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Outdoor shooting range raises concerns

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The lead contamination issue is a red herring.

The new neighbors don't like the noise. Apparently no one told them the "sounds of the country" consist of more than birds chirping.

I also find it hard to believe the skeet loads used are going to travel onto the neighbor's property.
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HG Robinson wrote:
Nothing but a bunch of rednecks out back shooting their guns! Hopefully the Isle of 'White' County Board will step up, do the right thing, and put an end to this reckless behavior.
Guns have no place in civilized society.
were shooting clay targets, your people in the east end are shooting each other.

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Aug 7, 2008
 
Female Driver wrote:
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I calculated some numbers on my cellphone and to my shock, these people get about 500 tons of lead in their yard every year. That's an awful lot of lead. It must be harmful to their children and pets. And what if it seeps into the groundwater. Won't it make the wells go bad? I'm not sure I'd want all that lead in my yard.
Too bad >YOU< can't back-up >YOUR< remarks in court of law, the place that really counts.

No, instead you spew your effluvia here and about, hoping to attract the flies.

1 ton = 2000 lbs.

500 tons =(2000 x 500)=n 1,000,000 lbs.

I wonder just how much shot it would take to make a heaping mound that size ...?

Oh and wait: Did I remark on your HYPE?

From the American Heritage English Dictionary:
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hype 1 Slang
n.
1. Excessive publicity and the ensuing commotion: the hype surrounding the murder trial.
2. Exaggerated or extravagant claims made especially in advertising or promotional material: "It is pure hype, a gigantic PR job" (Saturday Review).
3. An advertising or promotional ploy: "Some restaurant owners in town are cooking up a $75,000 hype to promote New York as 'Restaurant City, U.S.A.'" (New York).
4. Something deliberately misleading; a deception: "[He] says that there isn't any energy crisis at all, that it's all a hype, to maintain outrageous profits for the oil companies" (Joel Oppenheimer).
tr.v. hyped, hyp·ing, hypes
To publicize or promote, especially by extravagant, inflated, or misleading claims: hyped the new book by sending its author on a promotional tour.
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Yep! That pretty much states >YOUR< case!
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Female Driver wrote:
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I calculated some numbers on my cellphone and to my shock, these people get about 500 tons of lead in their yard every year. That's an awful lot of lead. It must be harmful to their children and pets. And what if it seeps into the groundwater. Won't it make the wells go bad? I'm not sure I'd want all that lead in my yard.
Did you miss the part about birdshot diffusion? In other words, THERE'S NO LEAD BEING DUMPED IN THEIR YARDS FROM THE SHOOTERS.

Please, try speaking with somebody about this who shoots skeet. If you're lucky, they may even let you shoot at a few clays. You may even enjoy it.

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HG Robinson wrote:
Nothing but a bunch of rednecks out back shooting their guns! Hopefully the Isle of 'White' County Board will step up, do the right thing, and put an end to this reckless behavior.
Guns have no place in civilized society.
Neither does aggression.
Lets get rid of that as well, ban anyone?
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I wonder just how much shot it would take to make a heaping mound that size ...?
According to my calculations, with a lead density of 11,340 kg/m3, this works out to about 1,413 cubic feet, or a cube 11.2 feet per side. That's a helluva lot of lead!

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They're concerned about the lead contamination. If my neighbor spewed 102,656 pounds of lead onto my property every year, I would complain too.
I tell him thank you.

Lead is a good resale per pound.

Did you know that even spent primers can be collected and resold for recycle? I have a 5lb coffee can almost filled to the top and ready to be turned into cash.

I keep trying to figure out how to collect the lead out of the shooting range berms without destroying the berms.

The brass is a easy resale on the internet once tumbled and cleaned. You can pretty much find a buyer for any size as long as it is re loadable.
We just keep the ones we want to reload for our own guns.

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Aug 7, 2008
 
HG Robinson wrote:
Nothing but a bunch of rednecks out back shooting their guns! Hopefully the Isle of 'White' County Board will step up, do the right thing, and put an end to this reckless behavior.
Guns have no place in civilized society.
I have seen this guy on other posts...he has changed his nom de plum but the words are identical.

Beat it maggot!

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Female Driver wrote:
They're concerned about the lead contamination. If my neighbor spewed 102,656 pounds of lead onto my property every year, I would complain too.
Do you have a factual basis for this outlandish claim?

Please, can you provide the arithmetic to back this up?

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Corporate Clam wrote:
The lead contamination issue is a red herring.
The new neighbors don't like the noise. Apparently no one told them the "sounds of the country" consist of more than birds chirping.
I also find it hard to believe the skeet loads used are going to travel onto the neighbor's property.
I must respectfully disagree.

If you turn over a few rocks, if the journalists did the slightest amount of investigative work, they will find that well funded anti-gun groups are behind this effort. Just as they were in Florida; attempting to drive poorly financed Mom & Pop gun ranges out of business as a back door method to reduce gun ownership and harass the law abiding citizenry.

Florida passed laws to preempt this kind of disingenuous attack in 2007. As a result, our gun ranges have a layer of protection today.

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Aug 7, 2008
 
HG Robinson wrote:
Nothing but a bunch of rednecks out back shooting their guns! Hopefully the Isle of 'White' County Board will step up, do the right thing, and put an end to this reckless behavior.
Guns have no place in civilized society.
Civilized society is the result of some dead guys 200 years ago with guns in this Country.
As for your title, gun control seems racist, it mostly targeted at urban areas where minorities live.
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If you read the article, you will see that 5 guys shoot here. I happen to know the 2 they name in the article. They are business men (McMurran and Suttle) who could hardly shoot more than a couple hours a week. Frankly, I think the neighbors are opening a can of worms they don't want. The council will approve and there will be a lot more shooters out there.
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Aug 7, 2008
 
HG Robinson wrote:
Nothing but a bunch of rednecks out back shooting their guns! Hopefully the Isle of 'White' County Board will step up, do the right thing, and put an end to this reckless behavior.
Guns have no place in civilized society.
HG,
Rednecks don't shoot clay, but thanks for showing your ignorance once again. You need to clean up your own back yard and stay out of people's lives that are more successful than yours.
I'm sorry your life sucks. It's not my fault.
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Do you have a factual basis for this outlandish claim?
Please, can you provide the arithmetic to back this up?
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Exactly! Over 50 tons of lead a year is an outright, overly exaggerated, lie. It would take a 40,000 man Army division to produce that much lead in a year.
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Aug 7, 2008
 
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Qualtney - You need to stop being such a good neighbor to people like this. Just wait till the complainers need something, it will happen. Let them move back to where they came from. We shoot guns - hunt - fish - ride 4 wheelers in the country.
Amen! And we do not take kindly to city dwellers moving to the country and then attempting to change our way of life. Don't like the wild places, deer eating your shrubbery, neighbors shooting guns, people riding 4wheelers - GO BACK TO YOUR CONCRETE JUNGLES!
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Aug 7, 2008
 
HG Robinson wrote:
Nothing but a bunch of rednecks out back shooting their guns! Hopefully the Isle of 'White' County Board will step up, do the right thing, and put an end to this reckless behavior.
Guns have no place in civilized society.
The only reason we have a somewhat civilized society is because of our guns, & the guns of our patriots back to the beginning of our country.
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Aug 7, 2008
 
Female Driver wrote:
They're concerned about the lead contamination. If my neighbor spewed 102,656 pounds of lead onto my property every year, I would complain too.
Does any part of your brain realize how much lead shot it would take to create over 51 tons in a year? It would bankrupt any 100 shooters much less 5. You are a uncritical thinking maroon.

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Aug 7, 2008
 
HG Robinson wrote:
Nothing but a bunch of rednecks out back shooting their guns! Hopefully the Isle of 'White' County Board will step up, do the right thing, and put an end to this reckless behavior.
Guns have no place in civilized society.
At least the 'rednecks' are shooting clay pigeons and not one another like they do in your hood. They purchased their guns legally and didn't steal them and it is not their intent to kill someone because they feel 'disrespected' or over a drug deal gone bad. You are the poster child for a Reverse racist!

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Please do a little research. The lead is enert. Does not break down. Does not contaminate water. Lead ingested does affect living beings. Stomach acids and proteins will break it down and allow absorbtion. That is why the problem with geese and ducks, they eat it while feeding. Range lead no problem, brady bunch BS. Lead from firing primers can possible cause problem in small children, air borne, inhaled and absorbed. Adult, no problem, we have already lost our minds.

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HG Robinson wrote:
Nothing but a bunch of rednecks out back shooting their guns! Hopefully the Isle of 'White' County Board will step up, do the right thing, and put an end to this reckless behavior.
Guns have no place in civilized society.
Unless it is at one of your fabled community centers.
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