Parents home-school to avoid vaccinations

This is what scares me about home-schooling. That people home-school their kids, not because they're interested in making sure Junior is getting the best education around, but because of some grievance they have with the school system. Vaccinations now, but what's next? Keep 'em home because they might learn about human reproduction? They're teaching evolution? The lunchroom is serving beans on a Tuesday?
And let's look at the results of this exercise of freedom; from the article:
"In August, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported measles cases had spiked; 131 cases were reported nationwide for the first seven months of the year, compared with an average of 63 cases per year since 2000.

Of the infected, 91% were un-vaccinated..." the CDC said.

Home-schooled children accounted for 25 out of 30 cases in an outbreak of measles in suburban Chicago in May, according to the CDC. In Grant County in Washington, public health officials tied 11 of 19 measles cases to un-vaccinated home-schooled children."

91% of cases of measles nationwide due to people not vaccinating their kids. Almost triple the amount of new cases. All of which could have been prevented with a simple prick of a needle.

I have a feeling this is only going to be the beginning. I have a feeling that as time goes on, more and more stories will surface showing the true motives behind why people home-school their kids, and it's not gonna be pretty.

Oh horror of horrors!!! The MEASLES!!!

So tell me - how many of those kids DIED from their bout with the measles? None? Typically the only deaths reported from measles occur in areas of EXTREME poverty (as in 3rd world countries) and malnutrition.

But you must be right ... quick go out and get the shot or your kid might get sick for a week and then feel better with no lasting effects.

Or you could run the risk of (unproven, but very controversial) developing autism in your child following an MMR vaccine.

Funny, but chiropractors never get any clinical experience examining, diagnosing or treating anyone with any disease yet they're happy to give "advice" regarding vaccinations. A chiropractic student's clinical experience typically involves 20 or so patients with uncomplicated back pain. Certainly no hospital experience seeing truly sick patients.

Chiropractors like "nucca" are incredibly ignorant as to the dangers of serious childhood diseases. Of course, when you've never spent a day in the hospital caring for children who are seriously ill, its easy to give ignorant advice.

Nucca boy, leave it to the professionals.

And oh yeah, I remember you posting on another site defending the claim that chiropractors cure high blood pressure, pancreatic dysfunction, allergies, bedwetting and diabetes. And you say it can be done by lightly tweeking the side of someone's neck. Regardless of the disease. You Quack!

The chiropractic diaper is full. Empty it.

Lastly, while anyone is free to choose whether or not to vaccinate their kids, a chiropractor is NOT the one to get advice from.

Wisdom wrote:

Funny, but chiropractors never get any clinical experience examining, diagnosing or treating anyone with any disease yet they're happy to give "advice" regarding vaccinations. A chiropractic student's clinical experience typically involves 20 or so patients with uncomplicated back pain. Certainly no hospital experience seeing truly sick patients.

Funny how someone with no clinical experience or even chiropractic training experience is one to get advice from, yet a licensed and trained primary care provider is not. But then again, if whizdip had actually READ what I wrote above he'd notice I never gave any advice - That would require a basic reading comprehension level though.

Wisdom wrote:

Chiropractors like "nucca" are incredibly ignorant as to the dangers of serious childhood diseases. Of course, when you've never spent a day in the hospital caring for children who are seriously ill, its easy to give ignorant advice.
Nucca boy, leave it to the professionals.

Yeah ... I never had both red measles and german measles as a kid, and myself nor my kids have ever been really sick. Tell me whizdip ... what serious dangers are there from the measles? How do they threaten the typical north american child? Stun us with your brilliance and expertise you putz.

Wisdom wrote:

And oh yeah, I remember you posting on another site defending the claim that chiropractors cure high blood pressure, pancreatic dysfunction, allergies, bedwetting and diabetes. And you say it can be done by lightly tweeking the side of someone's neck. Regardless of the disease.

You must have one hell of a memory because I don't post on any other sites that you are likely to visit, and on those I have posted on I've never said anything of the sort. Except to reference the hypertension study that was published and to comment that I have seen several of the other conditions you mentioned improve in patients under upper cervical care - Never made any claims to treatment or cures as you seem apt to assume.

Wisdom wrote:

You Quack!

Random House Dictionary describes a "quack" as a "fraudulent or ignorant pretender to medical skill" or "a person who pretends, professionally or publicly, to have skill, knowledge, or qualifications he or she does not possess.
Now let's see ... which of us is trained as a physician again?

Wisdom wrote:

The chiropractic diaper is full. Empty it.

Still fantasizing about men in diapers, huh? I'm surprised you haven't "exposed" me too given your penchant for fetishes.

Wisdom wrote:

Lastly, while anyone is free to choose whether or not to vaccinate their kids, a chiropractor is NOT the one to get advice from.

No ... much better to listen to some anonymous and raving nutjob who's sole purpose in life is to try and bring down the chiropractic profession by posting the same blathering crap over and over and over again on a news forum. That's who you should get all your advice from!

Right nucca nut. You've had measles so now you fully understand the disease. Ha HA Does that pass for clinical experience in the world of chiropractic?

I don't advise people one way or the other. You do. Again, without ever examining or treating truly sick patients. Without ever treating those childhood diseases that vaccinations have helped eliminate.

I advise all people to speak with medical professionals regarding vaccinations. Not someone who claims to be an expert just because he had the measles.

nucca admits he's a quack when he asks, "which of us is trained as a physician again?" I never claimed to be, but I ain't denying it.

A trained "physician" you are not. Learned you are NOT. You are a chiroquacker. Who has never treated, examined or diagnosed truly sick patients. It is outrageous that you claim to be a "physician" yet your entire clinical experience (like all chiropractic students)consisted of 20 or so patients with limited and uncomplicated back discomfort. Also, your entire treatment regime consists of tweaking the side of someones neck to cure every and any disease known to man. Be it measles or pancreatic dysfunction. And that's a fact. Incredible as it may seem to those people who know nothing about chiropractic. You have been exposed.

You know nothing. Your chiropractic diapers are full.

nucca nut said, " You must have one hell of a memory because I don't post on any other sites that you are likely to visit, and on those I have posted on I've never said anything of the sort. Except to reference the hypertension study that was published and to comment that I have seen several of the other conditions you mentioned improve in patients under upper cervical care - Never made any claims to treatment or cures as you seem apt to assume."

OK dopey, you've posted "one" hypertension study which has been debunked. However, you treat every patient, no matter their condition, with your stupid nucca technique.

You might have a tiny bit of credibility if you stuck to treating only those patients which are sufferring hypertension caused by a minutely misaligned atla vertebrae (Even though those patients do not exist) yet you treat every ptient, no matter their condition, with your stupid "tweak the side of the neck" technique.

You've been exposed as a quack, someone who steals from desperate people.

Your diaper is full. Ughhh.

Chiroquacker nucca ignorantly asks, "I never had both red measles and german measles as a kid, and myself nor my kids have ever been really sick. Tell me whizdip ... what serious dangers are there from the measles? How do they threaten the typical north american child? Stun us with your brilliance and expertise......"

You're asking me? Ha Ha Oh, that's right, you've never examined or treated childhood illnesses, yet you love to give advice. Hmmmm.

One of the reasons these diseases have been curtailed is because of mass vaccinations.

Having said that;

While this forum is not the place to educate you (a self proclaimed "physician" ha ha ) about the risks of Rubella, the risks to a newborn alone, can cause severe problems, from deafness to eye and heart issues. Of course a chiropractor never examines, diagnoses or treats hospitalized patients with serious disease. So how would you have any idea? Oh, you read about the disease and NOW you feel you are qualified to give advice? Only in the world of chiropractic.

Empty your crap.

Perhaps we should then take the advise of one of the world most prominent scientists just as you have suggested wisdumb..

Prominent Scientist Warns of HPV Vaccine Dangers

Independent health researcher Grace Filby, who won a Churchill Fellowship for her research into phage therapy, is calling on the government for more research into the possible side-effects of the HPV vaccine that is currently being given to teenage girls.

Filby believes that not enough is known about the effects of the vaccine on children with pre-existing medical conditions and weakened immune systems. She says, "We simply do not know whether the vaccine interacts with other medication or medical conditions, and the manufacturers have not studied it yet. This could be a very valid reason why some families and schools might hesitate or opt out."

She has this week written to UK education ministers and health officials calling for urgent small-scale independent studies that would highlight any health problems stemming from vaccinations already carried out.
Sources:* Medical News Today October 1, 2008

Is Hepatitis Vaccine Safe?

The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) was developed by the government to report vaccine reactions. Many experts believe that only 10% of the adverse reactions are reported though as reporting is not mandated by law.

Even with only 10% of the problems being reported there were nearly 25,000 VAERS hepatitis B reports from July 1990 to October 31, 1998, showing 439 deaths and 9673 serious reactions involving emergency room visits, hospitalization, disablement or death.

The presence of findings such as brain edema in healthy infants who die very soon after receiving hepatitis B vaccine is profoundly disturbing, especially in view of the frequency of neurologic symptoms in the VAERS.

Does this make any sense?

Is Hepatitis B Vaccine Effective in Newborns?

Vaccine derived immunity is thought to be short lived. Between 30-50% of vaccinated individuals lose their antibiodies within 7 years.

Up to 60% of persons who initially respond will lose detectable antibodies within 12 years.. So that means that these vaccines will provide little to no protection to the real risks of acquiring hepatitis B, promiscuous sexual behavior and IV drug abuse.

Does this make any sense?

How Many Children Are Hurt or Helped By Hepatitis B Vaccine?

Hepatitis B is a rare, mainly blood-transmitted disease. In 1996 only 54 cases of the disease were reported to the CDC in the 0-1 age group. There were 3.9 million births that year, so the observed incidence of hepatitis B in the 0-1 age group was just 0.001%. In the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), there were 1,080 total reports of adverse reactions from hepatitis B vaccine in 1996 in the 0-1 age group, with 47 deaths reported.

Let us put this in simpler terms. For every child with hepatitis B there were 20 that were reported to have severe complications. Let us also remember that only 10% of the reactions are reported to VAERS, so this means:

Traditional medicine is harming 200 children to protect one from hepatitis B.

Does this make any sense?

dre, another chiroquacker who has never seen, treated or diagnosed any childhood illness, attempts to advise people on childhood illnesses like hepatritis.

I'm glad you're keeping up with your "reading".

However it is no substitute for actual clinical experience. Imagine, never seeing or treating a child with hepatitis and yet giving advice on it. Ha HA

And no dre, you cannot treat hepetitis by cracking a neck.

Dummy.

One thing's for sure , these quackers are NOT qualified to give advice concerning any serious health condition.

Their diapers are full. Whewwww!

DrE, isn't it amazing the way the medical community will just ignore information like this about something like the hep B vaccine?

I would also add that it is transmitted in much the same fashion as the aids virus and has an incubation period of up to six months I believe.

Just as we do with rabies vaccine, if a person suspects exposure there is plenty of time to get the vaccine. There is no real medical necessity for mass inoculation.

Damn us chiro frauds. I think we just haven't killed enough people to be considered among the medical elite.

And this is just one vaccine.

Take the entire medical picture as a whole, throw in medical mistakes and then adverse reactions like the one described with HepB vaccine and the medical community becomes just about the biggest cause of injury and death in the US.

And they bitch at us chiros for wanting to retain our patients? They generate a great deal of patients in a much more gruesome manner.

Are you chiropractors still bashing medicine?
Gotta love ignorant fools who pretend to know somehting about healthcare.
When your entire clinical education consists of seeing 20 or so people with back discomfort and never examining, diagnosing, or treating sick patients, YOU quacks are certainly not qualified to discus healthcare.
Did you morons sit around in chiroquackery school and bash those medical doctors who ACTUALLY treat serious illnessES? Those doctors who actually save lives?
What exactly is your alternative to treating any disease? Crack their backs? Does anyone outside of your quack community actually believe anything you say? Ha Ha

Yup, its a whole conspiracy from the medical and scientific community to KILL children. You Idiots really need to get a life.

Then agian, we know where you Idiots run when you get sick.....TO THE MEDICAL DOCTORS.

Now empty your diapers and stop bashing those docotrs who actually treat diseases you know nothing about.

Growing Controversy Over New Merck Vaccines

MerckGardasil, Zostavax, and Rotateq were all vaccines introduced by Merck in late 2005 in an attempt to turn their finances around in the wake of litigation over thousands of deaths allegedly caused by the painkiller Vioxx.

However, Gardasil has caused conflicts between state legislatures who want to require young girls to take it and parents who believe such laws circumvent their rights. Meanwhile, Rotateq, designed to prevent gastrointestinal illnesses in children, has led to growing incidents of intussusception, a rare and life-threatening form of intestinal blockage.

In the wake of the continuing controversy over the Gardasil human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine, Merck has ended its lobbying campaign to make Gardasil a mandatory vaccine in the United States. The American Academy of Pediatrics, which has been supportive of Gardasil, was nonetheless pleased about the end of the campaign, citing concerns about requiring another vaccine for a problem that doesn't have a large impact on health nationwide.
At the same time, reports are being made of side effects associated with Gardasil, including fainting and dizziness. But a potentially far more dangerous risk is the growing incidence of intussusception among children who use Merck's vaccine Rotateq. Intussusception occurs when the intestine telescopes into itself, causing an obstruction of the bowel that is repaired surgically.

Sources:

* USA Today February 21, 2007

* Alliance for Human Research Protection February 8, 2007

* Yahoo News February 13, 2007

Mercury isn't the Only Toxic Item in Vaccines

VaccinesThe aluminum hydroxide used in many vaccines has been linked to symptoms associated with Parkinson's, ALS, and Alzheimer's.

Aluminum hydroxide, which stimulates immune response, has been used for 80 years in vaccines such as those for hepatitis A and B, and the Pentacel cocktail for diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, polio, and meningitis.

Scientists discovered the link after injecting mice with an anthrax vaccine developed for the first Gulf War. After 20 weeks, a fifth of the mice developed a skin allergy, and memory problems increased by 41 times compared to a placebo group. Also, inside the brains of mice, 35 percent of the cells that control movement were destroyed.
U.S. drugmakers are currently testing aluminum hydroxide as an additive in flu shots, even though a recent study of the efficacy of avian flu vaccine found that it only worked roughly 50 percent of the time, and then only at a dose roughly 12 times what is typically given for a seasonal flu vaccine.

Sources:

* Straight.com March 23, 2006

* New England Journal of Medicine March 30, 2006; 354(13): 1343-1351

* USA Today March 30, 2006

Wisdumper keep running from the truth... These articles have nothing to do with chiropractors or Chiropractors opinions. BUT since you value the opinions of medical doctors and feel they only should be given medical advise lets give it a try and see what they think.
Perhaps one of the most shocking pieces ever to appear on television this past April: a six-hour taping of a Congressional investigation into the relationship between vaccines and autism among American children. This footage appeared on C-SPAN and was then archived on their website for a entire month.
On April 6, 2000 Rep. Dan Burton convened the Congressional hearing in which parents repeatedly told similar stories - how their normally developing babies, after MMR or DPT vaccinations, began displaying autistic behaviors, conditions that are often permanent.
Happy, bright children were suddenly losing their abilities to learn, communicate or even recognize their parents.
Amazing testimony was given by experts in the field of autism:
Mary Megson,MD,
Explained how autism has gone from being rare (about one incident per 10,000 children in 1978), to epidemic proportions in 2000 AD:
one case in every 300-500 children in many areas!
Megson's research has shown total deficiency of vitamin A in almost all autistic children.
What depletes the body of vitamin A at 15 months?
The MMR vaccine.
In addition, Megson found that pertussis toxin from the DPT shot disrupted a certain protein that is necessary for retinal formation. This would account for the prevalence of night-blindness and loss of 3D vision so common among autistics.
John O'Leary,PhD
A world-class researcher and molecular biologist from Ireland, using state-of-the-art sequencing technology, showed how he had found the measles virus in the gut of 96% of autistic children, compared to 6.6% in normal children. This virus did not come from the natural disease, but from the measles vaccine.
Dr. O'Leary found measles virus present in 75% of children with Crohn's disease. Crohn's has traditionally been an intestinal disease of adults, following years of dietary abuse. Its appearance in children is a new event, and Dr. O'Leary's work points to the measles virus from vaccines as the likely cause.
V. Singh, MDM
A specialist from Utah State who has studied over 400 cases of autism, found that these children had experienced an autoimmune episode, in which their own bodies had been made to attack the linings of their nervous systems. Dr. Singh characterized the epidemic as a "hyperimmune response to the measles virus."
He stated that 55% of the families said that autism appeared soon after an MMR shot, and that 33% of families said it appeared soon after a DPT shot.
Such neurologic damage is a well-established side-effect of the mercury, aluminum, and formaldehyde used in these vaccines.

Andrew Wakefield, MD

A brilliant researcher from the UK, noted an almost 100% incidence of "lymphoid nodular hyperplasia" or swollen lumps throughout the intestinal tissue of autistics. Such a condition is rare in normal children. Intestinal pathology is characteristic of the autistic child, and the condition generally follows soon after the MMR shot.
Dr. Wakefield explained that as the fragile, newborn intestine cannot function because of its swollen condition, undigested toxins from vaccines and drugs are allowed to get into the liver, which is also in a formative stage.
Liver pathology is very common among autistics. Wakefield's hypothesis is that these same "undegraded toxins," having not been halted by the intestine or the liver, as normally happens, that these toxins are then free to attack the nervous system, and that autism may well be the result.

Kathy Pratt, PhD
Director of the Indiana Center for Autism, stated that 1 in 400 children in Indiana were autistic! With 500,000 cases reported in the U.S., Dr. Pratt stated that autism is now more common than Down's syndrome. Dr. Pratt points out that autism presently may disqualify a person for medical coverage for other, unrelated conditions.

Michael Goldberg, MD

A California pediatrician and researcher, explained how it was impossible to have an epidemic based solely on genetics. That's the standard excuse the CDC and the NIH have been using to explain how autism has grown from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 300 in just 22 years.

Seeing the American democratic system in action in a live Congressional hearing, it soon becomes apparent how the control of information operates, even in the face of overwhelming scientific evidence that we may well be poisoning our own children!

Colleen Boyle was there to represent the Centers for Disease Control. After stumbling through her prepared statement in which she denied any connection between autism and vaccines, Boyle stated the present incidence to be "12 in 10,000." Burton then stopped her cold by asking her one simple question:

Did she think it was a conflict of interest for the same people who were funded by the vaccine manufacturers to be on the advisory board making decisions about which vaccines should be given to American children?

Boyle was dumfounded and speechless. Burton repeated the question. Still no answer. Boyle's mute portrayal of the career bureaucrat spoke volumes.

Equally inept and ill-prepared was Deborah Hirtz, MD, representing the National Institutes of Health. Losing her place in her written statement, Hirtz forgot what she was saying, and it seemed obvious she had not written it. Finally, she just barely managed to put across what she was sent there to say - that there could be no connection between vaccines and autism, but that the NIH was "looking into it."

The NIH has already spent some $40 million per year of taxpayer money "looking into it." (Hirtz) Their answer: It needs further study. The performance of these representatives from the two government agencies who have almost sovereign power in the area of vaccines was frightening - their indifference; lack of information; condescension; and low level of intelligence.

They gave no sign of having understood one word of the critically important breakthrough research that had just been so brilliantly expounded by Drs. Megson, O'Leary, and Wakefield. This is what power looks like - people who have been in their position so long that they know they don't have to justify themselves to anyone lower down on the food chain.

Government agencies have the same answer to every problem: more committees; more money; more study; and more meetings. Meanwhile, 22 years have gone by, and all these people say is "we don't know."

After 22 years and $100 million, we don't know the incidence, the cause or the cure for autism. But we'll definitely "look into it." And, oh yes, it's definitely "not vaccines."

This is the thinking that passes as logic. The key point here that no one seems to be pointing out is that research should be done before mandating a vaccine into the bloodstream of American children! You don't just start mass-injecting something into a population and then stand back and defy independent scientists to prove it isn't safe! That's exactly what we've done here.

As a nation, as a government, and as parents, Americans should be very certain, beyond a reasonable doubt, that any substance being injected into an unformed little nervous system is absolutely safe and does no harm. That should be the minimum requirement.

Drs. Wakefield, O'Leary, and Megson have shown startling results from some of the only scientific research on autism and vaccines in the entire world that has not been funded by the vaccine manufacturers. This research also shows a high likelihood that MMR and DPT vaccines may cause permanent intestinal destruction, liver damage, and autism. It presents a very plausible hypothesis for the horrific increase of autism since 1978. So, until we know for certain if they're right, why are the vaccines not suspended?