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Alberta delisting chiropractic care, ends subsidies

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Wisdom

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#25
Jul 8, 2009
 
So stop your ignorant defense of chiropractic, open your ears, listen to the expert, investigate outside of this forum and then apologize to me.

Its quite simple Joey. Visit chirotalk where anyone is free to ask questions. There, you will get honest responses from many former life graduates.

Then again, you seem incapable of critical thinking.. To you, all this "anti-chiropractic" business is just a big conspiracy.

Like I said, believe what you want.

And you can stop calling people liars just because they tell you something you don't like to hear.

Anyway, I don't [post for you. I post to let other people know just how much fraud is in the chiropractic field.

Now empty your chiropractic diaper.
Joe Whizdumps Master

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#26
Jul 8, 2009
 
I post to prove how stupid you are. I will call you exactly what you are and that is a LIAR! I want people to know that there are more good chiropractors then bad and that it is a very well researched practice. Do you have the same problem with PTs? I know alot of PTs that do some very crazy stuff that they personaly make up, but I dont see you post on that. Why is it just chiroporactic you hate?

“The Catholic and the Communist are alike in assuming that an opponent cannot be both honest and intelligent.”
George Orwell
Loving Life

Hernando, FL

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#27
Jul 8, 2009
 
Breakking news

Chirostalkers has just promoted our very own, JoeBobwisDumpGump to the new position of Diaper Boat Captin.

Yes, you heard it right, Lt. Botnick decided to give this esteemed position to JoeBob, for all of the smelly diapers he has worn.

They set sail tonight on the new DumbmaGump boat. The only problem is that JoeBobGump is sad that his buddy BubbaTeo will not be present. They will be holding a moment of silence before they diaper wash the boat for sea.

Good Job JoeBobGump, I hope you catch a lot of dirty diapers on your voyage.
Wisdom

Glen Cove, NY

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#28
Jul 9, 2009
 
Joe boy claims, "I want people to know that there are more good chiropractors then bad and that it is a very well researched practice."

Ha Ha

If you say so.

Oh and that research you mention.

Most chiropractors use an activator to treat people. They use activator to treat poeple with a myriad of diseases and illnesses.

Please post the research that shows that activator is more effective than placebo.

Take your time.

For someone that is so quick to defend the indefensible, you must be able to show that activator is more effective than placebo.

And for argument's sake. Please limit your research links to those studies which include more than several hundred "patients".

This really is too easy for me.

Now empty your chiropractic diapers before you spill your mess onto the floor.

Thank you for reading and keeping up with "chriotalk". The world's foremost chiropractic website.
Joe Whizdumps Master

Bend, OR

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#29
Jul 9, 2009
 
Once again I ask how you placebo an activator?
Wisdom

Glen Cove, NY

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#30
Jul 10, 2009
 
I'll take that as your answer.

You have no research.

You could have admitted that in the first place.

Your first step in emptying your chiropractic diaper.
Wisdom

Glen Cove, NY

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#31
Jul 10, 2009
 
Next question joey.

What is chiropractic quackery?
Joe Wisdumps Master

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#32
Jul 10, 2009
 
OK smart guy, can you product a single double blinded study on any medical procedure? Not drugs, actual medical procedures. The activator is a chiropractic procedure in which it is very difficult to double blind. I really don’t see how admitting that is somehow is proof of anything.

Can you give us a single double blind study on any type of surgical procedure?

Let’s see if you are really intellectually honest about this question.

All I need is ONE study.
Wisdom

Glen Cove, NY

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#33
Jul 10, 2009
 
Thank you for your post.

The simple answer to my question is NO, you don't have any research to support your chiropractic nonsense.

Second, I am not here to defend medicine. If you want legitimate research on a medical procedure, there are plenty of places to look. If you want to argue the efficacy of a medical procedure, there are plenty of forums devoted to medicine.(Just let me know where you post so I can see for myself how you "set them straight". Ha ha)

Removing a burst appendix, coronary bypass surgery, transurethral resection of a cancerous or precancerous prostate, for examples, are all well researched and outcome based data are readily available.

Chiropractors, on the other hand treat a myriad of illnesses with that stupid activator clicker.......WITH NO RESEARCH WHAT-SO-EVER!

You want to argue that? really? And you have the audacity to talk about "honesty"? really?

Now empty your chiropractic diaper.
Joe Wisdumps Master

Bend, OR

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#34
Jul 10, 2009
 
"Removing a burst appendix, coronary bypass surgery, transurethral resection of a cancerous or precancerous prostate, for examples, are all well researched and outcome based data are readily available."

Got ya moron!

So it’s OK for medical research to be based on outcome, but chiropractic is held to a higher standard?

Just shows how stupid you really are. You post over and over again how chiropractic has no double blinded studies, but when asked to show a single study on medical procedures, you can’t. Just more babble about how you don’t really know what you are talking about.

I hope everyone can see the fraud you are. Ill give you one more chance to show us any one single study. Just one that proves your point would be helpful, but you won’t be able to because they don’t exist.

The funny thing is you will never admit that you are wrong no matter how stupid we make you look. Keep posting, it makes my day.

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#35
Jul 11, 2009
 
I've got a study design that I think Wisdom would be a perfect candidate for ...

Parachute use to prevent death and major trauma related to gravitational challenge: systematic review of randomised controlled trials.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14684649...
Wisdom

Glen Cove, NY

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#36
Jul 11, 2009
 
As if you chiroquackers had any "outcome" based studies.

Ha Ha

This nucca quack tweaks the atlas for every patient that comes into his office ....NO MATTER WHAT THE CONDITION>

Face it joey, you are way too stupid to realize the fraud that I just pointed out. But again, it ain't for you that I post. Chiropractors and their defenders are clearly some of the most ignorant people out there.

You prove my point every post you make. Ha Ha
"medicine this, medicine that..."
Let me repeat, every person that walks into mr. nucca's office gets their atlas tweaked, for any condiiton they present with. Thats a fact.

Sort of like going to a surgeaon's office and having your gall bladder removed for any condition the patient presents with.

hey, bozos, reread what I just posted. And then ask me to produce some medical studies. Ha Ha

I am the expert on chiropractic.
You idiots are way out of your league.
You idiots can call me names all day long.

Fact is, this nucca quack and all the other chiroquackers who practice their voodoo belong in jail. Period.

And of course, they all need to empty their chiropractic diapers.

Really, I just can't stop laughing about your claim that chiropractors have outcome based studies. He He

Oh and your post," So it’s OK for medical research to be based on outcome, but chiropractic is held to a higher standard? "

Oh yeah, chiropractic held to a higher standard?. That's rich. try having any standards in chiropractic. Like which of the more than 200+ chiropractic techniques is most effective for a particular condition. Hmmmm? Ha ha

Of course his nucca quack will say he can cure high blood pressure by tweaking atlas. Ha Ha Or so says the study in which the founder of nucca performed.

Empty them diapers.
Loving Life

Hernando, FL

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#37
Jul 11, 2009
 
Read some other new posts by our very own wisfreak

He is now bashing women and seems to think global warming is funny.

This quackter also thinks that their is a vaccine conspiracy

He also seems to think that MD want to give dangerous vaccines to kids

He has proven himself the most useless loser freak topix has ever known

Now lets post this freak out of this forum

Why do you think it is funny to bash women wisfreak?

Why do you think global warming is a laughing matter?

Do you hear voices also wisfreak?

Looks like you will benefit from having you atlas adjusted as you have lost your mind to another subluxation

Wisfreak really helps make the case for Chiropractic

He has now lost all credibility, not that he had any to begin with
Wisdom

Glen Cove, NY

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#38
Jul 12, 2009
 
Still in denial about nucca quackery huh mr. chirolife boy?

Hey, I understand why you don't want to call it fraud, because that would be the start to emptying your chiropractic diaper.

So, I'll reiterate,

"This nucca quack tweaks the atlas for every patient that comes into his office ....NO MATTER WHAT THE CONDITION>

Face it joey, you are way too stupid to realize the fraud that I just pointed out. But again, it ain't for you that I post. Chiropractors and their defenders are clearly some of the most ignorant people out there.

You prove my point every post you make. Ha Ha
"medicine this, medicine that..."
Let me repeat, every person that walks into mr. nucca's office gets their atlas tweaked, for any conditon they present with. Thats a fact.

Sort of like going to a surgeon's office and having your gall bladder removed for any condition the patient presents with.

hey, bozos, reread what I just posted."

Then you can ask me again if "global warming is a laughing matter."

Not that its relevant to chiropractic or anything.

Ha Ha Don't let the fact that the earth has been getting colder over the last decade change your opinion. or anything.

By the way, you "Gore nuts" have changed the term from "global warming" to "climate change" You'd better get on board with the lingo. Gore is depending on you. He needs to keep his private jets flying and his huge mansions heated.

But lifeboy, you're good at not letting the facts sway you. Don't stop now.

Just please, empty your chiropractic diaper.
Loving Life

Hernando, FL

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#39
Jul 12, 2009
 
Global warming, climate change, whatever you call it wisPIG, it is not a laughing matter

Also, WHY do you profess to bash women on this forum wisPIG?

How do you know what NUCCA does for every patient? Are you stalking him for his activator to add to your sick collection?

FACT, GORE should be president as the election was stolen, any idiot knows that.

FACT, Al Gore has done more for people than you can ever dream of.

FACT the earth has not been getting colder you idiot, boy old boy I know why they named you GUMP wisPIG

Now get your lying, good for nothing, smelly diaper out of here, before we pump your posts full of cheese, ok 1, 2, 3

Now, Get on you knees and tell me you love Chiropractic

We know who you hang with, Botnick, Nemo, Freely, StorkMD, Bugsy, Barrett, yeah we know you have been cheating on us

STOP bashing women wisPIG
Loving Life

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#40
Jul 12, 2009
 
I would like to hear from some Chiropractors on how they like practicing. Also, how many patients do your serve as their primary care physician?

What tests do Chiropractors order, can you guys order all types of lab work?

I hear that a lot of DC's also perform EKG/ECG tests on patients.

Do you find yourself providing none NMS disorder diagnosis like gout or diagnosis for internal disorders?

I hope to have some feedback on my questions. I think this will allow for us to talk more about Chiropractic instead of always putting wisPIG back into his place.

In what ways can Chiropractors fill the shortage of primary care physicians?

I really think this is a good opportunity to pursue this for the national healthcare program.

Let us face it, Chiropractors get basically the same education a MD's without the residency. That being siad they more than qualify to serve as primary care physicians.

How many DC's are in the pursuit of hospital privelages? I know that a lot of MD's and admin are very open to this, esp when you show the amount of education a DC gets

I really hope that DC's will get primary care status in the new National program, I am really pulling for them.

Look forward to hearing from everyone
Wisdom

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#41
Jul 13, 2009
 
Hey lifeboy, you like getting into the gutter don't you?

You said without any evidence, "Also, WHY do you profess to bash women on this forum wisPIG?"

Ha Ha Sort of like asking someone when the stopped beating their children.

You really are stupid aren't you?

And by the way, "global warming" is quite the joke. The earth has been cooling over the last decade. Then again, don't let that fact change your mind or make you think that Gore is pullng the wool over your eyes.

And chiropractors doing EKGs? Talk about people who are unqualified to interpret EKGs? Ha ha

I guess you're qualified by chiropractic standards if you can read what the EKG machine has diagnosed. But you know, EKG machines frequently misdiagnose. Then it would be up to the chiropractor to determine the real diagnosis. And since they are totally unqualified to read EKGs, well...you can imagine. Uh OH! Chiropractic quackery exposed again.

Time to unload those chiroiporactic diapers.
nwtk2007

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#42
Jul 13, 2009
 
Actually, global warming is not ruled out by a 10 year cooling trend, if indeed, there actually is one. The trend would have to be averaged out over several hundred years.

The fact that global temps and industrially produced CO2 coincide so very closely makes it very had to deny the overall trend. Throw in all the other pieces of evidence and denial of global warming and man's influence becomes almost as idiotic as trying to deny evolution of species in favor of a 10,000 yr creation by an intelligent designer.
Loving Life

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#43
Jul 13, 2009
 
WisPIG siad:
You said without any evidence, "Also, WHY do you profess to bash women on this forum wisPIG?"

Ha Ha Sort of like asking someone when the stopped beating their children

Excuse me wisPIG, but I did not get that one. Do you also beat your children dude? The more I hear you post the more I become quite disturbed by your words. The fact is that you have bashed women on your posts and now you throw in beating children.

You are a very dangerous PIG wisPIG, you have no credibility at all and the only reason you post here is because no one else will listen to you.

Now do not change the subject, Chiropractors can get proper training to read EKG/ECG, the acutal proper name is ECG for Electrical Cardio Gram you idiot

Now you must be one of those chemical nut job company supporters with your statements on global warming

Let me guess, you also probally think that what a person eats has nothing to do with their health

Your diaper is full
L Baines

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#44
Sep 10, 2009
 
Wisdom wrote:
Its about time Albertans do not have to continue paying for bizarre chiropractic treatments like dnft, nucca and AK.
The chiropractic field was unable to weed out all their stupid and ineffective treatments and so the government had to do it for them.
Too bad it took a difficult economy to make them see the light.
Hey guys, what do you think????!! Take a good look at this link. Coincidence that you never see WiseDump and Barrett at the same place at the same time? I don't think so!!
http://www.canlyme.com/quackwatch.html
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