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Nov 8, 2009
 
Nobama4me wrote:
So, the same people that have bankrupted medicaire, medicaid and social security now want to control health care. How is this a good thing? Or is it racist to ask that question?
Actually those people responsible for bankrupting Medicare and other federal programs are your friends and neighbors who over charge the government for services and work schemes designed to loot the government. Fraud is so overwhelming in those programs it's impossible to catch everyone responsible for over charging the government as it's impossible to catch every tax cheat in America.

Rick Scott the founder of a orgainzaton called Conservatives for Patients Rights, a leading organizer of the protest against Heatlh Care Reform, Rick Scott is the ex CEO of a Medical Group, which the Justice Department took to court prosecuted for working a billing scheme which resulted in Stealing Billions from medicare care, his Corporation was fined at the time more than One Billion, since those convictions there have been a number of Insurance Companies and Prescription Companies found guilty of massive fraud involving Federal Health Care Programs.

It's not the government,however, I would not doubt there are a number of Congressmen and Government Officals involved with stealing from those Government Program. Greet is an American Value
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#260
Nov 8, 2009
 
Every day 3 Doctors in America are convicted for Medicare Fraud.
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TEA wrote:
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It's NOT my responsibility to pay for healthcare for OTHER people. If OTHER people want healthcare let THEM pay for it THEMSELVES.
It is SELFISH to expect/demand OTHER people pay for someone else's healthcare. It is SELFISH to take someone else's hard earned money.
Time to take responsibility for YOURSELF. Don't expect/demand OTHER people support YOU or YOUR needs. Do it YOURSELF.
It's not about responsibility, it's about HUMANITY. If you see someone starving on the streets--it isn't your responsibility to feed them, yet as ANOTHER human being it should BOTHER you that the person is starving and you should WANT to help.
The funny thing about this country, is that everyone is extremely selfish and greedy.
I had a friend from Bulgaria, state that the one thing she hated about America was the mere fact that Americans were so quick to judge a homeless person calling him "lazy, a leecher, no good,"etc--easily walking right pass him as if he were filth. In other countries it LOOKS BAD on the people, government, and the country as a whole when you allow your brother or sister to starve without offering them a blanket or food.
There is something wrong in a country where there are people making millions of dollars and on the same end individuals barely making it.
A recent study indicated that most Americans were living pay check to pay check. And that is an issue.
To many people aren't looking at the big picture. Everyone has been affected by the economy. EVERYONE(in some way, shape or form). And after seeing how so many Americans have lost jobs, income, homes, dignity, etc. WE still are NEGATIVELY judging others, unwilling to help and so forth. Yet we have no issue spending trillions of dollars on war and such. We'd rather spend our tax dollars on killing others than we would on helping each other and that is SAD.
As for myself I have my OWN healthcare.
I make good money. My parents make very good money. And I live in a very nice suburb(google Naperville, IL). Yet as an individual EVEN if it means MY tax dollars, I have no issue helping individuals who NEED the help.
There is a reason our economy got this way--pure GREED, selfishness, etc. And unfortunately many Americans still harbor this same attitude.
It's sickening.
And it's not just that, the pure hatred for any minority is evil as well.

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TEA wrote:
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It's NOT my responsibility to pay for healthcare for OTHER people. If OTHER people want healthcare let THEM pay for it THEMSELVES.
It is SELFISH to expect/demand OTHER people pay for someone else's healthcare. It is SELFISH to take someone else's hard earned money.
Time to take responsibility for YOURSELF. Don't expect/demand OTHER people support YOU or YOUR needs. Do it YOURSELF.
Sorry Tea,
Apparently there is someone on this thread whose sole purpose in life at this moment is to "judge" us. So, anytime someone types the words: responsible, budget, income vs. bills, etc.'ye shall be judged "clueless/nuts/off topic/etc."
Hey, I made Daniel Boone Southern Chicken and Potato Puffs for dinner tonight. Someone else made Chicken Fingers and Corn. What did you make???
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@Barbie Bytch - So your answer is to force people to give? That's stupid. Do you know the situation of every single American? You automatically assume they have the resources to give? I have no problem helping people out... I love to help people... force me to help someone though and I'm gonna end up hating those people.

You said "A recent study indicated that most Americans were living pay check to pay check. And that is an issue. " yet you're all for forcing more money out of them? I know there are a lot of people stupid enough to believe that only the rich are gonna be footing the bill for this... too bad it isn't anywhere close to the truth.

You clowns in your Utopian stupor have just done far more damage to the "paycheck to paycheck" families than you could ever imagine. Not to mention that you've just given the government full blown rights over what is healthy for us and what is not. If you can't see the complete ignorance in that act alone then there is no hope for you and you should be put into a straight jacket with the rest of the demonicrats.
Sass a Frass

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#265
Nov 8, 2009
 
ray wrote:
good, i do not trust obama, he seems like socialest. i am sure america will be really upset with the house members.
( old people ) gray panthers must be going nuts. this bill cuts into medicare.
.....SEEMS LIKE A SOCIALIST!...... YA THINK? WHOA!
Sass a Frass

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Nov 8, 2009
 
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Sorry Tea,
Apparently there is someone on this thread whose sole purpose in life at this moment is to "judge" us. So, anytime someone types the words: responsible, budget, income vs. bills, etc.'ye shall be judged "clueless/nuts/off topic/etc."
Hey, I made Daniel Boone Southern Chicken and Potato Puffs for dinner tonight. Someone else made Chicken Fingers and Corn. What did you make???
Roasted possum and corn pone, with sweet tater pie for desert.
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Nov 8, 2009
 
gto wrote:
The big three enemies of America...democraps, mexicans and blacks.
OPSSS almost forgot the muslims!!

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Barbie Bytch wrote:
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It's not about responsibility, it's about HUMANITY. If you see someone starving on the streets--it isn't your responsibility to feed them, yet as ANOTHER human being it should BOTHER you that the person is starving and you should WANT to help.
The funny thing about this country, is that everyone is extremely selfish and greedy.
I had a friend from Bulgaria, state that the one thing she hated about America was the mere fact that Americans were so quick to judge a homeless person calling him "lazy, a leecher, no good,"etc--easily walking right pass him as if he were filth. In other countries it LOOKS BAD on the people, government, and the country as a whole when you allow your brother or sister to starve without offering them a blanket or food.
There is something wrong in a country where there are people making millions of dollars and on the same end individuals barely making it.
A recent study indicated that most Americans were living pay check to pay check. And that is an issue.
To many people aren't looking at the big picture. Everyone has been affected by the economy. EVERYONE(in some way, shape or form). And after seeing how so many Americans have lost jobs, income, homes, dignity, etc. WE still are NEGATIVELY judging others, unwilling to help and so forth. Yet we have no issue spending trillions of dollars on war and such. We'd rather spend our tax dollars on killing others than we would on helping each other and that is SAD.
As for myself I have my OWN healthcare.
I make good money. My parents make very good money. And I live in a very nice suburb(google Naperville, IL). Yet as an individual EVEN if it means MY tax dollars, I have no issue helping individuals who NEED the help.
There is a reason our economy got this way--pure GREED, selfishness, etc. And unfortunately many Americans still harbor this same attitude.
It's sickening.
And it's not just that, the pure hatred for any minority is evil as well.
Barbie, I LIKE you. You have a honest and good heart. I happen to live paycheck to paycheck. Frankly, I have incurred some NSF fees from the bank because my paycheck didn't post in time lol.(not really laughing-but hey it's all good.)
Through time, what I have seen is this. If you give too much, it becomes an expectation. An expectation for someone else to save your butt. I just posted prayers and well wishes for Louisianna regarding the possible/expected Hurricane coming their way. I'm a single mom of 3.(was married) Each child is a blessing from God. Wait, this makes me think of a story I heard.
A man was fishing beside a lake below a dam.
A man came along and told him-there is a major storm further upstream. You should leave this place.
The fisherman replied "I will trust in the Lord"
Later, as the water began rising and it started to sprinkle, a rowboat came along. Said the people in the boat "we will take you to safety-the dam is not safe"
The fisherman replied "I will trust in the Lord"
Very soon, the dam broke. The Valley was flooded. The fisherman clung to a tree while still holding his fishing rod.
Along came a helicopter. Well, you know what happened.
So here is the fisherman at the gates of Heaven and guess what? He is pissed off! He comes before God and says "Lord I trusted you!"
God said "I sent you a warning. Then I sent you a boat. Then I sent you a helicopter. What more do you want???"

Sometimes you just have to either sink or swim.
Sass a Frass

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Nov 8, 2009
 
C Watson wrote:
@Barbie Bytch - So your answer is to force people to give? That's stupid. Do you know the situation of every single American? You automatically assume they have the resources to give? I have no problem helping people out... I love to help people... force me to help someone though and I'm gonna end up hating those people.
You said "A recent study indicated that most Americans were living pay check to pay check. And that is an issue. " yet you're all for forcing more money out of them? I know there are a lot of people stupid enough to believe that only the rich are gonna be footing the bill for this... too bad it isn't anywhere close to the truth.
You clowns in your Utopian stupor have just done far more damage to the "paycheck to paycheck" families than you could ever imagine. Not to mention that you've just given the government full blown rights over what is healthy for us and what is not. If you can't see the complete ignorance in that act alone then there is no hope for you and you should be put into a straight jacket with the rest of the demonicrats.
Well they have tried and are trying to throw the door wide open to illeagals. Bring us down to third world status. Hey O Bammer do ya know that communisum has failed over and over again.Guess not.
TEA

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Nov 8, 2009
 
laughingiris wrote:
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Sorry Tea,
Apparently there is someone on this thread whose sole purpose in life at this moment is to "judge" us. So, anytime someone types the words: responsible, budget, income vs. bills, etc.'ye shall be judged "clueless/nuts/off topic/etc."
Hey, I made Daniel Boone Southern Chicken and Potato Puffs for dinner tonight. Someone else made Chicken Fingers and Corn. What did you make???
It's really un-American to expect/demand someone else pay their bills. They are no more than thieves, they are stealing and taking what does not belong to them.

BBQ, baked beans, slaw and potato salad.

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Nov 8, 2009
 
Sass a Frass wrote:
<quoted text> Roasted possum and corn pone, with sweet tater pie for desert.
LOL!!!!
Hey, don't knock it till you try it! With all the money going "out" you just might have to eat that.

{had opossum as a little girl, didn't care for it. As for corn pone and sweet tater pie? Yummm. I'm "Northern" too, but still good is good.}:)
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Barbie Bytch wrote:
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It's not about responsibility, it's about HUMANITY. If you see someone starving on the streets--it isn't your responsibility to feed them, yet as ANOTHER human being it should BOTHER you that the person is starving and you should WANT to help.
The funny thing about this country, is that everyone is extremely selfish and greedy.
I had a friend from Bulgaria, state that the one thing she hated about America was the mere fact that Americans were so quick to judge a homeless person calling him "lazy, a leecher, no good,"etc--easily walking right pass him as if he were filth. In other countries it LOOKS BAD on the people, government, and the country as a whole when you allow your brother or sister to starve without offering them a blanket or food.
There is something wrong in a country where there are people making millions of dollars and on the same end individuals barely making it.
A recent study indicated that most Americans were living pay check to pay check. And that is an issue.
To many people aren't looking at the big picture. Everyone has been affected by the economy. EVERYONE(in some way, shape or form). And after seeing how so many Americans have lost jobs, income, homes, dignity, etc. WE still are NEGATIVELY judging others, unwilling to help and so forth. Yet we have no issue spending trillions of dollars on war and such. We'd rather spend our tax dollars on killing others than we would on helping each other and that is SAD.
As for myself I have my OWN healthcare.
I make good money. My parents make very good money. And I live in a very nice suburb(google Naperville, IL). Yet as an individual EVEN if it means MY tax dollars, I have no issue helping individuals who NEED the help.
There is a reason our economy got this way--pure GREED, selfishness, etc. And unfortunately many Americans still harbor this same attitude.
It's sickening.
And it's not just that, the pure hatred for any minority is evil as well.
How much of your desposable income did you give to the poor last year? Should'a been 95%.
Sinajuavi

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#273
Nov 8, 2009
 
Conservative madness, "Reaganomics", etc., has drastically failed... not only in the 1920's, but again 1981-2008. These corporate asskissers have done nothing but give away the store to the rich and powerful! What sort of vile traitorous SELLOUTS are the goddam Republicans?

And look at the cretins who vote for them. Seriously demented sociopathic folks!

“l'enfer, c'est les autres”

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Nov 8, 2009
 
Shut Your Pie Hole wrote:
I do have a problem with these idiots when they harass Black people on sites meant for Black to congregate online and talk about Black issues.
Well, shut my mouf! I had NO idea, as I said...yo, this heah Topix is jest fo black peoples?
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Barbie Bytch wrote:
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It's not about responsibility, it's about HUMANITY. If you see someone starving on the streets--it isn't your responsibility to feed them, yet as ANOTHER human being it should BOTHER you that the person is starving and you should WANT to help.
I agree with you that it everyone SHOULD help (I donate money & time to charities every month), but not everyone should BE FORCED to help. If I see someone starving on the streets, I have every right to give him money, food, etc. But I DO NOT have the right, to take YOUR money and give it to him. That should be your choice. Yet, when you mandate this help via the government you are forcing people to do things. Again, I agree that people should be more active in charities and their communities. They just shouldn't be forced to do it.

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C Watson wrote:
Not to mention that you've just given the government full blown rights over what is healthy for us and what is not. If you can't see the complete ignorance in that act alone then there is no hope for you and you should be put into a straight jacket with the rest of the demonicrats.
YEAH, who in the world would put their health in the hands of for-profit organization, like the Insurance companies?

I deal with these maggots on a daily basis, they are a bunch of morons who want to find any excuse to opt out of their obligations, especially when it comes to medication coverage.

And let me tell you, at least we can throwout our elected officials every few years.
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Barbie Bytch wrote:
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It's not about responsibility, it's about HUMANITY. If you see someone starving on the streets--it isn't your responsibility to feed them, yet as ANOTHER human being it should BOTHER you that the person is starving and you should WANT to help.
The funny thing about this country, is that everyone is extremely selfish and greedy.
I had a friend from Bulgaria, state that the one thing she hated about America was the mere fact that Americans were so quick to judge a homeless person calling him "lazy, a leecher, no good,"etc--easily walking right pass him as if he were filth. In other countries it LOOKS BAD on the people, government, and the country as a whole when you allow your brother or sister to starve without offering them a blanket or food.
There is something wrong in a country where there are people making millions of dollars and on the same end individuals barely making it.
A recent study indicated that most Americans were living pay check to pay check. And that is an issue.
To many people aren't looking at the big picture. Everyone has been affected by the economy. EVERYONE(in some way, shape or form). And after seeing how so many Americans have lost jobs, income, homes, dignity, etc. WE still are NEGATIVELY judging others, unwilling to help and so forth. Yet we have no issue spending trillions of dollars on war and such. We'd rather spend our tax dollars on killing others than we would on helping each other and that is SAD.
As for myself I have my OWN healthcare.
I make good money. My parents make very good money. And I live in a very nice suburb(google Naperville, IL). Yet as an individual EVEN if it means MY tax dollars, I have no issue helping individuals who NEED the help.
There is a reason our economy got this way--pure GREED, selfishness, etc. And unfortunately many Americans still harbor this same attitude.
It's sickening.
And it's not just that, the pure hatred for any minority is evil as well.
No, it's about RESPONSIBILITY.

It's about being self-sufficient and paying your own way.

It's about being an American and NOT expecting others/strangers to pay your bills.

It's about putting your priorities in order and not overextending yourself for things you want.

Being forced to give away what you worked for is un-American.

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TEA wrote:
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It's really un-American to expect/demand someone else pay their bills. They are no more than thieves, they are stealing and taking what does not belong to them.
BBQ, baked beans, slaw and potato salad.
Yet, since the "New Deal" days of FDR society has shifted it's focus from Church/Lady Societies/Village-Town Charities (aka local) to Gov't responsibility for those struggling. When you lose the "local" part of things, you lose the accountablity of where your gift baskets go. So then we throw in generations of people who do NOT graduate from High School. Do NOT pursue College. Do NOT take the consequences of their own actions. So it is up to 'Big Brother' to tend/care for/ bail out....

Dang, BBQ??? I should have done that. It was a gorgeous day here in Michigan. I love cole slaw.
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