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Grassley Tells Constituent if He Wants Affordable Insurance, "Go Work for the Government"

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Konnecticut Better Yet

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Jul 6, 2009
 
Sigh wrote:
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Hahahah! You made me choke on my baguette and spit up my espresso. I've got news for you pal, you most certainly do not have the best health system in the world. Keep on believing that; that's why the rest of the world thinks the US is on the decline. WTF is up with you people thinking you always have to be the best at everything?
Believe me, if you people had the system there that we have here, you'd cry if you had to go back to the good old American way.
I'm very disappointed by the attitudes on this board. I never would have guessed that you're such a hate-filled people.
Ummm...yes we do have the best system. That's why people from all corners of the globe come her for procedures, France included. And that's why your economy is on the verge of collapse--not the recession, but socialism. Canada and England are trying to find a way to overhaul their systems before they go bankrupt too.

Everyone I talk to from europe always say those who can afford it, get their own private plans rather than use the mediocre/ inefficient/ substandard government system.

All the U.S. needs is tort reform, as G. Bush Sr. wanted.

Of course, the "progressives' give us the usual "that-won't-be-enough--we -need-to-do-more" routine, like everything else they're trying to push. ANd as usual, they can't speak to the numbers or any facts--just the usual bizarre-o rhetoric.
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#146
Jul 6, 2009
 
Konnecticut Better Yet wrote:
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Ummm...yes we do have the best system. That's why people from all corners of the globe come her for procedures, France included. And that's why your economy is on the verge of collapse--not the recession, but socialism. Canada and England are trying to find a way to overhaul their systems before they go bankrupt too.
Everyone I talk to from europe always say those who can afford it, get their own private plans rather than use the mediocre/ inefficient/ substandard government system.
All the U.S. needs is tort reform, as G. Bush Sr. wanted.
Of course, the "progressives' give us the usual "that-won't-be-enough--we -need-to-do-more" routine, like everything else they're trying to push. ANd as usual, they can't speak to the numbers or any facts--just the usual bizarre-o rhetoric.
its amazing how a person from a broke nation ..that caused other nations to struggle because of americas finacial products they sold oversees speaks of other nations being broke ..you got a lot of nerve with 47 million uninsured and number 38 according to the world health organization ...and borrowing your whole bubble economy from china since years ....whom is comming to america for treatment ..farah fawcett tried germany after your hospitals f.u.c.k.e.d her health up ...100000 americans die every year needlessly from no health care or denied treatment.....no one comes to america for treatment but mexicans and africans ....you are 20 years behind in hospitals you dont even have medical records electronically.....you shovle your poor to the government ....so the rich can continue to line their pockets ...its americans that surface in europe and asia to get the newest treatments not the other way around ....
Telling Secrets

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#147
Jul 6, 2009
 
If the guy wants health insurance of the highest quality he is welcome to pay for it. That's how things work, you work and pay for something you want. Nothing is free. Tell a damn democrat or liberal this and they cry like babies! Can anyone imagine what they will do if public health care becomes a choice in America? They will be the first to crap about not getting what they want.
Go talk to Canada, they will fill you in on this atrocity!
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#148
Jul 6, 2009
 
I'm a very simple person so I need some help on this. If you can afford good insurance, you do and pay for it. If you can not (afford it), the government will offer something afordable that is paid for by those who pay taxes (and also pay for thier private insurance). So those who can afford it will buy it and also pay for those who can't. I can't see how this will regulate either the health care or the private insurance. It sounds like the middle class is being asked to pick up the cost of health care for those who can't afford it.
Why can't we focus efforts on finding out how to control skyrocketing health care expenses and get to the point?

Since: Feb 07

Lancaster, PA

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#149
Jul 6, 2009
 
What does the Congressional Healthcare package cost per family, to the American People?
pulmonary cripple

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Jul 6, 2009
 
Leftist Distortion wrote:
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Then you should be able to trace the screwing up of our nation back to it's beginning with Democrat Woodrow Wilson...then forward to FDR...to LBJ and the modern welfare state...to Obama.
For almost 100 years Democrats have been making the same promises - and spent trillions of dollars to make America "better" - but it has only gotten worse.
wow, you sure are a moron. things were better ... in 1909? LOL! get off the internet son, you can't handle it.
pulmonary cripple

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#151
Jul 6, 2009
 
RayOne wrote:
What does the Congressional Healthcare package cost per family, to the American People?
who cares.
the hoser

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is this the same moron who think ethonal is a good deal

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America's health care system isn't healthy, they don't care, and it's not a system.
maria

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Jul 6, 2009
 
the hoser wrote:
is this the same moron who think ethonal is a good deal
ethanol....and what would you suggest...keep buying iol from gangsters ...and we cant afford buying it any longer ..people dont want our dollar they want euros ...so what are we going to do ........pay 10 bucks for gas .....

Since: Oct 07

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RayOne wrote:
What does the Congressional Healthcare package cost per family, to the American People?
A hell of a lot less than the tax cuts on the richest one percent did and will! Infinitely less than the criminal enterprise called the pentagon. Less than the the exercise in suicidal stupidity called the War on Drugs. In fact, I'd wager that the amount, per family is nearly imperceptible.
I don't think the Senator's remark was casual or in any way a joke. I think the remark illustrates Grassley's callous disregard for the uninsured. I say this in part due to an incident that occurred several years ago when we were on a family trip to DC. Our son was fighting cancer at the time.(We have great coverage, by the way. We're lucky.) He'd finished chemo and had a break before starting radiation, so we took a trip.(With Dr's permission and a truckload of meds.)
We toured the capital and since my wife had testified and worked on legislation and had been nationally published in her field, she knew some folks. So we met several Senators and Reps that day. All were gracious and friendly and they all treated our bald headed son with great warmth. Except Grassley. He was rude, brusque. Condescending to our son.(The kid was sick, not stupid!) When my wife mentioned the need for affordable health care,(this was in 1990-92) he became downright hostile and terminated the meeting by saying, "I don't have time for this."
He's a phoney. He has a folksy image that's about as genuine as the props on HeeHaw. He's just another career politician.
If I lived in Iowa, I'd support anyone of either party who opposed Grassley. He's a dinosaur.
pragmaticprog

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#156
Jul 6, 2009
 
Blame it on Reagan's "11th Commandment" (from Gaylord Parkinson, the State GOP leader way back then: Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican).

The Republicans need to drop this commandment, pronto. They are falling apart because of a mindset which they attribute to liberals: relativism. The current de facto Republican corollary to the 11th Commandment is that every Republican is as good as any other Republican. This is a mindset that will shrink the party to a collection of grumpy white guys (some of whom have some serious skeletons in the old closet).

On the other hand, God speed!
larry g

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#157
Jul 6, 2009
 
carey529 wrote:
do the democrats in congress NOT have the same health care grassley has?
i see the "stop petty partisan bickering" only applies when it benefits you.
do you idiots think the democrats will give that up and hop on the universal care coverage they're trying to shove down the peoples throats?
apparently, some of you idiots do ... whadda surprise!
i am amazed at how dumb republi cans have become
lily boca raton fl

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Jul 6, 2009
 
Oregon Is Disgusting wrote:
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Who provides them the choice of providers, Chucky Cheese?
They are part of the pool of employees that are employed by, amazingly, us. Why in the world should our employees receive much better health insurance coverage than the employers?
That's not the capitalist way is it.
I think everyone should write to his/her congressman and senator and tell them that. You are our employee, we elected you, we pay for your health insurance and if you vote against health insurance for us, you're fired.
John T

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Jul 6, 2009
 
Preston2 wrote:
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Nobody wants "government run healthcare", that's just a rightwing strawman. People just want a public option that competes against private insurers. Competition lowers prices.
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Another strawman.
If the 'public option' was run using absolutely no subsidies then I would not be opposed to it. But as soon as it receives public subsidies it has an unfair competitive advantage over private insurers. It could offer lower premiums and muscle out private insurers because the real costs of the public option would be hidden.
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#160
Jul 6, 2009
 
I sure hope all the stupid Republican conservatives posting here love to spend your time doing it. From your responses you must love to spend your time whining about Obama rather than looking at the dummies at the head of your party drinking the koolaid. You have another seven and a half years to wait for a realalistic chance to govern but look so far like a deer in the headlights. I kind of enjoy seeing you chew each other up and look foolish.
larry g

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doomster wrote:
I sure hope all the stupid Republican conservatives posting here love to spend your time doing it. From your responses you must love to spend your time whining about Obama rather than looking at the dummies at the head of your party drinking the koolaid. You have another seven and a half years to wait for a realalistic chance to govern but look so far like a deer in the headlights. I kind of enjoy seeing you chew each other up and look foolish.
the republicans are a bad reality show
Beware

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#162
Jul 6, 2009
 
OneRyder wrote:
Repubs have been their won worst enemy over the last 8 years.
Just remember...every Democrat and Indepoendent in Congress has the same f'n health and retirement plan...None of them are immune from scrutiny.
Beware

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Jul 6, 2009
 
doomster wrote:
I sure hope all the stupid Republican conservatives posting here love to spend your time doing it. From your responses you must love to spend your time whining about Obama rather than looking at the dummies at the head of your party drinking the koolaid. You have another seven and a half years to wait for a realalistic chance to govern but look so far like a deer in the headlights. I kind of enjoy seeing you chew each other up and look foolish.
If there's anything left...I can't see even one iota of fiscal constraint/conservatism within the reigning party...and I'm an Independent fiscal conservative (and don't come back at me with any right-wing religious s%^t...it isn't going to fly).

Whining about Obama? Hey...he, and the far left-wing faction are the one serving the kool-aid and who's lapping it up? Definitely not fiscal conservatives.
larry g

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If there's anything left...I can't see even one iota of fiscal constraint/conservatism within the reigning party...and I'm an Independent fiscal conservative (and don't come back at me with any right-wing religious s%^t...it isn't going to fly).
Whining about Obama? Hey...he, and the far left-wing faction are the one serving the kool-aid and who's lapping it up? Definitely not fiscal conservatives.
you voted for bush rtwice , didn't you
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