Grassley Tells Constituent if He Wants Affordable Insurance, "Go Work for the Government"

or maybe they are just being nice, because theyknow he is going to retire, and want to make him feel better. not a good idea to encourage him! glad he came to his senses so quickly!

maria wrote:

<quoted text>its latin not spanish its alea jata est ...sorry ..you dont know latin

I would rather know to put apostrophe in don't than to know a few words of a dead language.

Temet nosce

Leftist Distortion wrote:

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I would rather know to put apostrophe in don't than to know a few words of a dead language.
Temet nosce

you are a f.o.ol.

maria wrote:

<quoted text>you are a f.o.ol.

ROFLMAO - F.O.OL.? You left out the period after the 2nd O - You can't even get that right.

You know, you only have yourself to blame for being what you accuse me of.

And while I understand your frustration of being unable to match wits with me, name calling is for children...and emotion driven Liberals. Have at it. It has no effect on me.

progressive wrote:

<quoted text> Can you document this a bit more? do you have an alternative chain group of more american alternatives to reommend? I do not shop at Walmart. I shop local, at small stores, and pay mroe gladly, to my friends, the town merchants and store clerks. It supports our entire lovely life-style in a nice little town. I go to the local Dollar Store sometimes, and to the second-hand store often. I go feed the cat outside the Dollar Store at times. that is the type of town and the type of store it is. They feed the cat too. Lucky cat! Bet that does not happen outside walmart!

You can google wal-marts use of government services to subsidize their business. It isn't just happenstance.

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Many Wal-Mart workers use Medicaid
Source: Amy Worden INQUIRER HARRISBURG BUREAU
Of Pennsylvania's 10 largest employers, Wal-Mart has the highest percentage of employees enrolled in the state medical assistance program for the poor and disabled.

About one in six of Wal-Mart's 48,000 employees are enrolled in the Medicaid insurance program, at a total cost to the state of more than $15 million a year, according to state data.

The retailers with the second- and third-largest numbers of employees in the state, Giant Food Stores L.L.C. and Weis
Published on 2006-03-02, Page A01, Philadelphia Inquirer, The (PA)

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More than 3,100 Wal-Mart workers got state health aid

By Ralph Thomas

Seattle Times Olympia bureau

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OLYMPIA — More than 3,100 Wal-Mart employees in Washington were benefiting from state-subsidized health coverage throughout 2004 — nearly double the total for any other company, according to two confidential state reports.

That total is much higher than previously thought. And it indicates that as many as 20 percent of Wal-Mart's employees were getting taxpayer-funded health care for themselves or their dependents....

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localne...

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A November 2004 New York Times article cites a study in Georgia that found 10,000 children of Wal-Mart employees were in the state's healthcare program at a cost to taxpayers of $10 million a year. The same article describes a hospital in North Carolina that found that 31 percent of its 1,900 patients were Wal-Mart employees on Medicaid, and an additional 16 percent were Wal-Mart employees with no insurance at all. And in California, a study released in August 2004 by researchers at the University of California at Berkeley determined that the healthcare expenses of uninsured Wal-Mart employees were costing the already economically-strapped state $32 million a year in taxpayer funds. Wal-Mart has disputed findings that the company encourages its employees to apply for public assistance and called the California study "biased," noting that the researchers at Berkeley did not contact the company for facts and statistics.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows...

Costco is generally considered the blue state version of Wal-Mart. At least they appear to treat their employees well but they are still flogging lots of excess from overseas onto consumers who really don't need it.

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"An August 2004 University of California, Berkeley Labor Center study found that many Wal-Mart workers in California rely on government safety net programs such as food stamps, Medi-Cal (California's version of Medicaid) and subsidized housing at an estimated cost to taxpayers of $86 million annually--$32 million for health-related expenses and $54 million for other assistance.

Further, families of Wal-Mart employees utilize these services considerably more than the average for families with employees of all large retail companies. In fact, if other large retailers in California were to provide wages and benefits at Wal-Mart's level it would cost California taxpayers an additional $410 million in increased public assistance costs. According to the study..."

http://mediamatters.org/research/200505120009

Speculation is that Wal-Mart's backing of mandated health insurance is simply to try and destroy competitors like Target.

Wal-Mart isn't doing anything for anyone other than itself. That much is crystal clear.

maria wrote:

<quoted text>you are a f.o.ol.

PS - You're the multi-lingualist. What does Temet Nosce mean?

Leftist Distortion wrote:

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Except for the house visit, illegal immigrants get free treatment all the time. And they take ambulances to the hospital.
The socialist mindset of so many Californians has already impoverished that "progressive" state, but your type still thinks money grows on trees and Santa Claus will bring us what we want.

If France, that reviled state in the minds of all Republicans, for standing up to GW Bush's BS about weapons of mass destruction, can afford health care for all its citizens, as well as any visitors, why can't the almighty US of A? Please explain.

How can GM and any other corporation compete with companies that don't have all the expense of covering their employees as well as retirees. Or is it ok to screw the people that have worked for you for 15 or twenty years. I have a friend who just retired from a second job of 15 years, that's right two 15 year stints, and both times just before she retired, the company or county in the 2nd case, pulled her health benefits.

Welcome to America.

Leftist Distortion wrote:

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ROFLMAO - F.O.OL.? You left out the period after the 2nd O - You can't even get that right.
You know, you only have yourself to blame for being what you accuse me of.
And while I understand your frustration of being unable to match wits with me, name calling is for children...and emotion driven Liberals. Have at it. It has no effect on me.

milledgeville and wits is an oxymoron trust me on that you sorry demonseed

Leftist Distortion wrote:

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PS - You're the multi-lingualist. What does Temet Nosce mean?

know thyself ...you watchet the matrix and now you know greek..lol ...du bist nicht ganz normal...

Anybody that thinks the government can handle healthcare should visit a VA hospital....

So it sounds like a lot of people in here getting paid by the word.
NITFS
leftist distortion

Good to see progressive Lamoni, IA, still manning (get it) your keyboard.

I want the same health care my representatives get. We pay for it dont we?

new game: Spot the Typo

MLong wrote:

<quoted text> If France,...bullsh*t follows...that reviled state in the minds of all Republicans, for standing up to GW Bush's BS about weapons of mass destruction...end bullsh*t..., can afford health care for all its citizens, as well as any visitors, why can't the almighty US of A? Please explain.

Because we are friggin' broke. Watch the documentary: http://www.youtube.com/watch... - and pay special attention to the part between 9 and 11 minutes.

But it's really about much more than health care. Health care is just one of many scare tactics being used to create a society of helpless and dependent people.

We started off as a one-of-a-kind individualist free market Republic that allocated power to a diffused government. A government that was controlled by the people.

Our nation is being subverted to a collectvist, centrally planned government of concentrated power. A government that controls the people AND how much freedom they have.

What good is healthcare if you are murdered by your own government?
http://www.digitalsurvivors.com/archives/comm...

MLong wrote:

<quoted text> How can GM and any other corporation compete with companies that don't have all the expense of covering their employees as well as retirees. Or is it ok to screw the people that have worked for you for 15 or twenty years.

I'll ignore this hyperbolic, knee jerk reactionary bullsh*t.

MLong wrote:

<quoted text> I have a friend who just retired from a second job of 15 years, that's right two 15 year stints, and both times just before she retired, the company or county in the 2nd case, pulled her health benefits.
Welcome to America.

I have had a similiar experience as your friend.

If you don't like America, I will buy you a one-way ticket to the Socialist paradise called Zimbabwe.

Fat Bottom Girl wrote:

Anybody that thinks the government can handle healthcare should visit a VA hospital....

lol i visit militray hospitals all the time whats wrong with them they had electronical medical records since years ...tricare is a formidable thing ...i had cancer treatment for the thyroid ..excelent care infact they where more advanced than civilian hospitals i had a psvt removed with radiofrquency ablation....thats to trat an irregular heartbeat was done years ago no more problems ..tonsilectomy ..without a hitch despite my being a grown up when they came out ..no waiting times for any of the procedures...my cousin had breast cancer treatment militaray hospital ..at least as good as civilian hospital .....my son had tonsils removed as a child no problem ...when baby was sick promt treatment ...all meds free...and if you have a preexsisting condition like diabetis streamlined treatment from an edocrinologist not a general practitioner ...nooooo an endo ..in the civilian world you wait month to see an endo....you are a babble head ...and iam a nurse i would not utilize a civilian facility if my live dependet on it ......laughable....they have treatments for smokers if you want to quit they have treatment and classes for fat people if you want help from a nutritionist ...they have mental health care ...and you want a civilian hospital .....right

Fat Bottom Girl wrote:

Anybody that thinks the government can handle healthcare should visit a VA hospital....

Let's wait until the democrats put a budget in to fund it with doctors and nurses. We ALL know what Bush thought of veterans.

maria wrote:

<quoted text>know thyself ...you watchet the matrix

VERY GOOD. I posted that so we could end with you having a perfect post, but then you had to mis-spell watched. But I'll pretend I didn't see it.

maria wrote:

<quoted text>milledgeville and wits is an oxymoron trust me on that you sorry demonseed

I don't live in Milledgeville.

Fat Bottom Girl wrote:

Anybody that thinks the government can handle healthcare should visit a VA hospital....

The first reality check is going to be when all the new patients start lining up for our already over burdened medical system.

If the Liberals were 1/2 as samrt as they THINK they are, they would have started with a plan to increase the number of health care professionals and facilities.

I actually look forward to listening to the crying these government health care suckers are going to be doing when they realize they've been screwed.

OneRyder wrote:

Repubs have been their won worst enemy over the last 8 years.

And ours as well!