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Abortion Fight Erupts in Health Care Debate

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“Hen oida hoti ouden oida”

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Tuesday Nov 10
 
Moncie wrote:
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Sorry, but I'm not wrong. There are laws that vary from state to state that allow a person to terminate their parental rights. Adoption is not the only way. Do some research.
I'm well aware that their are laws that allow people to relinquish their rights. But relinquishing ones RESPONSIBILITIES is something TOTALLY different. Outside of adoption, it's rarely allowed and is always tied to extenuating circumstances. The intricacies may vary from state to state but the gist of it is the same. Both the mother and the father have to agree to the terms, and it's rare you will find a mother willing to relieve her child's father of any financial responsibilities of raising their child. Imagine how many dead beat dad's would be signing away their rights if they could get out of child support.

You should try following your own advice. You might actually (gasp!) learn something.
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Tuesday Nov 10
 
MeganK wrote:
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I'm well aware that their are laws that allow people to relinquish their rights. But relinquishing ones RESPONSIBILITIES is something TOTALLY different. Outside of adoption, it's rarely allowed and is always tied to extenuating circumstances. The intricacies may vary from state to state but the gist of it is the same. Both the mother and the father have to agree to the terms, and it's rare you will find a mother willing to relieve her child's father of any financial responsibilities of raising their child. Imagine how many dead beat dad's would be signing away their rights if they could get out of child support.
You should try following your own advice. You might actually (gasp!) learn something.
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So you do admit that it's possible. Thanks. I did my research. I know what I'm talking about. I do legal research for a living.(gasp!)

“Hen oida hoti ouden oida”

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Moncie wrote:
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So you do admit that it's possible. Thanks. I did my research. I know what I'm talking about. I do legal research for a living.(gasp!)
OMG the omniscient legal research assistant!
Lol get over yourself, I do legal research as well, same as many other law students.

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#152
Tuesday Nov 10
 
Moncie wrote:
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Few fries short of a Happy Meal, you are.
As is the case with most liberal's ( in this agenda driven de bate) lol

Resort to personal assault and attack when armed with inferior intellect.

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Tuesday Nov 10
 
Moncie wrote:
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So you do admit that it's possible. Thanks. I did my research. I know what I'm talking about. I do legal research for a living.(gasp!)
And I sued 8 district court judges in western NC federal court, charollote Division, SEPTEMBER 11th 1997 and kicked their arses.

It was only by means of police brutality, the suit did not find resolution and set a prescendence for Men from Virginia to Florida.

But, oh thats right! Men are only sperm donors and meal tickets in America.

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#154
Tuesday Nov 10
 
( it was covered on NBC news the next days broadcast in the local Charlotte Station)

Want the file number? No, you wouldnt. It would cost you $45.00 to get it online. And you need that to buy me a happy meal.

LOL

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#155
Tuesday Nov 10
 
There is no way in hades they could have defended themselves under my lawsuit.

All I needed was 1, just 1 woman in the jury.

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#156
Tuesday Nov 10
 
What was going on at that time in America?

There was a President under investigation for allowing Monica to be more then a Ho Monica. A poor representative of Manhood, no?

Meanwhile, I was in the trenches for men.

“When pigs fly...”

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Tooth4U wrote:
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Perfect example why it is not fair in choice . Lets take the example of a man and a woman , and the woman becoming pregnant. The man who conceived the child with the woman has no say in the process. The woman however does, full say.
If the woman chooses to have an abortion, the Man has no say in it. ANd because of that, he should not be held to child support payments if the woman chooses to not have an abortion, simply because he has no choice and no say.
Totally unfair use of choice, no?
It may not seem fair to you but the fact remains that it is only the woman who is pregnant and therefore she has final say in the matter. If a man is concerned that the women he has sex with may abort a pregnancy, he should be proactive and use a condom. Unfortunately, most men are more concerned with getting laid than what may happen after sex. Shouldn't he be responsible for protecting himself from a possible emotional upheaval if he is anti-abortion? Even better, he should know a woman's view on abortion before he has sex with her. He can't control her actions but he can certainly control his own.

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MeganK wrote:
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I'm well aware that their are laws that allow people to relinquish their rights. But relinquishing ones RESPONSIBILITIES is something TOTALLY different. Outside of adoption, it's rarely allowed and is always tied to extenuating circumstances. The intricacies may vary from state to state but the gist of it is the same. Both the mother and the father have to agree to the terms, and it's rare you will find a mother willing to relieve her child's father of any financial responsibilities of raising their child. Imagine how many dead beat dad's would be signing away their rights if they could get out of child support.
You should try following your own advice. You might actually (gasp!) learn something.
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respond ability........re linquish.
think, I mean thee no confusion.

the ability for Men to respond is DE terminated within that which is a 90 billion dollar a year industry in America. The machinations of the family court jurice prudence process. It sets , by means of its lucrative endeavors, ones ability to respond . Setting, and doing is another matter all togeather.

There are men in Texas pulling guns on judges.

This wont go down lightly, I see. This emasculation of Men.

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elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>It may not seem fair to you but the fact remains that it is only the woman who is pregnant and therefore she has final say in the matter. If a man is concerned that the women he has sex with may abort a pregnancy, he should be proactive and use a condom. Unfortunately, most men are more concerned with getting laid than what may happen after sex. Shouldn't he be responsible for protecting himself from a possible emotional upheaval if he is anti-abortion? Even better, he should know a woman's view on abortion before he has sex with her. He can't control her actions but he can certainly control his own.
lol @ pro active.

Lets look upon the culture created wherein lil boys who will one day become men are born into!

Lets look at the whole of the permisquity culture, intentionally created in order to level a society. It is true, that this has been done.

Pro active in what?

Certainly men should be pro active in todays world lol.

Where do you begin their education? They being limb oriented, and restless often. Do you allow big Pharma to neuter them first with Ridylin? Or , perhaps in the messages of Rap sheet music, allow them to find what is left of themselves by images of 'yo mama, sup ho.......?

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Wednesday Nov 11
 
(correction to post 158. machinations of the family court 'aperatus'.)

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#161
Wednesday Nov 11
 
it surely is no process to speak of.

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#162
Wednesday Nov 11
 
lol outa here'
gotta a flying pig icon.......hahha

"poof the Magic Dragon
Lived by the Sea

and got himself so fast outa here

he ........ hmm..he..bent a mighty tree?(L)

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#163
Wednesday Nov 11
 
come on now oinkers....follow my threads posts
(*psst for the folks who really care. On the night of September 11th in Charlotte NC , when I think the broadcast was on their local TV network station played and they interviewed me on the steps of the Fed Courthouse. Most all the news overcame this that night all about a SPORTS JOCK lol who drugged some mental female patient at a party) lol

ONe has to go back to when I went up against the Broyhill funiture company to understand that.

Ron Aldridge ...Charlotte Observer

AAU Track and Field Meet wins out over Anit sawdust Parade. ummm 1971 in the spring.

Ron interviewed me, and such and it was in their paper.

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#164
Wednesday Nov 11
 
surely Ron Aldridge is not forgotton, nor his stories in the news media?

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Moncie wrote:
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Sorry, but this is ridiculous. Humans are SUPPOSED TO have sex. Because she can't afford or doesn't want a baby is no reason not to. Of course, I would expect that anyone who doesn't want a baby would use some form of contraceptive to try to prevent it. But in the event that it fails, I'd rather us pay for her abortion (IF that's what she wants), than pay for another kid to be on welfare. You do the math.
Well Moncie when it time for you get on medicare and you need treatment maybe we should just stick a knitting needle behind your skull and we wont have to pay for it!

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#166
Wednesday Nov 11
 
NBC camera man on the steps of the Federal Courthouse in Charlotte NC Sept 11TH

"what do you hope to accomplish with your fileing today"

Me. " I hope to show that the family courts in America
1. DESTROY Families
2. Are Toxi to Children
3. And as a Matter of routine, disenfranchise Fathers.

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#167
Wednesday Nov 11
 
toxic

poof!

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#168
Wednesday Nov 11
 
As an american, it's already been decided that killing babies is okay. Abortion is nice and legal and I hope it never changes. So frankly nothing else matters. Women wanna kill unborn bald retards it's fine with me.
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