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Jan 19, 2008 | Posted by: roboblogger

Join the pack to be a non-smoker

Full story: The Abbotsford Times Newspaper

The Canadian Cancer Society, B.C. and Yukon Division, encourages British Columbians to speak out in support of initiatives that prevent youth from starting to smoke and protect children from second-hand smoke. via The Abbotsford Times Newspaper

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BEAN

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Jan 20, 2008
 

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As usual,its the guy who smokes,drives an Ole Gas guzzler,and drinks a six-pack,and hunts rabbits..It is he who gets screwed by the rich,liberal elitists,who want to run your life,while not being asked about theirs.That average "Joe" is the guy who fills the ranks in the military,does the country's dirty jobs,pays taxes,and just wants to be left alone.Its called Freedom.Now the star buck,"Green" rich,liberal elite,crowd ,who most of them ,are effeminate pencil neck geeks,or former Hippies,want to run our life's. Billary is part of that crew.Get Lost!!
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Jan 20, 2008
 
BEAN wrote:
As usual,its the guy who smokes,drives an Ole Gas guzzler,and drinks a six-pack,and hunts rabbits..It is he who gets screwed by the rich,liberal elitists,who want to run your life,while not being asked about theirs.That average "Joe" is the guy who fills the ranks in the military,does the country's dirty jobs,pays taxes,and just wants to be left alone.Its called Freedom.Now the star buck,"Green" rich,liberal elite,crowd ,who most of them ,are effeminate pencil neck geeks,or former Hippies,want to run our life's. Billary is part of that crew.Get Lost!!
Bean, haven't you figured out yet that everybody is not like you...poor bean just described itself. I hope things get better for you old bean, tsk tsk
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Remember almost 40% of cigarette smokers have some mental illnesss.
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Jan 20, 2008
 
I stand by your right to smoke, but I also stand by my right not to. And your right to smoke ends where my nose begins.......
Linda

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Jan 20, 2008
 
Brittany R wrote:
I stand by your right to smoke, but I also stand by my right not to. And your right to smoke ends where my nose begins.......
So keep your nose out of our smoke
Kent

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Remember, 100% of anti-smokers have some mental illnesss.

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Jan 20, 2008
 
just candid wrote:
Remember almost 40% of cigarette smokers have some mental illnesss.
That line is STILL just making you appear to be as lacking in intelligence as you are. The gift that keeps on giving...

You are helping those who want to put an end to smoking bans more than you know! Keep it up!

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Georgia..... unfortunately :(

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Jan 20, 2008
 
Brittany R wrote:
I stand by your right to smoke, but I also stand by my right not to. And your right to smoke ends where my nose begins.......
I fully agree that there should be places that do not allow it. So that you do not have to be exposed to ETS, should you choose not to be.

But at the same time there should be places that do. Because there are people who chose to do so. And they also have that right.

And then there is the majority of the population who doesn't care either way. I guess they are the easiest to please, LOL

Anyway other than that I think I agree. There should be places for both Smokers and Anti-Smokers to go to.


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Georgia..... unfortunately :(

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Jan 20, 2008
 
About the original thing, uh, take a look at who's name is on it?

The Canadian Cancer Society ;)


Need I say more?




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Jan 20, 2008
 
I would guit smoking if it wasnt for the brain operation to have half my brain removed, so I can be on the same intellectual level as the non smoking zealots.
Brittany R

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Jan 20, 2008
 
So if I shoot Heroin, and some accidently squirts in your eyes and causes you pain, would you still support my right to shoot Heroin? I agree that you have a right to smoke, but your habit impinges on others rights to breathe freely. I am allergic to smoke. I try to avoid areas where people smoke, but sometimes it's unavoidable. It's frustrating to try to get into a building, and all the smokers are hovering around the door puffing away, some gets in my lungs, and I have an asthma attack. I can't go into a bar where it's allowed, because of how smoke filled they are. So I just don't get to go. I choose not to smoke, but because you do, it makes many places I'd like to go uninhabitable for me. It should be the other way around. The people who's habit impinges on other's rights to breathe should have to smoke in a separate area.

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Jan 20, 2008
 
Brittany R wrote:
So if I shoot Heroin, and some accidently squirts in your eyes and causes you pain, would you still support my right to shoot Heroin?
(I support Drug Legalization, but that's a different topic for a different time...)

That's not the best analogy but basically it depends on who had the right to be there... If they were in your area, knowing that you were doing something like that, that would be a different story. It would become a matter of "choice" at that point.

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I agree that you have a right to smoke, but your habit impinges on others rights to breathe freely.
Well, as I stated previously, there should be both places you can, and places you can't.

Is that not 100% fair for EVERYBODY? Is it not?


[QUOTE who="Brittany R"]It's frustrating to try to get into a building, and all the smokers are hovering around the door puffing away...
There needs to be a ventilated room within the building that they can go, like there used to be. That would solve that problem.

But there will always be a chance that you might be around people smoking outdoors. The thing is, because it's OUTDOORS, it will usually be so diluted that it shouldn't be a problem.

Of course that's in the future. Right now there's all those people standing there smoking, yeah it might get pretty bad. But like I said, that's the reason. There should be a place or room within the building where they can go.

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I can't go into a bar where it's allowed, because of how smoke filled they are. So I just don't get to go. I choose not to smoke, but because you do, it makes many places I'd like to go uninhabitable for me. It should be the other way around. The people who's habit impinges on other's rights to breathe should have to smoke in a separate area.
Wait a minute. Why should that be the other way around? Just because you would "like to go". Do you really think that's fair, to FORCE your desires onto others? Do you think that's right?

Most people do not have a problem with ETS. I'm sorry you do (Sincerely, I'm sorry that you are alergic to ETS. And I understand how that must be.) But should people be allowed to just go in and tell others that THEY have to change for them? Is that right?

Or is the right thing to do, for you to choose not to go to those places?

If not, please do explain to me how that is. I can be wrong, and when I am I do desire to learn. And I always listen to others, including those who's beliefs oppose mine.

If what I describe is not completely fair for EVERYBODY, please do show me how it is not.

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Jan 20, 2008
 
Sorry, it messed up the "quote" things. And I can't edit it or nothing... It's readable though :)


And I also forgot to put the tag-line on it. Unfortunately this site doesn't do it built-in, so I just make my own :)



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Jan 21, 2008
 
Brittany R wrote:
So if I shoot Heroin, and some accidently squirts in your eyes and causes you pain, would you still support my right to shoot Heroin? I agree that you have a right to smoke, but your habit impinges on others rights to breathe freely. I am allergic to smoke. I try to avoid areas where people smoke, but sometimes it's unavoidable. It's frustrating to try to get into a building, and all the smokers are hovering around the door puffing away, some gets in my lungs, and I have an asthma attack. I can't go into a bar where it's allowed, because of how smoke filled they are. So I just don't get to go. I choose not to smoke, but because you do, it makes many places I'd like to go uninhabitable for me. It should be the other way around. The people who's habit impinges on other's rights to breathe should have to smoke in a separate area.
How POMPous, can you be? You think that the behaviors of people should accomodate YOU! Read what you said --- Smokers DO smoke in a separate area (you ever hear of smoking sections?)! And the only reason why you have to walk through a cloud of smoke to get into a building is because that is where the government has told them to smoke.
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Jan 21, 2008
 
It's these lovely differences in our points of view which add so much passionate flavor to the human societal stew, eh!

I truly can't understand why accommodation, understanding and RESPECT of the other is not by both sides.

Conflict is the baseline of human interactions.

Mostly it involves a strictly myopic view and intolerance.

The Americans have an attitude of "War on Drugs", "War on Terror" "War on everything" which denigrates rational compromise.

Compromise requires respect and a friendly, optimistic, inclusive attitude an openness, not found in religious societies which are usually closed orders openly against the other.

As a young Catholic we were taught that everyone else was wrong, and we were right absolutely.

I remember the nuns drilling that into me with a ruler. They tried very hard to close my mind, but then I found LSD.

I've been tobacco free for 13 years now and found it the most addictive drug that I've ever used, with absolutely no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

Today as I walk through clouds of smoke I thank the stars that I didn't give up trying to quit for more than a decade. I realize that the miniscule negative effect of some secondhand smoke is nothing compared to the pollution load which we swallow every second.

Just as non smokers wish to be free from tobacco smoke so do I wish to be free of vehicle exhaust.

We all have to put up with each others bad habits and try to make things better in a compromising way.

When someone cops an attitude about walking through a cloud of smoke, these people would cop an attitude about anything, because they are of the war on everything kind. Social bullies
Brittany R

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I would like to go to a bar and have a drink, but I can't, because of the smoke. I can't figure out why it's so hard to understand. If I was in a bar and chose to drink Southern Comfort, but couldn't stand Tequila, I would not be offended if you sat next to me drinking your Tequila. But, I WOULD be offended if your Tequila was able to enter my stomach without my permission. I fully stand by your right to enjoy your habit. But when your habit impedes on my body WITHOUT my permission, that's where the lines are drawn. Everyone is so concerned about their own rights, they forget that smoking is the one habit that affects others if you do it. I have nothing against people who chew tobacco, unless they spit it down my throat. When you smoke, it is forced into my lungs against my will. Do you see the difference? And a smoking section makes no difference, unless there it is a separate inclosure with a door. If it helps to understand, I'll tell you about my grandparents. My grandfather smoked his whole life, around everyone, with no regard for anyone elses health. My grandmother, the sweetest person you could ever know, never smoked. Yet she died of lung cancer, and the doctors said it was because of my grandpa's smoking. And my grandpa died of COPD. So I lost both my grandparents to smoking. I am a nurse, and see the effects of smoking every day. And I thank god that I never started, because I am healthy, and don't look as old as the people who are my age that do smoke. If you want to smoke, please do. But please don't kill the rest of because of your habit.
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Jan 21, 2008
 
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Jan 21, 2008
 
There is a simple solution to that, Brittany R, you take the bull by the horns (the bull being you) and limit your exposure to the guy with the spilly silly drink.

That's what I do. Work hard at changing the laws about smoking in a public place like a bar, but until then don't patronize that bar.

Don't you understand that it much more effective and less stressful to work on your own behavior then try to change anyone else's.

The hostility that you inject is not fair because you don't take into effect your own impact.

Do you drive a carbon producing machine?

Don't take a position of me against them, lets get together for the betterment of all.

Same, maybe better outcome, with a much smoother road.

Leave the depleated Uranium rounds at home.

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Brittany R wrote:
I would like to go to a bar and have a drink, but I can't, because of the smoke.... I can't figure out why it's so hard to understand. If I was in a bar and chose to drink Southern Comfort, but couldn't stand Tequila, I would not be offended if you sat next to me drinking your Tequila. But, I WOULD be offended if your Tequila was able to enter my stomach without my permission.... But when your habit impedes on my body WITHOUT my permission, that's where the lines are drawn. Everyone is so concerned about their own rights, they forget that smoking is the one habit that affects others if you do it. I have nothing against people who chew tobacco, unless they spit it down my throat. When you smoke, it is forced into my lungs against my will. Do you see the difference? And a smoking section makes no difference, unless there it is a separate inclosure with a door. If it helps to understand, I'll tell you about my grandparents. My grandfather smoked his whole life, around everyone, with no regard for anyone elses health. My grandmother, the sweetest person you could ever know, never smoked. Yet she died of lung cancer, and the doctors said it was because of my grandpa's smoking. And my grandpa died of COPD. So I lost both my grandparents to smoking. I am a nurse, and see the effects of smoking every day. And I thank god that I never started, because I am healthy, and don't look as old as the people who are my age that do smoke. If you want to smoke, please do. But please don't kill the rest of because of your habit.
Firstly, the whiskey vs. tequila analogy doesn't hold. At all. Unrealistic. You're conflicted in your thought process. ou say you WANT to go to a place, but you CAN'T because of the smell of smoke. OK - Fair enough. Wise choice, if you have made that decision.

If you go into a bar that allows smoking, you are allowing yourself to be amongst the smokers - PERIOD! The world doesn't surround those who 'want' not to be offended by the actions of others. The smokers are IN THE BAR! You should be thankful that the gathering is well identified so that you can make the choice not to ENTER!

I'll resist asking you what your last ame is --- you aren't making a whole bunch of sense.
Brittany R

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Jan 21, 2008
 
I make perfect sense. Which is why non smoker's regulations are sweeping the country. We ALL should be able to patronize ALL businesses. And not have a portion of the citizens run off because of something the other patrons are doing. You can still go to bars; just smoke outside or in a smoking area. If I had a flatulence problem, and I know it offended your nose, I would do it in the restroom. It's just common sense, and good neighborly behavior.
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