Brave men don't need guns

Do brave men also shun fire extinguishers and insurance? What a crock of crap spewed here. Making guns against the law only makes criminals stronger because they don't follow laws to begin with.

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A key sentence from the Cullen report on the 1996 massacre of 16 schoolchildren in Dunblane, Scotland, would seem to confirm this: "Homicide rates tend to be related to arms ownership. Everything else being equal, a reduction in the percentage of householders owning firearms should occasion a drop in the homicide rates."

Is this logically correct? Yes. Will it change how most people think about this subject? Probably not.
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Well, as the old Chinese saying goes: "Lies travel around the world many times before has a chance to put her boots on."
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Any keen observer of matters, will understand that the essence of the above excerpt: HYPE.
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In point of fact, the Cullen report was replete with omissions, and misstatements of fact.
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Further a critical evaluation of history since that time reveals just the opposite of the conclusions stated: Violent crime has increased dreadfully in the U.K. since the gun ban was instituted. In fact, Scotland has the highest incidence of violent crime.
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If the conclusions were to have even shred of truth to them, then the U.S. would be running bloody rivers daily. But such is not the case. In fact, it is ~only~ those places in the U.S. which severely restrict firearms possession that have a correspondingly higher crime rate than the surrounding communities and states.
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So, in conclusion, the author of the article is guilty of writing a tissue of lies, and deceits.
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Finally, one may always understand that the antis —when writing about guns— will always attack the object, rather than the evil doer. That's an illogical act, inasmuch as inanimate objects are blameless. The writers are essentially filled with hatred, and a desire to vent that against objects rather than people, because objects have no voice, make easy targets, and can't sue for malicious slander.

The author is described thus: "Samuel Hazo is McAnulty Distinguished Professor of English emeritus at Duquesne University...." So we are treated to eminently well-written crap instead of just "plain" crap.

The possession of arms as a sign of freedom reaches back to the beginnings of history, not just to "the frontier." Under ancient Greek, Roman, and Anglo-Saxon law, the ceremony of freeing a slave included placing a weapon in his hands "as a symbol of his new rank." The innate right of a free person to defend oneself and other innocents is irrefutable. Many people are "brave" but lack the ability to resist their aggressor(s). Can the possession and use of a knife, a baseball bat, a firearm, help alleviate this disparity? Of course! If time permits, upon whom do we call for help in times of bodily threat? Men and women who have agreed to become enforcers of our laws. If the threat is to our nation's freedom, we turn to our military. Why? Because these people are ARMED. However, there is not always the time to await response. The adage, "When seconds count, the police are just minutes away" has a ring of truth. Those storekeepers and farmers at Concord and Lexington could not call on a non-existent army to resist British efforts to (what else?) seize their arms!

There is a question I like to ask the "anti-gun" proponents: "What kind of society do you have planned for me that requires disarming me?"

We already have way too many over educated politically correct idiots that look down their noses at outspoken people that say what they think without trying to posture some pompus aire... I can't stand these government educated anal retentive academics that think capitalism is the bain of civilization. They gang up and go live in Venezuela... If they want my gun they can

A less poetic rationale would be that guns convey a sense of power (the equalizer factor). Then there is the belief that guns can alleviate fear. Really? How often can a gun protect someone from a drive-by shooting, an armed robber, a sudden marauding rampage similar to one that wounded Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and killed six others, a mugging or assassination?

Several years ago a jewelry store owner was murdered here in town during a robbery (made national headlines as the murderers mother drove the getaway car). There were police helicopters flying overhead and my senior citizen mother was terrified a murderer was going to break in to the house. I was basically in a WTF mode? I had a loaded rifle and if someone broke in at that point, he would have been toast. I have neighbors who worry that they may be crime victims. I myself sleep relatively soundly at night knowing at the very least I can put up some resistance to an armed intruder.

Zzznorch wrote:

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Several years ago a jewelry store owner was murdered here in town during a robbery (made national headlines as the murderers mother drove the getaway car). There were police helicopters flying overhead and my senior citizen mother was terrified a murderer was going to break in to the house. I was basically in a WTF mode? I had a loaded rifle and if someone broke in at that point, he would have been toast. I have neighbors who worry that they may be crime victims. I myself sleep relatively soundly at night knowing at the very least I can put up some resistance to an armed intruder.

I will defend my self, family, friends, & neighbors if need be. Any moron who doesn't support the 2nd Amendment should wear some ID so if I happen to have a chance to save their life; I can let them bleed out on the street!

The Gun Guy wrote:

The author is described thus: "Samuel Hazo is McAnulty Distinguished Professor of English emeritus at Duquesne University...." So we are treated to eminently well-written crap instead of just "plain" crap.
The possession of arms as a sign of freedom reaches back to the beginnings of history, not just to "the frontier." Under ancient Greek, Roman, and Anglo-Saxon law, the ceremony of freeing a slave included placing a weapon in his hands "as a symbol of his new rank." The innate right of a free person to defend oneself and other innocents is irrefutable. Many people are "brave" but lack the ability to resist their aggressor(s). Can the possession and use of a knife, a baseball bat, a firearm, help alleviate this disparity? Of course! If time permits, upon whom do we call for help in times of bodily threat? Men and women who have agreed to become enforcers of our laws. If the threat is to our nation's freedom, we turn to our military. Why? Because these people are ARMED. However, there is not always the time to await response. The adage, "When seconds count, the police are just minutes away" has a ring of truth. Those storekeepers and farmers at Concord and Lexington could not call on a non-existent army to resist British efforts to (what else?) seize their arms!
There is a question I like to ask the "anti-gun" proponents: "What kind of society do you have planned for me that requires disarming me?"

Very excellent points all around!
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Something additional: BOTH the U.S. Constitution and the respective State Constitutions are two things.
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The first thing being that they are a 'grant of power' to undertake matters which we the People can't directly manage on a daily basis. That 'grant of power' does ~not~ connote anything of the idea that we surrender our liberty in =any= way with those grants.
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The second thing is that because those Constitutions afford the ability of the respective governments to =ACT IN OUR STEAD=(a ~very~ import point here), then it follows that ~virtually every power~ allowed to be exercised by the respective 'official entities,' is ~also~ allowed to be exercised by the citizens themselves, save for those particular instances where the common law has determined otherwise in the best interests of the community at large.
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The entirety of my above set of statements is meant to impart just this: We, the People, retain the right to undertake our own ~effective and credible methods~ of self-defence. In NO place of the U.S. Constitution —regardless whatever State Constitution might say otherwise— are the People to be deprived of undertaking their own self-defence. In fact, the Second Article of Amendment prohibits any such thought, inasmuch as it was —and continued to be— the People themselves whom were required to enforce the laws of the land when the Sheriff of the County was not directly present.
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The advent of 'the police' per se, did not happen prior 1800. But even then, the citizens were still required to render assistance —as needed— to the Sheriff when called upon.
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So then, the ~only~ reason that either the Sheriff or the police have the authority to act 'in our stead,' is because WE THE PEOPLE said so. But, in doing such, we surrender ~nothing~ in that regard.
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This is so because, even though what the Sheriffs or police undertake on our behalf, they were given NO ABSOLUTE authority.
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And anyway, there is no legal way for any of the People to surrender their rights by whatever grant, inasmuch as NOBODY has any power to grant to any ~other~ person something that for which he himself does not in any way possess, i.e, no power or ability to grant. THINK: The power to grant ~also~ implies the power to deny.

To paraphrase a line in one of the funniest movies of all time......... "Gaaa-Leee Perfesser Hazo!! You use yore tongue purrtier than a 20 dollar WHORE"

Having dealt with overeducated pompous liberal windbags for many years I can see how he got that way. There is a reason that colleges tend to be liberal bastions of stupidity while prisons are built in small town or rural areas with a very conservative population. Worked in both realms so I can see both sides. Both are institutions of learning but the education is useless in most cases because the message is lost in the imparting.

Have Seen It Before wrote:

To paraphrase a line in one of the funniest movies of all time......... "Gaaa-Leee Perfesser Hazo!! You use yore tongue purrtier than a 20 dollar WHORE"
Having dealt with overeducated pompous liberal windbags for many years I can see how he got that way. There is a reason that colleges tend to be liberal bastions of stupidity while prisons are built in small town or rural areas with a very conservative population. Worked in both realms so I can see both sides. Both are institutions of learning but the education is useless in most cases because the message is lost in the imparting.

So-called 'modern liberals' are, well,'self-inflating.'
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krackabich wrote:

We already have way too many over educated politically correct idiots that look down their noses at outspoken people that say what they think without trying to posture some pompus aire... I can't stand these government educated anal retentive academics that think capitalism is the bain of civilization. They gang up and go live in Venezuela... If they want my gun they can

"If they want my gun they can"

Can what...[my words] "try and take it."...if I followed the rest of your post accurately.

I think you summed up the opinion of these "over educated"..."over paid"..."frustrated control freaks"...very well. Good post.

Have Seen It Before wrote:

To paraphrase a line in one of the funniest movies of all time......... "Gaaa-Leee Perfesser Hazo!! You use yore tongue purrtier than a 20 dollar WHORE"
Having dealt with overeducated pompous liberal windbags for many years I can see how he got that way. There is a reason that colleges tend to be liberal bastions of stupidity while prisons are built in small town or rural areas with a very conservative population. Worked in both realms so I can see both sides. Both are institutions of learning but the education is useless in most cases because the message is lost in the imparting.

Ok...I'm sorry to show some ignorance here...that is a funny opening line...what movie...?

Marauder wrote:

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Ok...I'm sorry to show some ignorance here...that is a funny opening line...what movie...?

Blazing Saddles!! Slim Pickens telling Harvey Korman that line. Funniest movie of all time and it messed with everyone!!

Have Seen It Before wrote:

<quoted text>Blazing Saddles!! Slim Pickens telling Harvey Korman that line. Funniest movie of all time and it messed with everyone!!

Ah...ok...seen it...loved Mongo lighting his cigar...lol

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The SUFFOLK RESOLVES of 1774 told the inhabitants of the Mass. colony, to LEARN the ART of WAR and to show up under arms weekly for that purpose.
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The RESOLVES were adopted by the 1st Cont. Congress and is part of the law of this land.
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Marauder wrote:

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"If they want my gun they can"
Can what...[my words] "try and take it."...if I followed the rest of your post accurately.
I think you summed up the opinion of these "over educated"..."over paid"..."frustrated control freaks"...very well. Good post.

Sorry about that just as I was finishing my post some stole my gun... Not really I think the phone rang and I forgot to finish it...

If they want my gun they can try to take it (or them)!!!

An armed citizen is a free man,an unarmed one is a potential slave.

krackabich wrote:

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Sorry about that just as I was finishing my post some stole my gun... Not really I think the phone rang and I forgot to finish it...
If they want my gun they can try to take it (or them)!!!

Oh heck, I would have finished that statement in just this way, "If they want my gun, they can go to hell! Don't go past go, don't collect U$200. Go =STRAIGHT= TO HELL!!!"
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Zagnut13 wrote:

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The SUFFOLK RESOLVES of 1774 told the inhabitants of the Mass. colony, to LEARN the ART of WAR and to show up under arms weekly for that purpose.
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The RESOLVES were adopted by the 1st Cont. Congress and is part of the law of this land.
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Indeed! There really is ~no such thing~ as 'peace' whilst one is alive AND free.
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The way to stay free is to perpetually =prepare= for war.

Highlander wrote:

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Indeed! There really is ~no such thing~ as 'peace' whilst one is alive AND free.
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The way to stay free is to perpetually =prepare= for war.

The title of this thread has the words "brave men" in it.
Better leave now lady...

If you're on the internet and =High Lander= goes beep beep.
Just step aside or you might end up in a heap.
=High Lander=,=High Lander= runs on the net all day.
Even the coyote can't make him change his ways.

=High Lander=, the coyote's after you.
=High Lander=, if he catches you you're through.
=High Lander=, the coyote's after you.
=High Lander=, if he catches you you're through.

That coyote is really a crazy clown,
When will he learn he can never mow him down?
Poor little =High Lander=, never bothers anyone.
Just runnin' at the mouth' his idea of having fun.

-BEEP--BEEP- wrote:

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The title of this thread has the words "brave men" in it.
Better leave now lady...

And which one of those categoeries do you fit...?...oh, wait...neither one.