Healthcare Bill Passes!!!

Nippy wrote:

<quoted text>Where is the money the corporate thieves stole from hard working TAX PAYERS PENSIONS? Where is the money that Halburton overcharged the US Gov't for substandard materials (bullet proof vests) for our troops? The company that Dick Cheney was CEO of. How was Bush able to retire to a 25 million dollar home?
They ain't asking about that, now are they.

G.W. BUSH made alot of money in oil down in midland texas. his family had lots of money to begin with.
g.w. bush use to own the texas rangers baseball team.
he sold them and tripled his profit. g.w. bush is a successful buisnessman.

you negros love to hate people with money.
you act as if it's a crime in america to be rich.

: shakes head

"Today the Bureau of Labor and Statistics reported that despite all of the Obama administration’s job creation claims, unemployment has risen to 10.2%. Instead of focusing on job creation, the left in Congress continues to pursue other priorities like their $1.5 trillion health care plan which is partially financed by job killing employer mandates. See chart below:"

http://fixhealthcarepolicy.com/in-the-news/ho...

Fedup in Chicago wrote:

I have to call Lipinski's office to find out why he voted for the bill. He has always stated that any bill that benefits illegals he would not support. Liar! The people in his district will not vote him out because running against him in the democratic party is a mexican immigration reform supporter. I have to see where the republican candidate stands on important issues.

You can forget about it.

The Democrats in Chicago and Crook County are SO powerful with the backing of the unions that the Republicans stand no chance, even if unemployment hits 20 percent.

Who are the Republicans sending against union politician Jan Schakowsky? Some no name who has no experience or money. It's a joke.

In an event, NO DEMS IN 2010

Inisa Love wrote:

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Ok, with that being said, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? Other than "vote" someone out because the "vote" is NOT going to change the plight you are so worked up about?
What's your other plan? Seriously. I would like to hear some concrete solutions. I doubt I will because non of you have any concrete solutions that are going to better your existence in this country. You allowed things to go on for over 15 years. Now what?
Vote?

Seriously? Ok then.

It goes above and beyond voting.

It boils down to the Constitution. Nothing more, nothing less.

Use your Constitutional rights.

Did your Congressman/Congresswoman vote for the health care bill?

Here is the list of those who voted 'Aye":
Vote these stinking socialist bums out.

Abercrombie
Ackerman
Andrews
Arcuri
Baca
Baldwin
Bean
Becerra
Berkley
Berman
Berry
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Blumenauer
Boswell
Brady (PA)
Braley (IA)
Brown, Corrine
Butterfield
Cao
Capps
Capuano
Cardoza
Carnahan
Carney
Carson (IN)
Castor (FL)
Chu
Clarke
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cohen
Connolly (VA)
Conyers
Cooper
Costa
Costello
Courtney
Crowley
Cuellar
Cummings
Dahlkemper
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
DeFazio
DeGette
Delahunt
DeLauro
Dicks
Dingell
Doggett
Donnelly (IN)
Doyle
Driehaus
Edwards (MD)
Ellison
Ellsworth
Engel
Eshoo
Etheridge
Farr
Fattah
Filner
Foster
Frank (MA)
Fudge
Garamendi
Giffords
Gonzalez
Grayson
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Hall (NY)
Halvorson
Hare
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Heinrich
Higgins
Hill
Himes
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hirono
Hodes
Holt
Honda
Hoyer
Inslee
Israel
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Johnson (GA)
Johnson, E. B.
Kagen
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kennedy
Kildee
Kilpatrick (MI)
Kilroy
Kind
Kirkpatrick (AZ)
Klein (FL)
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lee (CA)
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
Loebsack
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Luján
Lynch
Maffei
Maloney
Markey (MA)
Matsui
McCarthy (NY)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
McNerney
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Michaud
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Mitchell
Mollohan
Moore (KS)
Moore (WI)
Moran (VA)
Murphy (CT)
Murphy, Patrick
Murtha
Nadler (NY)
Napolitano
Neal (MA)
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Owens
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor (AZ)
Payne
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Perriello
Peters
Pingree (ME)
Polis (CO)
Pomeroy
Price (NC)
Quigley
Rahall
Rangel
Reyes
Richardson
Rodriguez
Rothman (NJ)
Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Salazar
Sánchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sarbanes
Schakowsky
Schauer
Schiff
Schrader
Schwartz
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Sestak
Shea-Porter
Sherman
Sires
Slaughter
Smith (WA)
Snyder
Space
Speier
Spratt
Stark
Stupak
Sutton
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Titus
Tonko
Towns
Tsongas
Van Hollen
Velázquez
Visclosky
Walz
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watson
Watt
Waxman
Weiner
Welch
Wexler
Wilson (OH)
Woolsey
Wu
Yarmuth

OMG Registered wrote:

As long as the aliens aren't covered...

Yes illegals have to be covered we need to provide health care for all the people who are here.Obama needs to cover all the people.We need to pay for this, we need to raise taxes on all people making over $40,000.00 dollars a year. We need to redistribute the wealth.I work part time and cannot afford health care it is important that the government provide for me.I have been discriminated against me all my life.It's the white mans fault that I take drugs.It's the white mans fault I do not have a job and i didn't graduate school.

TEA wrote:

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Seriously? Ok then.
It goes above and beyond voting.
It boils down to the Constitution. Nothing more, nothing less.
Use your Constitutional rights.

Do you mind give me some specifics? The A to Z plan.

Seriously. Have you mapped it out at all? Other than voting folks out of office because that really isn't going to change a thing. Just going to lead you to something worse off than you think you are in now.

Nippy wrote:

<quoted text>LOL! You tell em Papi! The US is just them. They're not thinking of anyone else, no matter how much taxes you pay or wars you fight in. It's all about them! Just US is exactly the mindset.

Well, for starters, we have been American citizens, way longer than many Americans (since 1917) and many Americans' ancestors were arriving around that time (from Europe). And above all, it was the U.S. who came to us....in Puerto Rico. They invaded the Spanish province of P.R.

We did not migrate to the U.S.

So, it is about time that we have our couple of Senators and 6 reps. in the U.S. congress.

Jorge de P.Rico

Eighthman wrote:

Did your Congressman/Congresswoman vote for the health care bill?
Here is the list of those who voted 'Aye":
Vote these stinking socialist bums out.
Abercrombie
Ackerman
Andrews
Arcuri
Baca
Baldwin

You need to come up with another plan.

Inisa Love wrote:

Americans have cooperated with everything else. Why stop now? All that money that disappeared before Bush left office. Where is it now? Where is the money that disappeared out of people's bank accounts?
Where is paulson and what did he do with all that money? Its not sitting in the tax payers bank accounts?
They used scare tactics and the threat of marshall law to get that money.
AND everyone is complaining now?

What? Money disappeared when Bush was in office?

You're a kook.

BTW-this topic is NOT about Bush. It's about the Democrats trying to ram down our throats an unsustainable trillion dollar government healthcare public option.

Medicare is going bankrupt and rife with corruption. Americans are so deep in debt thanks to Obama and the Democrats wasteful and unproductive stimulus bill that our unborn grandchildren owe money.

And the dems want more government spending and programs.

Tell me, when you lose a job or less money is coming in, do you go out and splurge and max out your credit card or do you cut back on spending?

No Dems in 2010

jimmy wrote:

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G.W. BUSH made alot of money in oil down in midland texas. his family had lots of money to begin with.
g.w. bush use to own the texas rangers baseball team.
he sold them and tripled his profit. g.w. bush is a successful buisnessman.
you negros love to hate people with money.
you act as if it's a crime in america to be rich.
: shakes head

Jimmy, you really need to read up on the Bush family before commenting. Did you know grandfather, Prescott Bush was almost tried for treason? Why? Trading arms to Germany while we were at war. They made him give all the money back and he retired in disgrace. Duba never earned a penny of his own money. His father's friends were his backers for political influence and even with all this help, he was a failure. Do you know why his father kicked his ass one night? No you don't! Do you know who loaned him the money to get his 1st oil company, Arbusto off the ground? Try the Saudi Royal Family.

I don't love to hate anybody. I read and don't watch Faux News. I watch the BBC and CSpan and the internet to get my sources.

George Bush is a scavenger, he's always made money off of other people's money and in fact, he wasn't even the real president, DICK CHENEY was.

Read up Jimmy before assuming you know what someone's opinion is and how they arrived at it.

Thanks! and I bid you good night.

Mike wrote:

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What happen with America under George Bush? Don't seem that America has experience all that much success in the last 8 years.
Because of the George Bush and the crooked Congress the last 8 years the Euro within the next year will be the reserve currency of the World.
If it wasn't for the Chinese having so many investments in America the Euro would replace the USD now but for the value of the Chinese Real Estate owned in America and their investments in American Bonds.
What industry is has Bush and the Crooked Republicans left in America to sustain Americans?
You've destroyed yourselves.

Another liberal nut job.

Still blaming Bush?

The primary reason for the economic meltdown was Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac ignored warnings from Greenspan and (gulp) President Bush that the mortgage lending was too easy and going out to people who could not pay back. Remember, in 2006, Barney FFFFFFrank and Chris Dodd said everything was hunky dory and that the Republicans were trying to prevent poor people from owning a piece of the American dream.

Remember, the Democrats took control in 2006 about the same time the economy began to tank. It wasn't Bush' fault. It was the Democrats fault.

Now, the Democrat and Obama are growing government and spending like drunken salors in the middle of a severe recession.

No Dems in 2010

Jorge wrote:

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Well, for starters, we have been American citizens, way longer than many Americans (since 1917) and many Americans' ancestors were arriving around that time (from Europe). And above all, it was the U.S. who came to us....in Puerto Rico. They invaded the Spanish province of P.R.
We did not migrate to the U.S.
So, it is about time that we have our couple of Senators and 6 reps. in the U.S. congress.
Jorge de P.Rico

I agree, but as Jimmy stated (and I hate to agree with Jimmy) the majority of Puerto Ricans turned down statehood. My memory is a little fuzzy on this, but wasn't there some type of bombing of the capital (US) by Puerto Rican's against statehood? If memory serves me correctly, they are still in prison. So as Jimmy stated, it's an issue that has to first worked out by the people of Puerto Rico and the US cannot intervene in that. It has to be volunatary. As it stands, Puerto Ricans enjoy all the priviledges of US citizenship save voting in the Presidential election, if I am correct.

TEA wrote:

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It's NOT my responsibility to pay for healthcare for OTHER people. If OTHER people want healthcare let THEM pay for it THEMSELVES.
It is SELFISH to expect/demand OTHER people pay for someone else's healthcare. It is SELFISH to take someone else's hard earned money.
Time to take responsibility for YOURSELF. Don't expect/demand OTHER people support YOU or YOUR needs. Do it YOURSELF.

amen to that.
these liberal s.o.b's want us to pay their healthcare.
pay your own gawd damn healthcare.

thank gawd we still have the senate to block this socialist gang in office. the movement is already on to oust many democratic congress members next year.
they just hung themselves last night.

*smiles*

And in answer to your question, yes, you should have more representation in the senate and congress because you are tax payers and serve in the military. I don't know how that can be accomplished other than your government pushing for it.

Dude wrote:

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lol I was thinking the same thing. I have friends who are in the medical field. I have heard so many ridiculous stories. Mothers calling 911 because her baby is crying. People calling 911 for minor injuries and other stupid stuff. And none of these people can't be turned away either.

Yeah, I've heard quite a few good ones too when we had to rush our two year old to the ER a couple years ago. They had just had a mother in there a few nights before claiming something was wrong with her kid. They ran all kinds of tests and found nothing wrong. However, the mother insisted they keep her child overnight. After telling her they couldn't admit the kid because they couldn't find anything wrong, the mother told them, "Well I have a date tonight and who's going to watch my kid!"

Great, this is the kind of crap we're going to have to pay for! I hope a bunch of you liberals die waiting for a doctor because they are all too busy dealing with crap like that to take care of people who are really sick!!

brianatruedem wrote:

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Yes illegals have to be covered we need to provide health care for all the people who are here.Obama needs to cover all the people.We need to pay for this, we need to raise taxes on all people making over $40,000.00 dollars a year. We need to redistribute the wealth.I work part time and cannot afford health care it is important that the government provide for me.I have been discriminated against me all my life.It's the white mans fault that I take drugs.It's the white mans fault I do not have a job and i didn't graduate school.

You are being sarcastic right?

Barbie Bytch wrote:

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... As for myself I have my OWN healthcare.
I make good money. My parents make very good money. And I live in a very nice suburb(google Naperville, IL). Yet as an individual EVEN if it means MY tax dollars, I have no issue helping individuals who NEED the help.
.

Barb: you say, "everyone is extremely selfish and greedy" in this country. But then say that you are "making good money", as well as your parents, so you must be "greedy" too, no? I'm thinking you have a late-model vehicle, nice home or apt., nails done weekly, daily bath, good food daily, latest clothing styles (at least up-to-date), regular hair appointments, social activities, dating, restaurant trips, vacations, etc., etc. It's rather difficult to swallow your rhetric about your good samaritan ideals being applied to all while you are successfully employed with a steady income. While it's true that you may give to some of those "less fortunate" I don't see how you can throw stones if you are to any degree better off than the worst case homeless human out there.

Your Bulgarian friend should know more than most Americans that any "homeless" person in this country is certainly not nearly as disadvantaged as a "homeless" person in an eastern European country. Anyone in this country can find assistance in the form of food, shelter, and clothing just about anywhere near populated regions.

I think the main issue that most people have with the "homeless" is seeing so many who are able and fit (not paraplegic, or largely disabled) and still continue to seek a free living without working. Some continue to have children with no means of support. Some teenagers throw caution or common sense to the wind and decide to take risks of having children while they have no skills, plans, education. All these people most certainly have the knowledge of those risks, so there's absolutely no excusing them. Do the math of these people bringing more people into the world and allowing the pattern to continue, and you get a welfare state where no one has initiative. Are the ones left with initiative responsible? Why? You want to punish the successful and reward the not-caring? I'm befuddled.

You say, "There is something wrong in a country where there are people making millions of dollars and on the same end individuals barely making it." No, there is nothing wrong with that concept. The world, no matter where you are, will be that way. There will always be the folks with initiative and drive and responsibility, and then there will always be those who decide on being lazy and irresponsible. It's a fact. Sorry, but your utopian dream is exactly that - a dream.

You say, "And after seeing how so many Americans have lost jobs, income, homes, dignity..." Good times come and go, and bad times come and go. We all go through some hardships at times. If I lost my job, home, income, or anything else, I certainly would NOT lose my dignity. If someone else loses his dignity, then that's his problem. I can go anywhere and survive, and I'm no one special, just think that I'm responsible for myself. I see "Help Wanted" signs everywhere, you just have to go do it. Remember, I'm not different than anyone, other than I don't expect you (or anyone else) to support me.

Remember to do as you prescribe and give all your accumulated earnings to those less fortunate. Yes, that means all, and not just a paltry few bucks. You should not be living the good life as long as a single irresponsible person is living anything less.

Nippy wrote:

<quoted text>Jimmy, you really need to read up on the Bush family before commenting. Did you know grandfather, Prescott Bush was almost tried for treason? Why? Trading arms to Germany while we were at war. They made him give all the money back and he retired in disgrace. Duba never earned a penny of his own money. His father's friends were his backers for political influence and even with all this help, he was a failure. Do you know why his father kicked his ass one night? No you don't! Do you know who loaned him the money to get his 1st oil company, Arbusto off the ground? Try the Saudi Royal Family.
I don't love to hate anybody. I read and don't watch Faux News. I watch the BBC and CSpan and the internet to get my sources.
George Bush is a scavenger, he's always made money off of other people's money and in fact, he wasn't even the real president, DICK CHENEY was.
Read up Jimmy before assuming you know what someone's opinion is and how they arrived at it.
Thanks! and I bid you good night.

i'm not talking about his grandfather prescott bush.
g.w. is not corrupt, in fact you have no critera to back up your false claims of g.w. being corrupt.
nothing wrong with being friends with the saudi royal family.
AGAIN you are showing your dislike for people with money. that must be a typical negro trait.
let me remind you again,
IT'S NOT A CRIME IN AMERICA TO BE RICH !

: shakes head

Dude wrote:

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Many Americans are living paycheck to paycheck due to poor money management. It's a fact that Americans tend to live above their means as well. Buying things we want but don't necessarily need. For instance, during the whole clunker ordeal, many went out and purchased cars knowing they were on a limited budget. The solution is simple. The rich should stop being greedy, the middle class should cut back on their wants and the poor (the one's who are abusing the system) need to pick up their slack, so no one else has too. If each class was being responsible, this wouldn't be an issue. But once a class become irresponsible, everything is thrown outta whack. And like I said, the rich has been stealing for some time now. Anyone who pay taxes should not be struggling in this country. Either we are living above our means or our money is being abused somehow.

and its gubberments job to stop all that isn't it ?

what in the hell have you been listening to ?

you cannot make people wealthier by taking more of their money .

you do not make people wealthier by mandating that they pay and then fining them if they can't , our government is out of control, and thats provable simply by asking yourself one question .

who gave the people who work for us the power to punish us with fines for doing what they say to do ?

last time I looked it is supposed to be them doing what we tell them to do .