NRA Double Standard: Black Woman Sentenced to 20 Years for 'Standing Her Ground' in Florida

Contributions wrote:

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In this situation the clear double standards support that conclusion.
You're welcome to cite where NRA has supported Marrissa in her using of stand your ground law, which is crafted and pushed by the NRA to begin with.
It's indisputable that the NRA has supported Zimmerman while ignoring Marrissa's case.

If her husband had followed her into the garage, and she shot and killed him to keep from getting beat on, then she may have a case. But she didn't do that did she? No. She went to the garage...retrieved a gun...went back into the house...and fired a "warning shot" through a wall which her kids were on the other side of. While I do believe the 20 years was to harsh, if she was truly in fear for her life, she never would have went back into the house in the first place. This was NOT a stand-your-ground case, and she is damn lucky she did not kill one of her kids.

Armed Veteran wrote:

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If her husband had followed her into the garage, and she shot and killed him to keep from getting beat on, then she may have a case. But she didn't do that did she? No. She went to the garage...retrieved a gun...went back into the house...and fired a "warning shot" through a wall which her kids were on the other side of. While I do believe the 20 years was to harsh, if she was truly in fear for her life, she never would have went back into the house in the first place. This was NOT a stand-your-ground case, and she is damn lucky she did not kill one of her kids.

It doesn't matter dumbass.

Stand your ground law don't require you to retreat moron.

Zimmerman FOLLOWED Trayvon and shot him to death and still claim stand your ground, and the NRA STILL supported him while not Marissa, and she didn't even kill anyone at all.

That's called a double standard.

Contributions wrote:

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It doesn't matter dumbass.
Stand your ground law don't require you to retreat moron.
Zimmerman FOLLOWED Trayvon and shot him to death and still claim stand your ground, and the NRA STILL supported him while not Marissa, and she didn't even kill anyone at all.
That's called a double standard.

Zimmerman's case is not a stand-your-ground case either, fucktard. It is a self-defense case. He defended himself from someone bashing his head into the ground.

And for the record...I am NOT an NRA member, nor will I ever be.

Guys, it's obvious that Contributions has his mind made up on the matter. He can't support his statements so he resorts to name calling and smoke and mirrors. Example: He states "stand your ground doesn't require you to retreat". Well, it doesn't allow you to return after you do retreat either.

Armed Veteran wrote:

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Zimmerman's case is not a stand-your-ground case either, fucktard. It is a self-defense case. He defended himself from someone bashing his head into the ground.
And for the record...I am NOT an NRA member, nor will I ever be.

It's a stand your ground case retard.

Because if it wasn't then he will have no grounds to cite self defense since he is the one who followed and instigated the confrontation. Stand your ground allows for the option of retreat but does not require it.

Learn some basic facts before looking like a dumbass.

Contributions wrote:

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In this situation the clear double standards support that conclusion.
You're welcome to cite where NRA has supported Marrissa in her using of stand your ground law, which is crafted and pushed by the NRA to begin with.
It's indisputable that the NRA has supported Zimmerman while ignoring Marrissa's case.

The women in question violated Florida State law ; where as you cannot use a gun to gain leverage.

She illegally discharge a firearm as warning shots are against the law in Florida.

She endangered her children by shooting a bullet in their direction.

She belongs in prison as her case had nothing to do with the stand your ground law.

I am very happy the NRA did not aid this women !
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The fiery prosecutor, known for her fierce victim’s advocacy, takes issue with the protests and the outrage on Alexander’s behalf, saying the Jacksonville woman was the aggressor, not the victim, in the August 2010 incident.

“Because she was not fleeing from an abuser,” Corey told theGrio in answer to why Florida’s Stand Your Ground law was not applied in Alexander’s case, even though Florida’s Supreme Court has ruled in the past that a woman being abused in her own home by her husband has no duty to flee.“A judge heard all the facts and evidence and said that this was not a case of ‘Stand Your Ground,’ Corey said.“You have to compare what [Marissa Alexander] said to what the victims said. There were two young children there as well. None of the physical evidence corroborates her story. There was the 911 call … and you can clearly hear the distress in Rico Gray’s voice. They had a verbal argument [in which] he said ‘I’m outta here,’ and she said,‘I’ve got something for you.’”

http://thegrio.com/2012/05/15/angela-corey-la...

Contributions wrote:

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It's a stand your ground case retard.
Because if it wasn't then he will have no grounds to cite self defense since he is the one who followed and instigated the confrontation. Stand your ground allows for the option of retreat but does not require it.
Learn some basic facts before looking like a dumbass.

And what is the evidence that Zimmerman instigated the confrontation? Following someone to see where they went is NOT instigating anything, and no one saw who physically assaulted who first.

Marissa went and got a gun, and came back into the house to CONFRONT her husband. That is NOT SYG.

Wade wrote:

Guys, it's obvious that Contributions has his mind made up on the matter. He can't support his statements so he resorts to name calling and smoke and mirrors. Example: He states "stand your ground doesn't require you to retreat". Well, it doesn't allow you to return after you do retreat either.

Exactly!!

Armed Veteran wrote:

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And what is the evidence that Zimmerman instigated the confrontation? Following someone to see where they went is NOT instigating anything, and no one saw who physically assaulted who first.
Marissa went and got a gun, and came back into the house to CONFRONT her husband. That is NOT SYG.

Geeez Vet , your confusing the guy with facts !

Armed Veteran wrote:

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If her husband had followed her into the garage, and she shot and killed him to keep from getting beat on, then she may have a case. But she didn't do that did she? No. She went to the garage...retrieved a gun...went back into the house...and fired a "warning shot" through a wall which her kids were on the other side of. While I do believe the 20 years was to harsh, if she was truly in fear for her life, she never would have went back into the house in the first place. This was NOT a stand-your-ground case, and she is damn lucky she did not kill one of her kids.

You're shooting from the hip. According to the trial transcripts she found herself trapped in the garage and had to reenter the home. Also the baby daddy tried like crazy to recant everything he had said when he realized that Marissa was in really deep shyt.

The Alexander case was justice run amok, when viewing all the statements one has to wonder how in the hell that lady was arrested and charged in the first place.

Interesting that Rick Scott and Pam Bondi chose that particular states attorney and her team to take over the Zimmerman investigation.

BTW just heard that in Florida possession of a firearm by a felon has become a mandatory minimum sentence of 10 years. The judge no longer gets a vote. We're going to need some new prisons.

Where Is My America wrote:

<quoted text>The women in question violated Florida State law ; where as you cannot use a gun to gain leverage.

No one said she was innocent you stupid shit.

She got a TWENTY YEAR sentence for shooting a warning shot.

That's the controversy with that case moron.

Again you distort and deflect with logical fallacies. This is about NRA's double standards in not defending her but defending Zimmerman, her guilt was never in question.

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The 10-20-LIFE public information program continues. The Florida Department of Corrections, in conjunction with the Executive Office of the Governor, and the Florida Legislature continue to inform the public that Florida's tolerance for crime is over. Staff from the Department of Corrections has provided several community presentations on gun violence, and distributed materials about 10-20-LIFE.

In 1998, criminals in Florida used guns to commit 31,643 violent felonies, including 13,937 armed robberies. That year, the mandatory punishment for using a gun to commit a violent felony was only three years in prison. During his campaign for Governor in 1998, Jeb Bush proposed the toughest gun-crime law in the nation: 10-20-LIFE. Under 10-20-LIFE, a felon who used a gun to commit a crime like armed robbery would face at least 10 years in state prison.

The 1999 Florida Legislature passed sweeping legislation that provides for enhanced minimum mandatory prison terms for offenders who commit crimes with guns.

Mandates a minimum 10 year prison term for certain felonies, or attempted felonies in which the offender possesses a firearm or destructive device
Mandates a minimum 20 year prison term when the firearm is discharged
Mandates a minimum 25 years to LIFE if someone is injured or killed
Mandates a minimum 3 year prison term for possession of a firearm by a felon
Mandates that the minimum prison term is to be served consecutively to any other term of imprisonment imposed

The Department of Corrections provides printed materials, such as: Bumper Stickers; Vinyl Window Clings; Posters in English, and Spanish; and Brochures in English, Spanish, and Haitian Creole, to public and private schools, businesses, and other public areas for display.

The results under 10-20-LIFE are impressive. In only six years, from 1998-2004, 10-20-LIFE has helped drive down violent gun crime rates 30 percent statewide (see Firearm Involved Violent Crimes). During the 10-20-LIFE era, armed criminals robbed a total of 10,567 fewer people and killed a total 380 fewer than they would have if these crime numbers had remained at 1998 levels. These crime decreases occurred even as Florida's population increased over 2.5 million (16.8 percent) between 1998 and 2004. Punishing criminals who use guns is making our state safer.

In addition to the Governor's 10-20-LIFE initiative, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, working with local law enforcement agencies and prosecutors created innovative anti-crime strategies such as Operation T.H.U.G.S.,(Taking Hoodlums Using Guns Seriously.) T.H.U.G.S targets felons who have existing violent-crime warrants and have a history of violence. Anyone can call the Florida Department of Law Enforcement at 1-800-704-0231 toll free to report these dangerous criminals. Operation T.H.U.G.S has resulted in 540 arrests and paid substantial rewards, contributing to our lower crime rates.

Governor Bush and the Florida Legislature have worked together to adopt public-safety reforms such as 10-20-LIFE, the Three-Strike Violent Felony Offender Act, and the Habitual Juvenile Offender Accountability Act. In addition, the Governor and Legislature have invested in our state prisons to ensure that early release of prisoners is eliminated. Today, state prisoners serve over 85% of their sentences, compared with less than 50% in 1994. Tough-on-crime initiatives have successfully reversed the lenient and disastrous criminal-justice policies of the early 1990s in Florida that caused so much suffering.

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/oth/10-20-life/inde...

Where Is My America wrote:

<quoted text>Geeez Vet , your confusing the guy with facts !

Lmao. Too true!

Where Is My America wrote:

0-20-LIFE has helped to drive down...

Did you think citing a bunch of statistics totally irrelevant to the topic of NRA's double standards would somehow work?

Like I said before, her guilt was never in question. The topic of this thread is NRA's clear double standards in defending Zimmerman but not Marissa.

No matter how much you try to distort or deflect it will not change this fact.

Contributions wrote:

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Did you think citing a bunch of statistics totally irrelevant to the topic of NRA's double standards would somehow work?
Like I said before, her guilt was never in question. The topic of this thread is NRA's clear double standards in defending Zimmerman but not Marissa.
No matter how much you try to distort or deflect it will not change this fact.

The NRA or any other group should not defend a guilty person.

RuffnReddy wrote:

<quoted text>You're shooting from the hip. According to the trial transcripts she found herself trapped in the garage and had to reenter the home. Also the baby daddy tried like crazy to recant everything he had said when he realized that Marissa was in really deep shyt.
The Alexander case was justice run amok, when viewing all the statements one has to wonder how in the hell that lady was arrested and charged in the first place.
Interesting that Rick Scott and Pam Bondi chose that particular states attorney and her team to take over the Zimmerman investigation.
BTW just heard that in Florida possession of a firearm by a felon has become a mandatory minimum sentence of 10 years. The judge no longer gets a vote. We're going to need some new prisons.

Trapped in the garage??? Give me a break. Was the door boarded up or something? If she was truly afraid for her life, she never would have went back into the house. Period.

Where Is My America wrote:

<quoted text>Geeez Vet , your confusing the guy with facts !

That's why I am here.

Where Is My America wrote:

<quoted text>Your not doing Sh!T for me or our great country.

We agree that you fail to remember what you posted.

Where Is My America wrote:

0-20-LIFE has helped to drive down Florida's violent-gun crime rates by 30%. The state's 2004, "Index Crime" rate is now the lowest in 34 years, and the violent crime rate is the lowest in a quarter century.
The 10-20-LIFE public information program continues. The Florida Department of Corrections, in conjunction with the Executive Office of the Governor, and the Florida Legislature continue to inform the public that Florida's tolerance for crime is over. Staff from the Department of Corrections has provided several community presentations on gun violence, and distributed materials about 10-20-LIFE.
In 1998, criminals in Florida used guns to commit 31,643 violent felonies, including 13,937 armed robberies. That year, the mandatory punishment for using a gun to commit a violent felony was only three years in prison. During his campaign for Governor in 1998, Jeb Bush proposed the toughest gun-crime law in the nation: 10-20-LIFE. Under 10-20-LIFE, a felon who used a gun to commit a crime like armed robbery would face at least 10 years in state prison.
The 1999 Florida Legislature passed sweeping legislation that provides for enhanced minimum mandatory prison terms for offenders who commit crimes with guns.
Mandates a minimum 10 year prison term for certain felonies, or attempted felonies in which the offender possesses a firearm or destructive device
Mandates a minimum 20 year prison term when the firearm is discharged
Mandates a minimum 25 years to LIFE if someone is injured or killed
Mandates a minimum 3 year prison term for possession of a firearm by a felon
Mandates that the minimum prison term is to be served consecutively to any other term of imprisonment imposed
The Department of Corrections provides printed materials, such as: Bumper Stickers; Vinyl Window Clings; Posters in English, and Spanish; and Brochures in English, Spanish, and Haitian Creole, to public and private schools, businesses, and other public areas for display.
The results under 10-20-LIFE are impressive. In only six years, from 1998-2004, 10-20-LIFE has helped drive down violent gun crime rates 30 percent statewide (see Firearm Involved Violent Crimes). During the 10-20-LIFE era, armed criminals robbed a total of 10,567 fewer people and killed a total 380 fewer than they would have if these crime numbers had remained at 1998 levels. These crime decreases occurred even as Florida's population increased over 2.5 million (16.8 percent) between 1998 and 2004. Punishing criminals who use guns is making our state safer.
In addition to the Governor's 10-20-LIFE initiative, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, working with local law enforcement agencies and prosecutors created innovative anti-crime strategies such as Operation T.H.U.G.S.,(Taking Hoodlums Using Guns Seriously.) T.H.U.G.S targets felons who have existing violent-crime warrants and have a history of violence. Anyone can call the Florida Department of Law Enforcement at 1-800-704-0231 toll free to report these dangerous criminals. Operation T.H.U.G.S has resulted in 540 arrests and paid substantial rewards, contributing to our lower crime rates.
Governor Bush and the Florida Legislature have worked together to adopt public-safety reforms such as 10-20-LIFE, the Three-Strike Violent Felony Offender Act, and the Habitual Juvenile Offender Accountability Act. In addition, the Governor and Legislature have invested in our state prisons to ensure that early release of prisoners is eliminated. Today, state prisoners serve over 85% of their sentences, compared with less than 50% in 1994. Tough-on-crime initiatives have successfully reversed the lenient and disastrous criminal-justice policies of the early 1990s in Florida that caused so much suffering.
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/oth/10-20-life/inde...

You can't prove causality this way dummy.

Armed Veteran wrote:

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Trapped in the garage??? Give me a break. Was the door boarded up or something? If she was truly afraid for her life, she never would have went back into the house. Period.

Read the trial transcripts dumbazz, winging it won't work on a national forum OK?