Smoking Banned In Illinois College Dorms

Big brother is alive and well!!!

As is becoming typical of our governor, Blago stalled around again and then finally signed the IL College Dorm Smoking Ban bill yesterday.

I wonder if this will cause social changes in Illinois college towns by reducing the number of students desiring on-campus housing and increase the population of students who will choose to find off-campus housing, because they object to the ban and learning/studying in a police-state atmosphere.

http://www.illinoissmokersrights.com/

You've got to be kidding me. Being that it is shared accomodations, I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner. Being a non-smoker I would hate having to be forced to room with a smoker.

Just to clear things up. Nobody, but nobody is ever forced into a dorm room with a smoker. Don't know if you've been to college or university, but that would be something you'd fill out on a form, and speaking for a university here, there were different floors for smokers and smoking was off-limits in the laundry rooms.

Eventually, the floors reserved for smokers went from about 8 to 2 per building, then smoking wasn't allowed in any residence.

You wouldn't think so, but this is actually more problematic for non smokers NOW than it was when there was smoking everywhere. Why? Smokers have gotta smoke somewhere indoors when it's -40 celsius, and they sure as heck aren't going to go outside their own place to do so.

Yes I have my undergrad and graduate degrees. I can only speak for my last year in 95 and we did not have designated floors/rooms. My roommate smoked, but we came to an agreement that he smoke outside.

And when did laws change due to inclement weather. Put on a friggin coat.

VH,it is to bad everyone couldn't have been as considerate.If they had(I am talking everyone,everywhere)maybe these bans would not have been but both sides refused to give an inch.I don't smoke,my husband does.He smokes in 1 area not affecting me at all.I have been in places where a smoker would blow smoke into the non-moking area and laugh.I have also seen non-smokers sit in the smoking section then complain.

Ok I am a reasonable person. If my college roomate doesn't want me to smoke in the room I can understand that. I will go as far as to say second hand smoke is just as bad as first hand. But when you think about it smokers get both. People have a right to clean air. What about my choice? Isn't the governer pro-choice or is he just pro-choice when it suits him?
I also know that there are forms to be filled out when asking for dorm rooms. Why can't there be a part of the application smoking or non smoking. Then just to be reasonable put the smokers together and the non smokers together. Then just to be spitfull put the smokers on the top floors and make the elevator stop on the last non smoking floor so they have to walk up the stairs. There will be either alot of people quiting or moving. Either is fine when you think about the space it will free up for others to live.

WWW wrote:

Ok I am a reasonable person. Then just to be spitfull put the smokers on the top floors and make the elevator stop on the last non smoking floor so they have to walk up the stairs. There will be either alot of people quiting or moving. Either is fine when you think about the space it will free up for others to live.

You know, I AM a reasonable person and thought you were telling the truth there about yourself being a reasonable person, until this last sentence. Nothing wrong with the top floors being designated as the smoking floors, but to be nasty enough to not let the elevator go up there is downright mean and totally uncalled for.

And my family wonders why I dislke socializing so much..........it's attitudes like that, which appear to me more and more prevalent these days and NOT just about smokers either.

If you follow the governor's attention diverting priorities, his next act will be to ban the consumption of munchies in dorm rooms while still neglecting to adequately fund our public schools (including state universities).

Lynda wrote:

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You know, I AM a reasonable person and thought you were telling the truth there about yourself being a reasonable person, until this last sentence. Nothing wrong with the top floors being designated as the smoking floors, but to be nasty enough to not let the elevator go up there is downright mean and totally uncalled for.
And my family wonders why I dislke socializing so much..........it's attitudes like that, which appear to me more and more prevalent these days and NOT just about smokers either.

I think you missing the humor that I intended with that. Smoke will rise that is why I think that the top floors should be smoking floors. As far as not letting the elevator go up, it was a joke. There is one college dorm at Illinois State that only stops on every other floor. So go call them and tell them how mean they are for actually having an elevator like that.

WWW wrote:

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I think you missing the humor that I intended with that. Smoke will rise that is why I think that the top floors should be smoking floors. As far as not letting the elevator go up, it was a joke. There is one college dorm at Illinois State that only stops on every other floor. So go call them and tell them how mean they are for actually having an elevator like that.

Actually it wasn't the idea of the top floors being smoking at all. Where my mother recently moved she is having a problem with smoke seeping through the common air ducts. We discussed this, and I told her what they should do is make the top floors the smoking floors (the number of floors based on the current number of smokers). So I understand and agree with that plan totally.

I did however, miss the humor about the elevator, probably because most remarks like that are made with hatred and malice, so I took it a little more to heart. Yes, I can see the humor, but these days it's no longer that funny as most would indeed agree with it. And THAT is sad.

Most smokers should have a thick skin it is no longer socially acceptable to smoke. As a smoker I tend to stay home more. I know the risks I take with smoking. I talked to my doctor and set a quit date. I have the patches and I think I can do it this time.

WWW wrote:

Most smokers should have a thick skin it is no longer socially acceptable to smoke. As a smoker I tend to stay home more. I know the risks I take with smoking. I talked to my doctor and set a quit date. I have the patches and I think I can do it this time.

I tried the patches and broke out in hives...yipes! I was going to talk to the doc about that new pill that everyone is raving about. Read a post out here somewhere about it...I think its FDA approved...I'd like to give it a try. How long have you smoked? For me its not only the nicotine addiction but its that hand to mouth habit also...good luck to you! Let us know how it goes.

WWW wrote:

Most smokers should have a thick skin it is no longer socially acceptable to smoke. As a smoker I tend to stay home more. I know the risks I take with smoking. I talked to my doctor and set a quit date. I have the patches and I think I can do it this time.

hehehehehe I do tend to have thick skin, but even with thick skin there really is only so much a person can take. Don't you agree?

Good luck with your attempt. I did the patch AND the gum together a few years ago..........totally useless. It was totally useless because I wasn't quitting because *I* really wanted to, I was quitting to shut everyone up. Now I'm smoking twice as much as before thanks to all the bans, because I stay home and since I live alone I can smoke one right after the other without having to listen to anyone or deal with all the forced coughing (and yes it is really easy to tell a real cough from a forced one), etc.

Oh well..........we are all going to die sooner or later, and I plan on going out happy, and the way the world is going now, sooner works just well for me. I never did want to live to be 100 anyway....hehehehehe

It would be far better for you to try Revel, if you really want to quit...while you are breaking the habit of the physical activity of smoking. Revel is snus, contained in a little packet that you place along your gum, between your lip and teeth. The patch distributes nicotine very slowly, but snus equals smoking in nicotine delivery. No one has to know you are using it. It doesn't show and there is no specific time limit for removal of the little packet. At least that way you are not giving the pharmaceuticals one dollar! They supply funding for much of the anti-movement. If you truly want to quite (incidentally nothing will help your hand-to-mouth habit other than personal determination-from my personal experience), try the snus. I've used it and it helps for a day of airports and planes, or in a long movie. Patches have a 7% success rate and this new pill, approved by the FDA or not, has a 20% success rate. None of our scientists have bothered to learn what the long term results are from either of them. It's another pill for the currently sad trend of taking prescription drugs for everything.

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Garnet Dawn wrote:

It would be far better for you to try Revel, if you really want to quit...while you are breaking the habit of the physical activity of smoking. Revel is snus, contained in a little packet that you place along your gum, between your lip and teeth. The patch distributes nicotine very slowly, but snus equals smoking in nicotine delivery. No one has to know you are using it. It doesn't show and there is no specific time limit for removal of the little packet. At least that way you are not giving the pharmaceuticals one dollar! They supply funding for much of the anti-movement. If you truly want to quite (incidentally nothing will help your hand-to-mouth habit other than personal determination-from my personal experience), try the snus. I've used it and it helps for a day of airports and planes, or in a long movie. Patches have a 7% success rate and this new pill, approved by the FDA or not, has a 20% success rate. None of our scientists have bothered to learn what the long term results are from either of them. It's another pill for the currently sad trend of taking prescription drugs for everything.
http://www.illinoissmokersrights.com/

Wow, you certainly have my undivided attention! What is it called? SNUS? For a minute there (being from Texas and all) I thought you meant SNUFF...LOL that too can come in a little pouch to be placed between your gums...but with that stuff you have to er, uh..spit once in a while as swallowing it will make you sick. Do you have more info on it?

In my opinion the best way to quit is cold turkey. No money to big pharma and no nicotine. I tried Revel (or Access as it is called here)...it is a great product, cleaner than regular smokeless tobacco and rarely if ever a need to spit. Very cheap too, I preferred the cinnamon flavour.

What actually helped me the most was hearing someone say the physical withdrawal was over in 72 hours, and after that I knew it would only be in my head so it was easier to control.

Still, it was my choice and not the government's. People can say I quit because of the new ban coming up, well it actually wasn't that, I already had a back up plan of where to smoke long before now. I tried to quit once a few years ago when there was no warning of a smoking ban and failed because as the previous poster mentioned, it wasn't about me.

Garnet...thanks a bunch for the information. Will call them and see what it costs, all the other stuff and get some. That site answered all the questions I had about it. THANKS AGAIN!!!

Garnet...thanks a bunch for the information. Will call them and see what it costs, all the other stuff and get some. That site answered all the questions I had about it. THANKS AGAIN!!!

Glad to be of help!

From the American Cancer Institute:

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Chewing tobacco and snuff contain 28 carcinogens (cancer-causing agents). The most harmful carcinogens in smokeless tobacco are the tobacco-specific nitrosamines (TSNAs). They are formed during the growing, curing, fermenting, and aging of tobacco. TSNAs have been detected in some smokeless tobacco products at levels many times higher than levels of other types of nitrosamines that are allowed in foods, such as bacon and beer.
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Other cancer-causing substances in smokeless tobacco include N-nitrosamino acids, volatile N-nitrosamines, benzo(a)pyrene, volatile aldehydes, formaldehyde, acetaldehyde, crotonaldehyde, hydrazine, arsenic, nickel, cadmium, benzopyrene, and polonium-210.
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All tobacco, including smokeless tobacco, contains nicotine, which is addictive. The amount of nicotine absorbed from smokeless tobacco is 3 to 4 times the amount delivered by a cigarette. Nicotine is absorbed more slowly from smokeless tobacco than from cigarettes, but more nicotine per dose is absorbed from smokeless tobacco than from cigarettes. Also, the nicotine stays in the bloodstream for a longer time.

I've seen cancer of the mouth, jaw, throat from long term use of smokeless tobacco. Not a pretty sight. Best bet for your health is to just give up tobacco entirely. I smoked for 30+ years and giving it up, cold turkey, was about the best thing I've ever done.