Bill forces citizens to list guns on taxes?

Nothing would surprise me with this administration.

LOL,all my guns including this one i keep in my boot seems to be missing,Hmmm........how strange.

This bill is currently locked up in committee, and will likely die there. But we still need to keep an eye on it.

If you have ever bought a firearm from an FFL dealer and filled out Form 4473, they already know what you own anyway. The make, model, serial number, type, and calber are put on the form. http://www.thundertek.net/documents/4473.pdf

Private sale...no form needed. No record with the feds.

Just say no. - Nancy Reagan

Why would you care if you have nothing to hide? Don't want law enforcement keeping tabs on illegal activity?
I feel a slippery slope argument coming.

Sigh wrote:

Why would you care if you have nothing to hide? Don't want law enforcement keeping tabs on illegal activity?
I feel a slippery slope argument coming.

Perhaps you should wipe better.

Boomer215 wrote:

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I have no meaninful thought to add to this discussion.

Fixed it for you.

Sigh wrote:

Why would you care if you have nothing to hide? Don't want law enforcement keeping tabs on illegal activity?
I feel a slippery slope argument coming.

If government is ONLY interested in "keeping tabs on illegal activity" as you say, then let government require ONLY those who ILLEGALLY own firearms to list them on their returns.

Sigh wrote:

Why would you care if you have nothing to hide? Don't want law enforcement keeping tabs on illegal activity?
I feel a slippery slope argument coming.

Based on that argument, you would have no problem with the local or federal government coming in and inspecting your house for any contraband medications, copied cd's or dvd's, etc. etc. etc. After all, if you have nothing to hide...

"while the bill implements sweeping gun-control measures – including one that would prohibit citizens from owning a gun without a license – the income tax provision Doesn't Exist."

Sigh wrote:

Why would you care if you have nothing to hide? Don't want law enforcement keeping tabs on illegal activity?
I feel a slippery slope argument coming.

I am not registering anything, nor will I pay a tax for exercising my rights. And what I own is none of the govt's business. From a former federal officer who has never committed a felony.

Telstar is a liar. There is nothing in this bill about listing guns on taxes. I read it and I see nothing wrong with this.
Under the legislation, a person who is seeking a firearm license must submit to the attorney general an application including the following information:

1) current passport-sized photo

2) name, address, date and birthplace

3) any other name the applicant has used

4) a clear thumbprint

5) a statement that the individual is not a person prohibited by federal or state law from obtaining a firearm

6) certification that the applicant will keep the firearm safely stored and out of the possession of minors

7) certificate showing applicant has passed a written firearms examination on the safe storage of firearms, safe handling of firearms, use of firearms in the home and risks associated with use, legal responsibilities of forearms owners and "any other subjects, as the Attorney General determines to be appropriate"

8) authorization to release "to the Attorney General or an authorized representative of the Attorney General any mental health records pertaining to the applicant"

9) the date on which the application was submitted

10) applicant signature

The New 2nd Amendment?

The Right of the People who submit to the attorney general an application
(including current passport-sized photo, name, address, date and birthplace, any other name the applicant has used, a clear thumbprint, a statement that the individual is not a person prohibited by federal or state law from obtaining a firearm, certification that the applicant will keep the firearm safely stored and out of the possession of minors, certificate showing applicant has passed a written firearms examination on the safe storage of firearms, safe handling of firearms, use of firearms in the home and risks associated with use, legal responsibilities of forearms owners and "any other subjects, as the Attorney General determines to be appropriate", authorization to release "to the Attorney General or an authorized representative of the Attorney General any mental health records pertaining to the applicant", the date on which the application was submitted, and applicant signature)
to keep and bear arms, Shall not be Infringed.


That'll be the F'in day.

That was a little premature on your part... Telstar posted the headline of the article, which was "Bill forces citizens to list gun..."
I heard this a few months ago, did my own research on the matter and found it to be untrue. A similar bill has been introduced every session for the last 6-8 years and dies in committee.

I hope this one does as well. The whole idea of gun laws should be to punish the criminals who use them in their crimes.

Ruth Less wrote:

Telstar is a liar. There is nothing in this bill about listing guns on taxes. I read it and I see nothing wrong with this.
Under the legislation, a person who is seeking a firearm license must submit to the attorney general an application including the following information:
1) current passport-sized photo
2) name, address, date and birthplace
3) any other name the applicant has used
4) a clear thumbprint
5) a statement that the individual is not a person prohibited by federal or state law from obtaining a firearm
6) certification that the applicant will keep the firearm safely stored and out of the possession of minors
7) certificate showing applicant has passed a written firearms examination on the safe storage of firearms, safe handling of firearms, use of firearms in the home and risks associated with use, legal responsibilities of forearms owners and "any other subjects, as the Attorney General determines to be appropriate"
8) authorization to release "to the Attorney General or an authorized representative of the Attorney General any mental health records pertaining to the applicant"
9) the date on which the application was submitted
10) applicant signature

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Ruth Less wrote:

Telstar is a liar.

There is nothing in this bill about listing guns on taxes.

I read it and I see nothing wrong with this.

No.

I said, "Nothing would surprise me with this administration."

That's not a lie - it's an opinion. And I'll stand by it.

Obama loyalists usually quickly label those of us who don't say our daily prayers to St. Barack as being "racists" or "haters".

But a liar? Not hardly.

blue ranger wrote:

That was a little premature on your part...

Telstar posted the headline of the article, which was "Bill forces citizens to list gun..."<quoted text>

Actually, I didn't even post the article's headline.

Right above the headline it says it was posted by Freedom Rings.

I just made the first comment.

Telstar wrote:

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No.
I said, "Nothing would surprise me with this administration."
That's not a lie - it's an opinion. And I'll stand by it.
Obama loyalists usually quickly label those of us who don't say our daily prayers to St. Barack as being "racists" or "haters".
But a liar? Not hardly.

YES. You are playing on the fears of gun owners. All the propoganda and false information is a farce. You know exactly what you are doing. Lying.

Any gun control bill such as this one has “Infringement “ written all over it.

Ruth Less wrote:

Telstar is a liar. There is nothing in this bill about listing guns on taxes. I read it and I see nothing wrong with this.
Under the legislation, a person who is seeking a firearm license must submit to the attorney general an application including the following information:
1) current passport-sized photo
2) name, address, date and birthplace
3) any other name the applicant has used
4) a clear thumbprint
5) a statement that the individual is not a person prohibited by federal or state law from obtaining a firearm
6) certification that the applicant will keep the firearm safely stored and out of the possession of minors
7) certificate showing applicant has passed a written firearms examination on the safe storage of firearms, safe handling of firearms, use of firearms in the home and risks associated with use, legal responsibilities of forearms owners and "any other subjects, as the Attorney General determines to be appropriate"
8) authorization to release "to the Attorney General or an authorized representative of the Attorney General any mental health records pertaining to the applicant"
9) the date on which the application was submitted
10) applicant signature

I have a big problem with all of it. I will not comply with any of this unconstitutional BS. From a former federal LEO. & I know many who will not comply with this nanny state crap.