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Gun Safety Or Gun Control?

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john

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gods country wrote:
the aussie gun laws = prevention is better than cure
lock the guns up when not in use
Your country is not a world power and needed the US to stop the Japs from invading! FO
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Johnnie wrote:
Guns for the police and military only, per the "well-regulated militia" portion of the antiquated second amendment.
I bet when you have been busted for dope. You love the 4th and 5th amendments!
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gods country wrote:
the aussie gun laws = prevention is better than cure
lock the guns up when not in use
MY decision, NOT the governments.
Marauder

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Johnnie wrote:
Guns for the police and military only, per the "well-regulated militia" portion of the antiquated second amendment.
"Little" Johnnie...you need to get back to school...get an education.
Marauder

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Simon Jester wrote:
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Johnnie - you are a member of the militia. Learn to read, dummy.
Not if he's in mommies basement and 8 years old.
Marauder

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Armed Veteran wrote:
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By that logic, since I am licensed to carry concealed in Virginia, I should be allowed to carry in the other 49. Right?
It's coming...the "Equal Protection Clause" will be recognized at some point. Just takes time like the D.C. Case and the Ninth Circuit Court decision.
Richard

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#49
May 6, 2009
 
Great, prohibition all over again. Where's Al Capone when we need him?
gods country

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Marauder wrote:
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MY decision, NOT the governments.
no, its the communities decision that you live in, it isnt yours alone
if you werent part of a community on your own little island, then you can do what you want to
rosco

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May 6, 2009
 
We the people wrote:
HOUSE BILL NO. 246
INTRODUCED BY J. BONIEK, BENNETT, BUTCHER, CURTISS, RANDALL, WARBURTON
AN ACT EXEMPTING FROM FEDERAL REGULATION UNDER THE COMMERCE CLAUSE OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES A FIREARM, A FIREARM ACCESSORY, OR AMMUNITION MANUFACTURED AND RETAINED IN MONTANA; AND PROVIDING AN APPLICABILITY DATE.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF MONTANA:
Section 1. Short title.[Sections 1 through 6] may be cited as the "Montana Firearms Freedom Act".
Section 2. Legislative declarations of authority. The legislature declares that the authority for [sections 1 through 6] is the following:
(1) The 10th amendment to the United States constitution guarantees to the states and their people all powers not granted to the federal government elsewhere in the constitution and reserves to the state and people of Montana certain powers as they were understood at the time that Montana was admitted to statehood in 1889. The guaranty of those powers is a matter of contract between the state and people of Montana and the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.
(2) The ninth amendment to the United States constitution guarantees to the people rights not granted in the constitution and reserves to the people of Montana certain rights, as they were understood at the time that Montana was admitted to statehood in 1889. The guaranty of those rights is a matter of contract between the state and people of Montana and the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.
commerce is vested in the states under the 9th and 10th amendments to the United States constitution,has not expressly preempted state regulation of intrastate commerce pertaining to the manufacture on an intrastate basis of firearms, firearms accessories, and ammunition.
(4) The second amendment to the United States constitution reserves to the people the right to keep and bear arms as that right was understood at the time that Montana was admitted to statehood in 1889, and the guaranty of the right is a matter of contract between the state and people of Montana and the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.(5) Article II, section 12, of the Montana constitution clearly secures to Montana citizens, and prohibits government interference with, the right of individual Montana citizens to keep and bear arms. This constitutional protection is unchanged from the 1889 Montana constitution, which was approved by congress and the people of Montana, and the right exists, as it was understood at the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.
Section 3. Definitions. As used in [sections 1 through 6], the following definitions apply:
(1) "Borders of Montana" means the boundaries of Montana described in Article I, section 1, of the 1889 Montana constitution.

(3) "Generic and insignificant parts" includes but is not limited to springs, screws, nuts, and pins.
(4) "Manufactured" means that a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition has been created from basic materials for functional usefulness, including but not limited to forging, casting, machining, or other processes for working materials.
Federal law says no. Therefore the U.S. Marshals can arrest you for these. At least this will get more gun folks into jail and the loss of their firearm rights under federal law. Bravo!
Richard

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#52
May 6, 2009
 
The solution is for state government to form its own milita, separate from the national guard, with their weapons designated as state milita weapons. Then also it could have weapons which private citizens are not presently allowed to have. Thermobaric bombs, for example.
Middle-o-the-str ea m

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our Stasi government will push more gun regulations on us than we have ever had in the past. We must fight every one of these new infringments. It will be state by state and federal. We are now in a Staci dictatorship, trust no liberal, or politician.
Middle-o-the-str ea m

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The obama milita will have the most modern weopons for their Stasi Army.

“Insults are not counter points”

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May 6, 2009
 
rosco wrote:
<quoted text> Federal law says no. Therefore the U.S. Marshals can arrest you for these. At least this will get more gun folks into jail and the loss of their firearm rights under federal law. Bravo!
Have you ever even READ the Constitution? Do you even know what the Articles being referred to here say? Apparently not, because if you had you'd know that Montana is perfectly within their rights to do so and how ignorant the comment you made about the "U.S. Marshalls" really is.

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May 6, 2009
 
gods country wrote:
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no, its the communities decision that you live in, it isnt yours alone
if you werent part of a community on your own little island, then you can do what you want to
Thanks for reminding us how retarded you are. You commoners may enjoy not having individual liberty but we sure as hell do.
anti-zionist

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#57
May 6, 2009
 
Every damn cop in America is trained by the ADL/SPLC to be on the lookout not for mexican or black gangbangers, but "racist" white "extremists".

A racist white extremist is anyone who does not want black or mexican murder, drug-dealing, or rape in their area.

The cops are not your friend. The "justice" system is not your friend. Blacks or mexicans who murder white people are sentenced to 7 years in prison or less, rape is just probation, in their "justice" system. And if you the victim, call one of these murderous apes a "racial slur" while being raped or devowered you are going to jail, and LeRoi or Ese was the "victim".
Michael Ejercito

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May 6, 2009
 
anti-zionist wrote:
Every damn cop in America is trained by the ADL/SPLC to be on the lookout not for mexican or black gangbangers, but "racist" white "extremists".
A racist white extremist is anyone who does not want black or mexican murder, drug-dealing, or rape in their area.
The cops are not your friend. The "justice" system is not your friend. Blacks or mexicans who murder white people are sentenced to 7 years in prison or less, rape is just probation, in their "justice" system. And if you the victim, call one of these murderous apes a "racial slur" while being raped or devowered you are going to jail, and LeRoi or Ese was the "victim".
Name one person convicted of FORCIBLE rape who was sentenced to probation.

As I recall, some person in South Carolina was sentenced to FOUR HUNDRED TWENTY-ONE years for kidnapping and rape.
gods country

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Here's an extraordinary paradox: All of the perverted humanity-haters who shouldn't be allowed to spawn a society in which those with the most deviant lifestyle, nit-picky behavior, or personal failures are given the most by the government invariably want to. Highlander is doing everything in his power to make me cower before the emotions and accusations of others. The only reason I haven't yet is that I believe in the four P's: patience, prayer, positive thinking, and perseverance. Given a choice of having him stir up one part of the population against another or having my bicuspids extracted sans Novocaine, I would embrace the pliers, purchase some Polident Partials, and call it a day

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gods country wrote:
the aussie gun laws = prevention is better than cure
lock the guns up when not in use
“Tighter gun control laws were not framed with the specific expectation that gun related deaths would decline.”- Anne Standford, press secretary for Police Minister Bill McGrath, in The Geelong Advertiser, 11/9/97

“This proposal will never prevent criminals from possessing firearms and we never said it would.”- Daryl Smeaton, Attorney General's department, Director of Law Enforcement Co-ordination, on the new Australian gun bans, in The Weekend Australian, 20-21 September 1997, page 6

All said AFTER they passed it. What they said BEFORE was different.

Some prevention.

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May 6, 2009
 
rosco wrote:
<quoted text> Federal law says no. Therefore the U.S. Marshals can arrest you for these. At least this will get more gun folks into jail and the loss of their firearm rights under federal law. Bravo!
I guess that explains all the people arrested for breaking federal drug laws in CA... since the state allows buying some controlled substances in stores...

Think about it.

CA started it.

And that IS how it should be - you can find it in the federal Constitution.

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May 6, 2009
 
gods country wrote:
the aussie gun laws = prevention is better than cure
lock the guns up when not in use
SHUT THE F*#K UP! Will YA
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