'A very historic moment': Locals weigh in on the House bill

Gdog wrote:

<quoted text>Not only that, but they have MUCH lower rates of domestic violence, stress-caused diseases & cancer, no lawsuits for medical liability, MUCH lower employer insurance (workers' comp), and not one of their citizens can go bankrupt due to an illness or injury.

Middle-o-the-strea m wrote:

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gdogshit, you and shc are both puppets of the obama care scam. You bow to pelosi and barry, and you spout their lies.
lower rates of domestic violence. Dont know where you pulled that from.
stress-caused diseases & cancer. You visit the (health pannel) wink wink.
no lawsuits for medical liability. Sorry you cant sue the Feds.
MUCH lower employer insurance. Not affected by this bill.
and not one of their citizens can go bankrupt due to an illness or injury. Because to go bankrupt you have to have personal property.
If its so great move there. Your arguments are not valid.

Jeff E wrote:

This is the first time in history that our federal government will be forcing the people to buy something that many don't want or need.
The penalties will be severe, up to & including jail time if you don't buy the insurance.
It will add trillions to our national deficit & eventually will place the entire health care system under government control.
The federal government has totally botched the flu vaccine delivery this year. Severe shortages in not just the Swine Flu vaccine, but now the regular flu vaccine as well.
Yet the nincompoops on the left want it to take over 17% of the entire economy?

Socialized Health Care wrote:

So how many of the folks ranting in are actually receiving government paid health care right now? Half of Americans already receive government paid health care. The other half cannot have a preexisting condition and are subject to being dropped if they get sick and then face bankruptcy as a result. What sense does this make? Why is this worth the vitriolic defense of the status quo I see here? The hypocrisy, and lack of understanding about the profit-motives of the private health insurance industry is astounding. I am a 40 year old small business owner working 60+ hours a week and do not have, nor can I afford, any health insurance. As a vet, I could "get mine" through the VA but I don't. I try to live a healthy lifestyle (no sodas, burgers, other corn-syrup based "food-like products"). Why do people in this country have to suffer the least efficient and most expensive health care system in the world. Pretty much anything is better than the status quo people, unless you want to completely bankrupt the country and let millions of people continue to suffer so that health care insurance companies can make fat profits.

Middle-o-the-road wrote:

There was a wonderful program on the History Channel the other night that ALL repubicans should have been forced to watch.
Seems there is a thriving new business of providing "off-shore" medical treatment for people that the insurance industry "death-panels" have denied their members.
Get that, INSURANCE COMPANIES have DEATH PANALS!
If you're rich and the death panels deny you care you can afford to be treated here in the U.S. after being denied treatment by your insurance company.
If you're poor and are denied treatment, you're only options are to seek treatment overseas or die.
Kind of strange that the repubicans are screaming about phantom government "death panels" butt they support the insurance companies "death-panels".
WOW........

josiemiller wrote:

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Th US doesn't have the least efficient medical program.

Elmer Fudd wrote:

The gov't. can't get people to buy auto insurance as required by law. Want to see the CF they make of trying to blackjack everyone to buy health insurance? Here comes "swine flu vaccine" screwup only a 100x worse. The government, especially, liberal governments, are nothing but dictators in not so subtle disguise.

Rose wrote:

Mike Thompson (D-CA), once a man who won votes from both sides of the aisle, now and in recent years he has shown himself to be a partisan tool. He was going to vote for this bill in the very beginning, before the Recess when they were trying to ram it through. Before anyone, including himself, had read it, before anyone knew what was in it. Before the Tea Parties, before the "nasty" Town Hall meetings, before the people started asking questions and before the people told him what they thought.
He would have voted for it no matter what was in it - and he has now done just that.
There is no reason for us to pay for Congressmen and Senators like him to fly to Washington and maintain an office there. We know how he will vote. He does not need to be present or to attend any meetings or read any legislation. It is all dictated for him. We can fill in the blank for his vote while he sits on a street corner begging for change.
Gone are the days when Congressmen were Statesmen.
There is an election coming. Register to vote if you haven't. VOTE even if you have been slacking. Make this one count.

Mary Anne wrote:

I'm just wondering if the people on the left, who complain about us "greedy" folks trying to hang on to our money, ever paid for medical treatment for a stranger out of kindness, or did they just wait for the government to take from the "rich" while they just sat by? As Margaret Thatcher once said -- the problem with socialism is that "other people" soon run out of money. It seems that being a deadbeat in America isn't what it used to be. I wrote to Mike Thompson to ask him if he actually read the entire bill before voting, and why didn't he put it on the internet in time for his constituents to read it. I wonder if he's in the habit of voting on bills he hasn't read. Sorry, Mike, but I'm spending the next year working on your defeat. Humboldt County has few enough doctors, but when this takes hold -- I wonder if Mike Thompson will personally drive me down to San Fran to see a doctor.

Middle-o-the-road wrote:

government "death panels" butt they support the insurance companies "death-panels".
WOW........

Mary Anne wrote:

I'm just wondering if the people on the left, who complain about us "greedy" folks trying to hang on to our money, ever paid for medical treatment for a stranger out of kindness, or did they just wait for the government to take from the "rich" while they just sat by? As Margaret Thatcher once said -- the problem with socialism is that "other people" soon run out of money. It seems that being a deadbeat in America isn't what it used to be. I wrote to Mike Thompson to ask him if he actually read the entire bill before voting, and why didn't he put it on the internet in time for his constituents to read it. I wonder if he's in the habit of voting on bills he hasn't read. Sorry, Mike, but I'm spending the next year working on your defeat. Humboldt County has few enough doctors, but when this takes hold -- I wonder if Mike Thompson will personally drive me down to San Fran to see a doctor.

Middle-o-the-strea m wrote:

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Do you not think this new bill will have death panels? It wont be just denial of treatment either. It will be nice and welcoming counseling. Friendly persuasion to accept your fate. Or if you are in pain how about a nice assisted suicide? Hospice is now in this mode. So is planed parenthood.