptcy laws, a welfare system, and jails for them.
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Squeeky
Knoxville, TN
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You knuckleheads, it's not socialized medical coverage Obama is working for. It's Universal Coverage. Hospitals and Doctors are stil in private practice. They are not owned and operated by the government!!! If you're going to throw the word "socialism" around, at least understand what it means.
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Joined: Mar 21, 2008
Comments: 1956
Uniondale, NY
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Exactly! LOL, i mean just look how our government handles banks, they toss a couple donations and get billions of dollars in bailouts. I know all about malpractice insurance, and the headaches of trying to be a doctor, I stopped even trying to go to med school once I found out years ago. We definitely need law/lawyer reform as if it's not ridiculous enough. our justice system is just a conveneint way to suck the life out of taxpayers. Policies wrote: <quoted text> If you take a look at the multi billions of dollars in profit that the health insurance providers are making every year at the expense of Americans, you might see a different solution to the cost of health care. The multi-bizillion dollar lawsuits against doctors and hospitals, the pharmacutical companies and the billions that end up in the hands of greedy lawyers. My cousin is a physician. He opened a practice with two fellow doctors. Malpractice insurance costs them $70,000 a year. It's no wonder there's fewer and fewer people in college right now becoming doctors. You have hospital and medical practices indulging in redundant billing practices, which is why insurance companies shave 50% or more off the original bills submitted. But the uninsured American has no idea this happens and there's no one protecting them from it. The way bills are coded, you might be getting charged three times for the same procedure. The government knows about this, so why aren't they doing anything about it? If we got rid of the fraud, capped class action suits, cut the profit out of it for these greedy, bloodsucking lawyers and stopped redundant billing practices, the cost of health care would likely be cut by half or more. But then the government can't get their share of the pie and the money from pharmacutical companies and insurance lobbies will dry up their election funds. We can't have that, now can we?
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Joined: Mar 21, 2008
Comments: 1956
Uniondale, NY
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Squeeky wrote: You knuckleheads, it's not socialized medical coverage Obama is working for. It's Universal Coverage. Hospitals and Doctors are stil in private practice. They are not owned and operated by the government!!! If you're going to throw the word "socialism" around, at least understand what it means. It's partially socialized it doesn't neccesarily mean a bad thing especially if checks balances are implemented to where we benefit. I'm just saying the system is broken and this is one attempt at a solution ya know? But you are right it's not definition socialism, a lot of people just use it to associate obama's polciy on the matter with a negative word to further spam anti-obama nonsense (usually with no backing)
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Joined: Mar 21, 2008
Comments: 1956
Uniondale, NY
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I'm sorry while you do make a terrific point that illegals are leaching off our healthcare and should be cut, it's not solely on the illegals that have created this problem. Re-read policies post, it's a perfect explanation as to why exactly health insurance, medical coverage and the whole field of medicine is being bled try by our justice system and the government. Cranky old man wrote: People bought fine homes they could not afford and a lot of people chose to disregard health insurance to help make the house payment. The never do wells who could not keep a job, or did not want one, and the mexican illegals bleeding welfare for all they can get are the others causing health care problems. People should learn if they can not pay for something, they must do without it. It should not be the responsibility of people who work and pay their bills having to keep up people who always make bad choices. We already have bankruptcy laws, a welfare system, and jails for them.
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Joined: Mar 21, 2008
Comments: 1956
Uniondale, NY
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socalgawfer wrote: <quoted text> Not to mention that after the dependancy on a govt subsidized health program is entrenched, the needy will have to keep voting for whoever promises them more stuff for nothing Your absolutely right it's just one more step to dependencies on government, what ever happened to the "Liberal" party less government. Honestly the closest I see is ron paul and he's a republican. Reason he's probably gotten so much negative attention is because big government fears a politician who wants to do away with government.
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Squeeky
Knoxville, TN
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I'm absolutely amazed when I'm asked how are we going to fund Obama's health care program. Congress can authorize billions of dollars to execute two wars but can't find the political will to find common ground on universal health care. Am I the only one to see the trajic irony here?
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Splittin Hairs
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Jkjkhardcore wrote: <quoted text> Your absolutely right it's just one more step to dependencies on government, what ever happened to the "Liberal" party less government. Honestly the closest I see is ron paul and he's a republican. Reason he's probably gotten so much negative attention is because big government fears a politician who wants to do away with government. I think Ron Paul is a libertarian. Uber right. Democrats love this party, and it is growing by leaps and bounds. It's conservatives and Republicans who are most likely to vote this way, and they will split the conservative vote the way liberals split the Democratic vote for a long time. Libertarians will keep the Dems in power for years. Instead, they should pull the Conservatives more to the right, as I think it was their move to center that did them in. Our government and our people need a balance. One party rule is nothing more than tyranny.
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